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David Taylor to Oklahoma State & related news
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David Taylor is many things. An idiot is not one of them. Man understands the importance of culture.
Do they also get a pass for the other 10 times in the last 14 years?
Works both ways, the portal.
Plus, this is very much like the corporate world now. Taylor = success means more schools come calling for the next Taylor (Dake? Nolf? Askren?). Which means that coach then draws talent away from Taylor like Taylor might Cael.
Still think we’re discrediting Cael tremendously here. It’s not easy as install a legend and win all the time.
True, but talent isn't enough to catch PSU, it needs to be national finalist level talent. Some of those guys have transferred in recent years, but not many. Will he get enough of them to compete with PSU so quickly? We'll see.
Not ruling it out. Just don't think it's automatic.
Jax to OKST was already the expectation but I have to feel like it is all but a guarantee now it makes too much sense
If the truth could be known, I’ll bet Taylor talked to Cael before accepting the offer and Cael said go for it.
Why would he? He's at Iowa, where wrestlers go to become legends.
Sure. And I don’t think PSU is just going to suddenly fall off a cliff anything,
But almost every move like this in wrestling history has resulted in the hiring program becoming a juggernaut. See: Gable, Smith, Sanderson
The interesting thing for Taylor is that “his guys” currently on the PSU roster all have serious competition at their ideal weight. Kasak-SVN, Haines-MM, Ryder-Facundo. I don’t think any of them want to leave but there is a chance 1 or 2 of them decide to hit the portal after the 24-25 season and you have to think DT would be their first call
Ha Ha......Is this supposed to be a burn? Gee......Date female wrestlers in great physical shape. Count me in. Your burns are as bad as your logic......just as I had predicted
Ohio State is the school that should get a pass. They would've finished 2nd ahead of Cornell if Sasso hadn't gotten shot.
And unlike Iowa, their issue was not self-inflected.
MM-Haines has worked itself out for the most part.
No inside info here, but I think Levi is one who finishes out at Penn State then maybe ends up at the Cowboy RTC
Truth to that.
I just can’t believe that John Smith has been so bad since 2007 that you can go from him to anyone else on earth and immediately be anything close to a peer of Penn State.
If David Taylor’s value add over Smith is going to immediately being peers with Cael from finishing around 15 for a long time, hell we should fire Cael and hire Taylor.
I wouldn't be shocked if this sets a domino effect. Precedent is set now. If Iowa/Ohio State fall behind, I can see Burroughs/Dake getting calls.
By that theory, Iowa will again be a juggernaut when they hire Spencer.
That makes sense to me. I just think Levi is in a tough spot where he apparently wants to move up from 157 but MM is at 165 and I don’t buy the weight swap plan. I like the idea of redshirting to 174 for folk but long term you have to think Levi is a 74kg guy for Olympics. Also if he does go all the way up to 174 you have him, Facundo and Ryder all fighting for that spot
Word out of stillwater.
All current coaches gone. Expect Kennedy, molinaro. Dake and Gilman RTC coaches. Snyder possibly coming.
All current coaches gone. Expect Kennedy, molinaro. Dake and Gilman RTC coaches. Snyder possibly coming.
His problem will be, like Iowa and Ohio State has been, you could let Taylor pick the one he prefers of those 3 and he’s still at least 5-6 guys short.
Most incredible thing I ever read was last year, 2023, Iowa finished second. They could have brought in Yianni, Gable, and had Spencer win, and still would have finished second.
I don’t think you all are thinking through what kind of firepower it will take to “compete regularly” with what Cael has done.
He needs 8 scoring wrestlers.
Yep, David Taylor is the biggest coaching hire since Cael Sanderson. History says it would be shocking if he's not competing for titles in a few years.
From Okie St Twitter:
"Hearing David Taylor is already up 4-0 on the tornado"
"Too bad David Taylor didn’t get the OK State job last year,
he probably would’ve gotten Daton able to score."
"Hearing David Taylor is already up 4-0 on the tornado"
"Too bad David Taylor didn’t get the OK State job last year,
he probably would’ve gotten Daton able to score."
Here's another crazy hypothetical.
What if Zahid never pulls AB's singlet in the OTT semi ?? ... All of this is a dream.
Dake won’t be playing 2nd fiddle to DT. After the paycheck DT just banked, Dake will do the same somewhere else when he retires.
One thing that’s smart here, IMO, and that’s $$ thrown to a top coaching staff >> $$ thrown at fanboy NIL.
David Taylor is this generation of wrestler's John Smith. He's going to be able to recruit the guys that John couldn't and bring the OSU program into the 21st century. John was probably closer to TnT than Cael with respect to training philosophy.
Seriously, I don’t think Zahid would have beaten DT. Then DT would be training now for Paris. Would he have dropped everything to talk to OSU and would he have accepted, knowing it would be a distraction? Maybe M2 stands for Mice and Men with regards to the best laid plans! 🤔
Kasak and Van Ness intrigues me. Kasak could be someone Taylor would go after.
Plus he has to uproot his family and his farm.
Also. to the extent M2 is a negotiable asset, a good deal of its value derives from DT, so to the extent there's a buyer, they are buying a railroad without locomotives.
Money is a wonderful servant and a fearsome master.
J.O. raises his hand as well -
I'd love to be a fly on the wall on DT's cell phone calls tomorrow:
I'd love to be a fly on the wall on DT's cell phone calls tomorrow:
There is good and bad here.
Bad: I probably never see my dream of PSU with 10 champs.
Good: I have a number two team to give a shit about.
Bad: I am starting to feel bad for HR. A little.
Good: NCAA wrestling has just gotten more interesting.
Bad: I probably never see my dream of PSU with 10 champs.
Good: I have a number two team to give a shit about.
Bad: I am starting to feel bad for HR. A little.
Good: NCAA wrestling has just gotten more interesting.
I'd say Dake is the next big name to take a coaching position. And from what I hear Iowa's gonna be looking bc 1/2 of T&T is out.
Cue Hawk fans
This would not be the good. If this were to happen its not hard to see a steady flow of talent wanting to work with those guys just as it happened here. And the dynasty just took a big hit.
Who is this band and why are they stealing the Ozempic melody?
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