bnicolls cracked the case!!!Bull, that board whines like little kids. I hate the portal, slush fund, donations. Just like the bullshit slamming Gavin and DeSanto. Now they're rock star worthy and the portal is awesome. Get real. Tell Vodka to have another drink so he can keep talking sh%t yer claiming he's not talking sh%t. Y'all got a wrestler through the portal today yet had a post complaining mostly about the portal. It's a giant conspiracy and the whole world cheats except Iowa. I forgot, Cael doesn't develop wrestlers, only recruits and that came from a 5 million dollar donation. We know because a Iowa insider said so. Lmao.
Yeah, the booster who funded the slush so Cael could win titles a couple years after Cael started winning titles and paid to have new facilities built in some year when facilities weren't built, told him all about it over lunch.Doesn't seem to make sense, but he's not trying to give some PSU history, he's just telling the facts.bnicolls cracked the case!!!
Just because one may be rich does not mean you can’t be off your rocker (e.g. Elon Musk, etc). They have a few guys who clearly are respected professionals - given their twitter profiles, but are near-complete lunatics when it comes to their Iowa wrestling against the world mentality.
I was so tempted to ask bnicolls and WWdM - both Inner Circle leaders and acolytes of Gable - what they thought of Gable’s very flexible use of in-State scholarships for non-Iowans. So flexible that his interpretation of the rule was shared by almost no other big 10 coach in any sport to the same degree. Too bad the NCAA only reviewed a short period of time as we only got a partial picture of what he was up to.
I'll try to channel my inner Roar...
I'm not worried about next season. I'm just happy this season is beginning Sunday.
Bwi = a guy posts he would rather just root for our guysThere is plenty of bitching on both websites..
Do you not actually read both forums? There is plenty of whining on bwi.Bwi = a guy posts he would rather just root for our guys
HR = good lord Cael just cheats and brings these guys in overtop of his own. The portal is a tool instituted by Cael for Penn State, blah, blah, blah, wonk, wonk, wonk.
Turk = plenty of bitching on both boards.
Yeah, OK.
Transfer coming in to replace graduating transfer. Tommy is the best developer of talent and knows how to get the most out of guys.
Lugo before Iowa = 0 time AA.
After Iowa = AA and currently ranked top 6.
Desanto before Iowa = 0 AA
After Iowa = AA and currently ranked 2nd at 133.
Seems to me that TnT must be doing something right. Apparently, Eierman agrees.
Is anyone saying that TnT aren't good coaches?
Both had AA-level potential before going to Iowa. Good for TnT for helping them reach this potential.
Here I thought danoftw was being sarcastic. I didn't realize he was being sincere in his praise of Brands.
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Is anyone saying that TnT aren't good coaches? Anyway, Lugo and DeSanto probably aren't the examples you want to use. Lugo was the NCAA 8 seed for Edinboro in 2017 and underperformed. DeSanto was the 7 seed for Drexel in 2018 and then lost his mind. Both were AA-level talents before going to Iowa. Good for TnT for recognizing already established talent to transfer in to fill in the gaping chasms of their recruiting. They're adding new chapters to the 3 inch binder.
Iowa looks tough in 2021? Hell, enjoy 2020!
Cael, Cody, Casey and team have put forth a huge effort to give us something to enjoy and have fun with in 2020, and those same ingredients combined with time will take care of 2021.
Turk = telling people his life storyBwi = a guy posts he would rather just root for our guys
HR = good lord Cael just cheats and brings these guys in overtop of his own. The portal is a tool instituted by Cael for Penn State, blah, blah, blah, wonk, wonk, wonk.
Turk = plenty of bitching on both boards.
Yeah, OK.
That is weak example of cause and effect. Ever consider that Desanto and Lugo might have achieved similar results without transferring?Lugo before Iowa = 0 time AA.
After Iowa = AA and currently ranked top 6.
Desanto before Iowa = 0 AA
After Iowa = AA and currently ranked 2nd at 133.
Seems to me that TnT must be doing something right. Apparently, Eierman agrees.
Especially since Lugo had already beaten their golden boy Sorenson before he ever stepped foot in Iowa City. But no, Brands coached him up.That is weak example of cause and effect. Ever consider that Desanto and Lugo might have achieved similar results without transferring?
Iowa has to be considered the favorite in 2021 at this point, but a lot can happen in a year.
bnicolls cracked the case!!!
Just because one may be rich does not mean you can’t be off your rocker (e.g. Elon Musk, etc). They have a few guys who clearly are respected professionals - given their twitter profiles, but are near-complete lunatics when it comes to their Iowa wrestling against the world mentality.
I was so tempted to ask bnicolls and WWdM - both Inner Circle leaders and acolytes of Gable - what they thought of Gable’s very flexible use of in-State scholarships for non-Iowans. So flexible that his interpretation of the rule was shared by almost no other big 10 coach in any sport to the same degree. Too bad the NCAA only reviewed a short period of time as we only got a partial picture of what he was up to.
Sorry for the confusion. It is sarcasm.Here I thought danoftw was being sarcastic. I didn't realize he was being sincere in his praise of Brands.
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Did you know he got married? Congrats TurkWe know Turk. You post all of your life events on public wrestling boards as if you're the first to do it. Congrats man, chin up.
Dare we say Anchors Aweigh on the season?Iowa has a good team, and it's good for the sport, but they're just not that important right now.
First dual is this Sunday, and it's against NAVY. For now, that's my focus. Line 'em up, and let's get started.
The Inner Circle Jerk slogan!Oh come on fellas ...
Ya'll are pissing and moaning about the amount of pissing and moaning on wrestling-centric online forums
DeSanto would not have made the podium without transferring since Azevedo kicked him off the team.That is weak example of cause and effect. Ever consider that Desanto and Lugo might have achieved similar results without transferring?
so, you're saying these boards don't represent the entire fan base?Truly focusing on what's important and our loyalties a fans, and the answer to how to deal with fringe fans from other teams is really, really, really, really easy. Penn State, Cael and the rest of the coaches, the state of Pennsylvania, you name it -- none of them need to be defended in the way some do.
I've been blessed to be able to travel for wrestling duals and tournaments. Along the way, have had many respectful, candid conversations with fans from other teams. A high majority are solid, wrestling-loving folks that root hard for their team without bashing others. Yet some focus on the one-percenters. The one-percenters get a big, fat meh from me. Quote I heard recently, from a well-respected man -- "you don't need to be a jerk to be a fan".
PA, PA Transfer, Transfer, PA, Illinois, PA
Yep. T&T has found a formula. 2/3 PA, 1/3 Transfers and a random top 3 recruit.
But it's funny to go to an RTC that has no success except at 57 thinking you'll be better off there than at the NLWC.
Fair point at 57/61 kg.Not an Iowa guy, but who has earned a medal, at the Senior World's or Olympics, from the NLWC at 57/65? At the lower weights, Iowa has proven to be a better room. That's just facts. I know you won't see it that way, but look objectively and not with your blue and white shades on.
Gilman made multiple teams and was a World Silver. Ramos made multiple teams. The NLWC had Molinaro at the Olympics, once and no World's, and Zain not putting up very good showings at his 2 Worlds.
If we're keeping count, that's 1-0, in the medal count, and at least 3-1 (Possible 4-1. Can't remember if Ramos wrestled for bronze once or twice.) in wrestling in a medal match. Not to mention a 4-3 advantage at making World teams, in the last 5 years.
Fair point at 57/61 kg.
Who at Iowa has merited being in that conversation at 65/70 kg?
Two entirely different discussions.