Don't shoot the messenger.
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He's an extreme narcissist and seriously mentally imbalanced. I'd love for a real psychiatrist to break down his posting history.
I'm not premium - what kind of crazy crap was he doing on there?
Wngbargini is VERY close to Rutgers staff just posted 20 minutes ago he thinks 80% Rutgers gets Suriano. He is the main insider over there.
This is not good.
This is not good.
Couple questions:
How much and what type of contact is another school allowed to have with a Penn State student-athlete under scholarship?
Does Penn State have to give permission or give a release?
Does the student-athlete have to initiate?
Did the Cortez transfer from Illinois happen like this?
So why doesn't Nick just announce he is transferring? The negotiations with the NCAA not withstanding. Also, he is only 80% sure.
why doesn't he announce he's staying? when do the kids have to be back on campus?
Kids are back for 2nd semester and Im being told Nick isnt there. irregular but not that uncommon.
Reminder:
I don't understand the compulsion to pick the scab off this wound.
I don't understand the compulsion to pick the scab off this wound.
I've asked before, what harm has Willie caused by posting the Suriano rumor on Twitter? I'm not trolling....really I'm still missing why people are so upset about it.
I'm curious if anyone thinks Willie doing so could have actually been a good thing. Couldn't the rumor circulating and then picking up steam have caused another 125 lber out there to begin thinking there's now "room at the inn" for him if Nick leaves PSU? Maybe a good young wrestler at another school that wanted to wrestle for Cael but never considered PSU because they were bringing in Nick. For all we know, if the Suriano to Rutgers becomes fact, it may be possible Cael and staff are already working on bringing in his replacement behind the scenes.
I'm curious if anyone thinks Willie doing so could have actually been a good thing. Couldn't the rumor circulating and then picking up steam have caused another 125 lber out there to begin thinking there's now "room at the inn" for him if Nick leaves PSU? Maybe a good young wrestler at another school that wanted to wrestle for Cael but never considered PSU because they were bringing in Nick. For all we know, if the Suriano to Rutgers becomes fact, it may be possible Cael and staff are already working on bringing in his replacement behind the scenes.
No offense to CP but until he is on campus the anonymous message boards will continue to speculate. Especially when you have connected guys in Jerzy saying things continuously. Again no disrespect to CP, but the people who cover NJ wrestling (so IM told) having been calling the Surianos about this with no answer. so the fact that there is no clear answer from the horses mouth so to speak, means someone either is using the rumor to their advantage or this is a thing.
still no there-there, but this is college wrestling not russian collusion.
Rutgers is not allowed to have any conversation with a student-athlete from another school unless the kid has been released or has officially unenrolled or has his current school's permission to talk to other schools which Rutgers most certainly would have confirmed.
A Big10 student-athlete transferring intra-conference must sit out one year of competition and without an exemption loses a year of eligibility. For Nick to leave and enroll in another Big10 school he could not wrestle next season and he would then have only 2 years of competitive eligibility left.
He came to Penn State to be an undefeated 4 time national champion. Gilman took away the undefeated part, an injury took away the shot at 4 timer. I find it damn near impossible to belive he elects to personally remove the possibility of being a 3 time champion.
If there is any truth to whats being said, I have to believe his family is looking into a way to get around losing a year of eligibility like Micic did. This may end up being the determining factor on wether he leaves or not and why they are not commenting right now….again IF this has any merit.
What's the issue the family has with PSU? Lastly, who was CP's source that had him dismiss rumor? Sorry if I missed it
I totally understand why Rutgers fans would continue to believe in this year's cruiseliner to Fantasy Island.
Different times and lack of expectations I guess, i feel left behind and disappointed in how news gets delivered these days. I guess if Twitter is the choice of our President I should accept this?
Same reason PSU fans believed Higuchi was gonna be on the roster this year.Cause the word fan is short for fanatic.
Did any fans not named Spyker believe that?
Thinking aloud here....
Assuming this officially has some legs, how much do you think it would impact McKenna, in terms of $$ we'd be willing to offer? I'd have to think that NS is "worth" more because he's a better prospect. and at a weight of greater need. Now whether we're giving him that premium, who knows. I have to imagine his family is of solid means. And who even knows how much McKenna is even concerned about $$.
Assuming this officially has some legs, how much do you think it would impact McKenna, in terms of $$ we'd be willing to offer? I'd have to think that NS is "worth" more because he's a better prospect. and at a weight of greater need. Now whether we're giving him that premium, who knows. I have to imagine his family is of solid means. And who even knows how much McKenna is even concerned about $$.
Other than Micic enrolled at Michigan I am unsure of the justification for the exemption. Exemptions are rare. If all things possible are being openly explored I would assume Nick has already withdrawn from Penn State, that cat would be out of the bag and if an exemption was not likely schools other than Rutgers (non Big10) would be in the conversation.
When everything that is known is put on the table and examined there seems to be no credibility to this. The only thing keeping this alive are message board posts.
the only keeping this alive is a 1st source saying its BS. If CP tweets out, "my source is bob suriano" then this ends. That didnt happen, hasnt happened and until it does, the message boards will continue to speculate because that is what message boards do.
its too easy to put this to bed ie what mcfadden did.
Thanks. I had never heard a reason. It most likely did not hurt that Michigan was asking.
The McFadden example is applicable if any of the Suriano family regularly tweets. Nobody from the staff, nor team members are going to tweet anything. If my kid, I am certainly not addressing message board rumors.
Maybe Suriano is following Cael to Rutgers and he can't announce his plans until Cael's Rutger deal is finalized.
FWIW, I looked into the upthread confusion as to whether, as would be the case in a Suriano to Rutgers scenario, an intra-conference transfer would result in the tranferee's loss of a year of eligibility if the transfer took place before the transferee had burned their red shirt, and I believe the answer is definitely yes.
Relevant language is as follows [found at this link in context of B1G basketball transfers]:
Apologies to all who already fully understood this to be the case but I wasn't clear and I think others weren't either. HTH.
Relevant language is as follows [found at this link in context of B1G basketball transfers]:
2. Post Matriculation. A student-athlete that has signed a tender from a Conference institution and has triggered transfer status per NCAA Bylaw 14.5.2 (conditions affecting transfer status), may not represent an alternate Big Ten institution in intercollegiate athletics competition until the individual has completed one (1) full academic year of residence at the alternate (i.e., certifying) Big Ten institution and shall be charged with the loss of one (1) season of eligibility in all sports.
That's fairly non-ambiguous language. Elsewhere, the NCAA consistently describes exactly four seasons of eligibility, and describes those seasons in terms that implicitly exclude activity spent as a redshirt. If the NCAA intended to allow transferees to burn their still-intact redshirts on that otherwise-lost year of eligibility, they could have done so by explicitly qualifying as much, and probably would've done so within this section.
Apologies to all who already fully understood this to be the case but I wasn't clear and I think others weren't either. HTH.
No need to apologize. Even after reading your post some still will not get it.
It's what I've heard as well... from what I understand, he was not at any this week. Regardless of what someone is tweeting, I continue to hope my intuition is wrong, and I'll continue to lean the other way until it's official.
Don't see any smog, dirt, soot, homeless people, an incline plane....heroin needles or lines to the soup kitchen or suboxine clinics....
I'm gonna go ahead and rule out Johnstown Pennsylvania..... maybe Medellin Columbia while I'm at it..
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That's an interesting photo pinned in the upper left corner for a soon to be Scarlet Knight.
