Bring on Oregon
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Not really garbage time--that was a huge pick that prevented USC from tying the game
I hate ND more than you all hate me but that wasn't a garbage TD
It wasn't garbage time ... USC was just outside the red zone threatening for the tying score.
Totally did.
As bad as it had to be for CJF after OSU, what Day is looking at will be much worse.
I was more than happy with getting a home playoff. Now I’m psyched for next week!
I think that's what it was......and it probably wasn't a good idea, but we do have our second string in. Not fair to not let them play with the full playbook.
You are pissed. Tough luck. Successful season. Playoff bound.Oregon has to fly east so I'm sure some think we're a lock to win
Why am I pissed?
We did what we all expected. I'm literally making fun of those that think travel prevents a team from winning with no data to support that.
My biggest concern is the seeding if we lose next week. You have 1 loss ND and 2 loss OSU who has a head-to-head win over us sitting there. The committee could move both of them over us, which means that making the CCG could cost us a valuable #6 seed. Seeds 5 & 6 are much more valuable than 7 & 8. I have no faith in the committee to do the right thing for teams that have to play an extra game, let alone against the #1 ranked team. Had OSU won today we'd have been a lock for #6 seed and in a great position with no worries about the suits in a conference room that make it up as they go and change their criteria week to week.
Ohio State won't be over us--not with that Michigan loss at home. ND is a valid concern.
Oregon would have to beat us by like 40 for it to really impact us.
No guarantee we would have been a #6 seed…I could have seen them drop us behind ND so we wouldn’t play Indiana.
I hope you're right but think you're giving the committee too much credit and discounting the power of the OSU name. We don't have any bad losses but the lack of big time wins could be a problem, and head-to-head likely comes into play when comparing teams with equal records. Regardless, my main point is the way today unfolded has gone from a pretty certain path for us to the unknown and less predictable, unless we beat Oregon. The format is flawed and I expect it will be changed very quickly. I personally wasn't real thrilled with UM winning and getting into the CCG and that doesn't make a lick of sense, we should all be thrilled with the opportunity but the playoff format takes that away.
For those that believe they'll try to avoid conference matchups, if that's true then ND definitely will be ahead of us tomorrow because it gives them the most flexibility with the CCGs
Folks that would rather not play for a conference championship and 1st round bye are wusses.
I don't think I am honestly. My debate is whether or not they're 6 or 7. I don't think they fall far at all.
Remember though--we won't have "equal records" as we'd be 11-2 vs 10-2
I agree with you--life would have been easier had Ohio State just taken care of business but Days wants to be fired apparently
True, but the committee has had 1 loss PSU ahead of 1 loss ND all along, and ND has a horrible loss on their resume. We have a strong case to be ahead of them. We have a less strong case to be ahead of OSU as they would have the same record and beat us on the field, at home. The biggest case for us in that scenario is that we had to play an extra game, and OSU would have a loss to a mediocre UM team. But I could easily see the committee weighing head-to-head more than the quality of the losses we'd each have.
Or they're strategic and understand how this works
We're not playing--we're fans. Players should want to play--we should want the easiest path
Also the home game factor. Maybe the next iteration of the format should also give the top 4 seeds a game at home as it's a financial boon for small college towns like PSU and huge for the fans to see a game of that scale without having to fly to a bowl destination. I'd have much more interest in attending a home playoff game vs. one in a bowl venue and the top 4 teams don't get that opportunity.
We could still could have been below 6 in that case with a Texas loss in the CCG and/or possibly Notre Dame passing us.
And now it could be CCG, then home playoff game then neutral site playoff game then another neutral playoff game then a neutral site title game. It's too much. Just play at the higher seed.
I’m hoping that they go with USCe over Bama if it comes down to it. The Cocks deserve it based on what they’ve done on the field.
Knew someone would bring this up. OSU only had 1 loss in 2016 while we had 2. Different scenario.
It will be interesting between the two because
Bama has better wins
USCe has better losses plus still have good wins (A&M and Clemson)
Bama beat USCe H2H
I think they go Bama--ideally both get in but I don't see how now unless they just boot Indiana
Well, since they didn’t count the conference championship game in ‘16, then we have one loss and OSU has two this year…OSU made it in ‘16 because they had one fewer loss and this year we have one fewer loss, so we should be ranked higher.
They counted the CCG then and will this year
But we're safely ahead of OSU unless we get embarrassed
Different scenario because now Ohio State has two losses and we only have one despite our loss being to them?
Isn’t it exactly the same? Only reversed?
The one difference is that one of their losses was "a good loss"
We had two really, really bad losses
But, they aren't going to be ahead of us. Not sure why this is even a concern
We will definitely be ranked above tOSU in this week’s ranking. But the relevant discussion is how would a 11-2 PSU rank vs a 10-2 tOSU. I actually think we stay above the Buckeyes but I can see the H2H argument rearing its head.
