Clarifications from 1st time poster and UM fan
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We can’t overplay the sanctions...the damage they did was way deeper than most posters would ever grasp. They don’t just magically disappear the year they’re pulled. Not to mention the damage to the brand caused by the scandal and the sanctions.
You know the answer to your own question....that’s why we talk about the effect of the sanctions. As far as your QB’s, you’d still have no QB’s if it weren’t for transfers and that should cause Michigan fans concern.
Partly michigan's fault for their "relationship" with the referees when they tossed one of our linebackers for going for an interception.
So, help me understand.
Michigan would have won the conference championship if they had lost fewer conference games.
Wow, thanks, I never would have worked that out on my own.
You, brunetti and jimjim47 sure make UM fans look stupid.
Thank god for Anison......
I got it. Your trolling.
We were coming off sanctions that were later withdrawn. You may have read about it.
Nope. McCaffrey (#5 pro style QB of 2017) could have started this year. Some think he has more upside than Patterson.
Right.Nope. McCaffrey (#5 pro style QB of 2017) could have started this year. Some think he has more upside than Patterson.
Keep blaming others for all your problems. It is the mark of winners.
What problems. Michigan has only 4 big championships since 1993? 25 years! That is pathetic for such an awesome arrogant program.
4 Big Ten Championships in 25 years is not great. But it is the same as Penn State.
We’ve only been in the conference for 25 years. And it took precisely 2 to go undefeated and take the trophy.
Your continued yapping just furthers the stereotype of annoying Michigan fans (Anison excluded). Just shut up already and salvage a shred of dignity while you still can.
No, hoisting the Big Ten Championship trophy is
4/25 years = 4/25 years.
If you didn't make dumb arguments you wouldn't have to read "annoying" corrections.
Exactly. So your not so great and awesome after all. Hmmmm.
Heck we even had 7 years of sanctions that effected us and we are still tied. Wow. What the hell is Michigan’s excuse other than it cannot beat osu.
Making up fake numbers is not a great way to be taken seriously. The actual numbers are readily available.
That is one point in Franklin's favor. Franklin's winning percentage is a point in Harbaugh's favor.
Yep you had the one streak. Refs gave you two but it is in the books.
But I thought Michigan was so awesome. At least that is how they conduct themselves.
Their are stats like psu is the best in the last 50 years and Michigan number one overall.
Psu has a very good bowl record and Michigan bowl record is absolutely awful.
So the point is the season still has to play out and you have way more returning starters than we do this year so what will be both teams record. You lose a lot of good players this year and if you don’t win out, which you do control your own destiny at this point. Or will you choke again. It will be interesting to say the least.
Refs gave Ohio State the game in 2016. But I am not going to build a conspiracy theory around that.
Yes, Penn State does have an excellent bowl record while Michigan's is .456. You are ahead on that score.
Yes, our defense will lose a lot of good players next season. Just like they did last year. I am not worried about reloading under Don Brown.
Good point. Brown did a great job shutting Penn State down last year with a less experienced defense.
https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2015/05/penn_state_football_examining_1.html
Keep in mind also, that not only were we short of the 85 limit going into 2015, part of that number of scholarship players were either true freshmen, or former walk on players that were awarded scholarships. We were particularly thin at linebacker and offensive line. Anyone who thinks the sanctions did not affect PSU are not basing there opinion in reality. It is actually amazing we did not have a season worse than 7-5.
Talking with some buckeyes this am at the kitchen table and it will be interesting how the season plays out. Both psu and psu offense are in a funk and need to snap out of it.
Will psu return to is rpo self or played scared again against an aggressive defense. We did face a damn good dline last week so that will help. Will rahne take advantage of Michigan aggressive nature or will he play like he did against MSU and not exploit what the defense is giving him.
We will see. If psu offense plays well then we will win. It is simple as that. Our young defense has grown and each week keeps playing better so I’m not concerned there. Can our offense move the chains and score.
Will psu return to is rpo self or played scared again against an aggressive defense. We did face a damn good dline last week so that will help. Will rahne take advantage of Michigan aggressive nature or will he play like he did against MSU and not exploit what the defense is giving him.
We will see. If psu offense plays well then we will win. It is simple as that. Our young defense has grown and each week keeps playing better so I’m not concerned there. Can our offense move the chains and score.
You say the cupboard was also bare when Harbaugh took over for Hoke. Michigan had how many players drafted last year? And who recruited those players?
Penn State has had more recent success than Michigan by any measurable imaginable. It may be your year, I will give you that but to come here and act like you have been the more successful program is a joke. Last two years PSU has a B10 championship and a Fiesta bowl win UM has nothing. Also, we have beat OSU more over the last 15 years and have actually won the B10 more. UM's arrogance is completely unfounded, again this may be your year but until this point there is no question who the superior program on the field has been.
Most of these guys think that PSU is on par with Alabama, so take your replies with that grain of salt.
Imaginable measurable: 2018.
Imaginable measurable: most recent NC.
Imaginable measurable: head to head current head coaches.
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Wow, talking about attendance again. Why didn't you also bring up our 30 years of self imposed sanctions because of the stupidity of our athletic department. I know what we are, but most of you think you are better than what you are and always have.
