That's hilarious. Cael is surely sending several Hawk fans to an early grave - muttering his name as they face the dying of the lightYour comment has made me revisit my TODO list:
Don't shoot the messenger.
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LOLYour comment has made me revisit my TODO list:
2049 will probably work for most of us.
Its not Cael. Its the ice cream cones and cookies. And actually the light is getting brighter in Iowa City. Lots of positive energy right now.
Add hyperbole to the rumor to understand my point--Cael Sanderson is going to accept the head coaching position at Iowa, and the Brands are coming east to Penn State. For most news consumers, it's just as legit as the rumor of Suriano going to Rutgers because the only basis for each is that someone on the internet said so.
If anyone at Flo were to tweet, "Hearing a rumor Cael and the Brands are swapping head coaching seats. No idea whether it's legit," you can bet Aaron Pico's bank account that a huge debate and discussion will erupt over that topic. Is Flo exonerated because they weakly disclaimed that they had no idea whether it was legit? No, because by virtue of their insider status and trust in the industry, people are going to naturally think that where there's smoke there's fire, disclaimer notwithstanding. And this and other boards would understandably be pretty pissed off at Flo's carelessness in not simply determining the veracity before passing it alone.
So what is the difference then between my hypothetical, hyperbolic rumor and the Suriano rumor on some NJ message board (that I've still not seen linked to)? Plausibility? Is passing along the Suriano rumor more forgivable of Flo without testing its veracity (as they're uniquely situated to do) because multiple people on the NJ message board said so as opposed to here, where it was only me?
Now there is a difference between the two rumors--more people have access to the parties of my hypothetical and accordingly it would be shot down faster, which is why Flo would be more likely to adhere to common journalistic standards before it said anything about Cael and the Brands switching schools. But if you're going to cherry pick when and where you adhere to journalistic standards, you're going to be seen as less credible. In instances where Flo is far more likely to have more exclusive access to the parties, it's even more important to maintain those standards because people are naturally going to presume that fire follows whatever smoke Flo is advancing if they know less about the situation, disclaimers notwithstanding.
I'm in Santa Fe, and have in-laws in Denver and a daughter in Ft. Collins. My wife and I are considering Pagosa Springs/Durango as a retirement location (or maybe even pre-retirement), and comparing it with the Salida/Buena Vista area.
At least you're honest and deprioritized listening to g/f, 5 yrs delinquent (or is it????).Your comment has made me revisit my TODO list:
Your comment has made me revisit my TODO list:
You won the intranet for today. That was really funny, well done.
Great, we'll have "the best lightweight room in the country"!
It's not my place, nor my intention, to expect everyone (or anyone, for that matter) to feel the same as me. The world's an expansive, diverse place, with many points of view. Craziness and unreasonable positions aside, this thread is an example.
Still don't feel any differently. And that's ok.
Yeah, that's been overdue since the day we met. But I've got more important things on my plate as you can see - Spyker at the top of the list.
Not sure it will fit on the shelf. Not sure if you are aware I won a Sandusky Shut Up a few weeks ago and I'm expecting it to arrive any day now.
Hahaha......you have put in the work over there to get it. #embracethegrind
First: The number of things you don't know are true must equal exactly the number of things you don't know are true..
Second: "Everyone's reaction was predictable and foreseeable" Really? Predictable by whom? My reaction was: "For several months there have been unverified rumors coming from the Rutgers side that were referenced by Willie". "I hope they are not true but I will keep my eyes and ears open for some information that either corroborates or dispels said rumor.". That is how I chose to react. As the number of posts about the topic approaches 400 it is obvious that others chose to react differently. Willie is not a Jedi ( Despite the unverified rumors ).....which means we all have free will to write whatever we CHOOSE to write.
It's been noted before, but I just came across this. Outstanding.Your comment has made me revisit my TODO list:
Laughed out loud. Literally.
Me too, it is one of the funniest posts I've seen in some time. Strong work, Dice
Perhaps try rereading what I wrote paying extra attention from "yet nevertheless..." because your alleged correction strongly suggests you misread that sentence.
Funny how you lament the length of this thread yet created an account, sock or otherwise, to reply to it and only it.
Implying that I'm suggesting anyone should be deprived of the "free will to write whatever we CHOOSE," is a pretty ridiculous and disingenuous take on what my point is. As for the foreseeability and predictability of everyone's reaction, one only need to peruse this thread wherein plenty others besides myself viewed Willie's tweet as suggesting the Suriano to Rutgers rumor perhaps had more merit than it ultimately did.
Wow.....where to begin. Where in my post did I "Lament" the length of the post? I simply pointed out that many people replied and there was a wide variety of opinions and observations. Next.... How can you possibly read the words : "which means we all have free will to write whatever we CHOOSE to write." and think I am suggesting anyone's free will should be deprived. It would be ridiculous if I said that....but I LITERALLY said the exact opposite of what you are accusing me of saying. Who is misreading/ I misread your sentence?? It literally begins with the words "The number of things you don't know are true greatly outnumbers the number of things you don't know are true" How can one thing "greatly outnumber" the exact same thing? Now THAT is nonsensical. Adding "yet nevertheless" doesn't fix the complete incongruity of your statement.. Lastly I just joined because I enjoy wrestling. My first post happened to be on this thread. Sadly....it was yours. Had I known you would resort to misrepresenting pretty much everything I said.....I would not have responded. Won't make that mistake again. Enjoy your evening
hang in there Sportsfan! Sometimes folks lose perspective of this whole forum thing. Others think that the forum represents the entire fan base, while others are changing the world with their opinion. I still like it when people say 'my team' or 'we' and are so far away! The bottom line this is entertainment mixed in with some good nuggets about the sport and my favorite team.
I did not mean I wont post or comment again.....just that I will need to look at a person's previous comments and try to avoid the...."Willie should be fired because I don't know what an unsubstantiated rumor is and it caused me great consternation." types. Lesson learned
You're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
If a rumor about a Cael vs Brands trade hit the board, most reasonable fans would laugh it off. The Suriano rumor was about as ridiculous.
Willie probably would have been wise to sit on the sidelines, but he didn't ... big F'n deal. Aside from a few posters going overboard, and few bruised egos, no harm done.
Suriano is still in the room and Cael is still our coach ... all is good.
LOL at Rutgers again.
That's your opinion. In his position, Willie has to be ruled by some journalistic integrity, and he failed in this instance. Passing on rumors without any fact checking is lazy, especially when you allow the rumor mongering to fester for a week without any follow up. It is CP who puts the kibosh to the whole thing, and THEN we start seeing Willie post again. Just poor professionalism all around from Willie.
Journalists acknowledge rumors all the time. It is not "a lack of journalistic integrity" to literally post a tweet about something people are actually discussing and stating you have no inside knowledge to its truth. All he did was acknowledge that people were talking about it, he never said it would happen.
There is just no reason to fill a diaper over this.
For you and I to spread a rumor on message boards, I would agree with you. For someone in Willie's position to do it, it is unacceptable without a modicum of effort to understand the veracity of the rumor. You (and others) and I simply differ on what we deem important in a person holding the position Willie does. Apparently, Flo agrees with you.
Unfortunately this is the world we live in. Take baseball, with about a month until the trade deadline at the end of July, there will be numerous stories and reports from experts and insiders that player X is on the trading block or team Y is looking for help at a certain position or interested in Player Z...most of the reports are from unnamed sources, rumors or two "experts" trading their thoughts and most of the time they are crap. Makes for good listening or generates the clicks on the article.
Your last line is kind of funny since you did just that by responding.
Disclaimer up front in that I never gave this rumor any serious consideration as it made NO sense whatsoever for many reasons.
However, if Willie had spent 1 tenth of the time he spent defending his tweet here and used it to contact Suriano, Cael, etal to try and confirm or deny the rumor this thread might have been avoided. For some reason known only to him he not only did not do that he still has not done that. Why he has not is beyond me. In any case time to put this thread to bed.
Your last line is kind of funny since you did just that by responding.
Disclaimer up front in that I never gave this rumor any serious consideration as it made NO sense whatsoever for many reasons.
However, if Willie had spent 1 tenth of the time he spent defending his tweet here and used it to contact Suriano, Cael, etal to try and confirm or deny the rumor this thread might have been avoided. For some reason known only to him he not only did not do that he still has not done that. Why he has not is beyond me. In any case time to put this thread to bed.
Then congratulations on your full diaper too.
Unnamed sources is not a problem in journalism. It is how the job goes. A journalist can't reveal sources for obvious reasons.
The problem stems from people expecting every report to be right or people listening to the wrong reporter.
Actually, a lot baseball trade rumors "unnamed sources" are team execs planting seeds with pliant journalists. Sometimes it's floating a trial balloon. Sometimes it's putting pressure on other teams' execs. Etc. It's part of the game.
I don't think Willie was a pliant journalist in this case -- after all, he's not a journalist or so he says. He merely pointed at something that was already in the public domain (albeit in an obscure corner). The parallel would be the initial Rutgers facebook post -- if that was truly just something somebody heard, or if somebody MSU, or if it was a plant by a Rutgers insider.
Just my take, for what it is worth.
Willie posted the Nick to Rutgers rumor to stir the pot and see what kind of shyt he could get started. Which obviously was more than a little. Willie went fishing and had some fun.
Feigning innocence is somewhat disingenuous.
The folks who are besides themselves. Come on. Willie is a wrestling media personality. He talks about what is happening, or what is being talked about. He kicked the Lions den with information that was circulating through the wrestling community that was apparently missed by much of the Penn State wrestling community and he got plenty of reactive conversation.
Come Friday night, as noted in a different thread, the conversation becomes whose doorstep is Cael standing in front of at a second past midnight, or where will Cael celebrate the 4th?
It is all good.
Willie posted the Nick to Rutgers rumor to stir the pot and see what kind of shyt he could get started. Which obviously was more than a little. Willie went fishing and had some fun.
Feigning innocence is somewhat disingenuous.
The folks who are besides themselves. Come on. Willie is a wrestling media personality. He talks about what is happening, or what is being talked about. He kicked the Lions den with information that was circulating through the wrestling community that was apparently missed by much of the Penn State wrestling community and he got plenty of reactive conversation.
Come Friday night, as noted in a different thread, the conversation becomes whose doorstep is Cael standing in front of at a second past midnight, or where will Cael celebrate the 4th?
It is all good.
FRL talks about the Suriano rumors. . .
http://www.flowrestling.org/article/58268-frl-211-nick-suriano-rumor-mejia-to-iowa-and-the-best-157
http://www.flowrestling.org/article/58268-frl-211-nick-suriano-rumor-mejia-to-iowa-and-the-best-157
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This is the world we live in. Not happy with how this went down and not happy with Willie, but just playing devils advocate, should we hold Willie to a higher standard than the President (crazy tweets) or CNN (and all left wing media), whose apparent agenda is to take down that President for their own gain.
