art of breaking the rules

[blion72]

PSU is a very clean team - which is admirable. many of our opponents systems however depend on rule breaking as they have less character.

watch MSU on offense yesterday. we rush 6-7 players in blitzes (sometimes coming from another solar system), and yet we cannot get to the QB against a very "young" OL. at times almost no pressure with all these rushers. our DBs many times are playing tight but clean. that is they are not holding or PI = even when they get called. example = Haley got a PI in the end zone with virtually no contact and if anything it was PI by MSU WR. on replay the announcers called it some fighting and were silent on whose fault it was.

watch PSU on offense. when MSU would bring extra pressure, they were getting to TM - even if he escaped to the LOS. the MSU players were holding routinely. they did not appear to be good enough to actually stay with PSU WRs so they just hold. great example on JJ in the end zone - pocket hold was not called....Thompkins pulled down and MSU intercepts.....on that play the announcer said there was "a little tug". WTF - there is no such thing as a "little tug" = he needs to read the rules. anything that involves impeding the WR to the ball is either PI or holding depending on the situation. when this is not called it is a great equalizer. MSU and UM are two of the biggest cheaters in this area, but others doing similar play.

PSU is a much cleaner team (even though we still get called for things). this does impact results.

 

[Westcoast24]

PSU is a very clean team - which is admirable. many of our opponents systems however depend on rule breaking as they have less character.

watch MSU on offense yesterday. we rush 6-7 players in blitzes (sometimes coming from another solar system), and yet we cannot get to the QB against a very "young" OL. at times almost no pressure with all these rushers. our DBs many times are playing tight but clean. that is they are not holding or PI = even when they get called. example = Haley got a PI in the end zone with virtually no contact and if anything it was PI by MSU WR. on replay the announcers called it some fighting and were silent on whose fault it was.

watch PSU on offense. when MSU would bring extra pressure, they were getting to TM - even if he escaped to the LOS. the MSU players were holding routinely. they did not appear to be good enough to actually stay with PSU WRs so they just hold. great example on JJ in the end zone - pocket hold was not called....Thompkins pulled down and MSU intercepts.....on that play the announcer said there was "a little tug". WTF - there is no such thing as a "little tug" = he needs to read the rules. anything that involves impeding the WR to the ball is either PI or holding depending on the situation. when this is not called it is a great equalizer. MSU and UM are two of the biggest cheaters in this area, but others doing similar play.

PSU is a much cleaner team (even though we still get called for things). this does impact results.

Holding can be called on basically every single play. That includes on PSU OL as well. It's the way it is in every game you watch over the weekend.

 

[blion72]

Holding can be called on basically every single play. That includes on PSU OL as well. It's the way it is in every game you watch over the weekend.

agree, but my point is that PSU is not pushing the limits like some of the opponents do. the jersey grabbing by DBs just is not going on by PSU to the degree that our WRs are getting held. same for OL = our guys dont hold to the same degree.

if the refs were like machines and called zero tolerance games it would be interesting.

 

[LurkerLazarus]

Football is a big-boy game. The rules must be adhered to, but players should get as close to the line of rule-breaking as possible, without going over it. And it's also true, that if a flag isn't thrown, then it isn't a penalty. Period.

 

[PSU.:.]

The grabbing and holding from the MSU dB was on different level then I ever seen yesterday. I was very pissed to see PSU getting called for basically nothing and then seeing MSU mugging the hell out of our wrs.

 

[blion72]

Football is a big-boy game. The rules must be adhered to, but players should get as close to the line of rule-breaking as possible, without going over it. And it's also true, that if a flag isn't thrown, then it isn't a penalty. Period.

i am just suggesting that PSU does not do that to the same degree as many of our opponents.

what do you think of a coach who teaches his OL or DBs the techniques to hold without being caught? if PSU coaches are doing that, it is not obvious as we are not doing a very good job of holding.