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Trying to imagine that juggernaut Eastern conference Joe envisioned

Penn State
Pitt
Rutgers
Maryland
Syracuse
Boston College
UMass
West Virginia
Virginia
Va Tech

We’d never lose in the regular season. Ever.
 
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Now the question is--do Vandeross and Gleason portal after their performances today? Tricky era to be a coach--could actually hurt your team next year if they perform well in a bowl game and someone tries to steal them
 
Trying to imagine that juggernaut Eastern conference Joe envisioned

Penn State
Pitt
Rutgers
Maryland
Syracuse
Boston College
UMass
West Virginia
Virginia
Va Tech

We’d never lose in the regular season. Ever.
It would have collapsed or merged with the ACC like the Big East did
 
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Trying to imagine that juggernaut Eastern conference Joe envisioned

Penn State
Pitt
Rutgers
Maryland
Syracuse
Boston College
UMass
West Virginia
Virginia
Va Tech

We’d never lose in the regular season. Ever.

When the alternative was to be the red-headed stepchild in a conference where we were resented and screwed over from Day One, that lineup looks positively peachy to me, Pat. I'd take it to this day.
 
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When the alternative was to be the red-headed stepchild in a conference where we were resented and screwed over from Day One, that lineup looks positively peachy to me, Pat. I'd take it to this day.
Being in the Big Ten is great for us--it's okay to acknowledge that it was the right move
 
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Being in the Big Ten is great for us--it's okay to acknowledge that it was the right move

True if you look at it from the perspective of super conferences. I think college sports would be a lot better off -- for all schools -- if geography mattered. Travel expense, fan attendance, time for academics -- all would be better served by playing the regular season locally.

Form 8 true conferences based on geography and then have a playoff using the NY6 bowls with only the conference winners. The "preseason" interconference games would not eliminate teams but would establish a basis for seeding. This is essentially the NFL model without wild cards. A 16 game playoff with the first round as it is today would also work. Smaller conferences could enable the elimination of conference championship games. Those only became necessary as the conferences grew to the point of needing divisions.
 
Being in the Big Ten is great for us--it's okay to acknowledge that it was the right move

Screw the Big Suck, Lando. We never got an even break there from Day One and never will.

You have to be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome...or maybe Abused-Wife Syndrome...feeling gratitude for your victimizers to have any warm feeling for this dirtbag league.

Then again, most of the teams in this conference have been long conditioned to bend over with thanks to their two overlords. But before joining, we had our own tradition and history. We never needed Ohio State or Michigan to feel good about that record.
 
Screw the Big Suck, Lando. We never got an even break there from Day One and never will.

You have to be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome...or maybe Abused-Wife Syndrome...feeling gratitude for your victimizers to have any warm feeling for this dirtbag league.

Then again, most of the teams in this conference have been long conditioned to bend over with thanks to their two overlords. But before joining, we had our own tradition and history. We never needed Ohio State or Michigan to feel good about that record.
Hating the Big Ten is fine but you have to acknowledge the benefits. The only other real option is the SEC. Then you'd complain about everyone cheating, their being no academics and different schools being catered to

The reality is many here still want us to be an Independent (see you talking about the past) when we aren't ND. And even ND will eventually be a Big Ten program.
 
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Trying to imagine that juggernaut Eastern conference Joe envisioned

Penn State
Pitt
Rutgers
Maryland
Syracuse
Boston College
UMass
West Virginia
Virginia
Va Tech

We’d never lose in the regular season. Ever.

Maybe that schedule contributed to joes success.

He also played army, navy and temple.
 
When the alternative was to be the red-headed stepchild in a conference where we were resented and screwed over from Day One, that lineup looks positively peachy to me, Pat. I'd take it to this day.


Which conference does not resent psu? Who will kiss your arse? Do you think any of those teams on the Eastern conference list like psu?
 
Which conference does not resent psu? Who will kiss your arse? Do you think any of those teams on the Eastern conference list like psu?

Voltz, good Lord, man, do you remember when we used to play those teams...and we were the Eastern equivalent of Ohio State and Michigan? Life was pretty good then. I mean, the refs were on our side in those days. Look it up.

We were hated and resented from Day One in the Big Suck. They went out of their way to drum in the message that we'd never have the same status as their Two Sacred Cows.

Look, it is what it is. There ain't no going back. Just don't tell me that I should be grateful for it.
 
Voltz, good Lord, man, do you remember when we used to play those teams...and we were the Eastern equivalent of Ohio State and Michigan? Life was pretty good then. I mean, the refs were on our side in those days. Look it up.

We were hated and resented from Day One in the Big Suck. They went out of their way to drum in the message that we'd never have the same status as their Two Sacred Cows.

Look, it is what it is. There ain't no going back. Just don't tell me that I should be grateful for it.
All those teams were provided a meal ticket by PSU
 
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Voltz, good Lord, man, do you remember when we used to play those teams...and we were the Eastern equivalent of Ohio State and Michigan? Life was pretty good then. I mean, the refs were on our side in those days. Look it up.

We were hated and resented from Day One in the Big Suck. They went out of their way to drum in the message that we'd never have the same status as their Two Sacred Cows.

Look, it is what it is. There ain't no going back. Just don't tell me that I should be grateful for it.
Right...you still want to be an independent which isn't a possibility
Even if you've hated the Big Ten for 30 years there's no question that, today, it's the best place for us
 
Right...you still want to be an independent which isn't a possibility
Even if you've hated the Big Ten for 30 years there's no question that, today, it's the best place for us

Being an Independent isn't a possibility but I'd rather be in an Eastern conference with all the old rivals, some ACC refugees, plus a few games against respectable intersectional opponents.

Joe tried to make it happen but should have waited a few more years. It might have fallen into place. As it was, he came to realize early on that the move to the Big Suck was a Big Mistake.
 
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Classy Pat skipped the post game handshake. Maybe he was too embarrassed after losing his 6th straight to a MAC cellar dweller. The new Pitt AD had to go apologize to the Toledo coach.
I thought he was off the field quickly as they showed him immediately entering the tunnel. I just assumed he did a quick drive by handshake postgame but thought the timing didn’t really work out for that.
 
Being an Independent isn't a possibility but I'd rather be in an Eastern conference with all the old rivals, some ACC refugees, plus a few games against respectable intersectional opponents.

Joe tried to make it happen but should have waited a few more years. It might have fallen into place. As it was, he came to realize early on that the move to the Big Suck was a Big Mistake.
And then we'd be in the ACC suing the conference trying to escape
Joe and Penn State did the right thing to abandon the Eastern Conference alliance--look at how bad those old Big East teams are now.
 
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Screw the Big Suck, Lando. We never got an even break there from Day One and never will.

You have to be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome...or maybe Abused-Wife Syndrome...feeling gratitude for your victimizers to have any warm feeling for this dirtbag league.

Then again, most of the teams in this conference have been long conditioned to bend over with thanks to their two overlords. But before joining, we had our own tradition and history. We never needed Ohio State or Michigan to feel good about that record.
The Big Suck. Chuckle.
 
Being an Independent isn't a possibility but I'd rather be in an Eastern conference with all the old rivals, some ACC refugees, plus a few games against respectable intersectional opponents.

Joe tried to make it happen but should have waited a few more years. It might have fallen into place. As it was, he came to realize early on that the move to the Big Suck was a Big Mistake.
All we had to do was unite the old Eastern independents and it would’ve had the makings of one of the best conferences in the country:

Florida State
Miami
Penn State
Pitt
South Carolina
Syracuse
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
 
I thought he was off the field quickly as they showed him immediately entering the tunnel. I just assumed he did a quick drive by handshake postgame but thought the timing didn’t really work out for that.
They showed a clip of him as the game ended. He was on one knee watching, stood up when the try failed, and immediately waved the team straight to the locker room.

In his defense…….which really hurts to do…. There were several fights during the game. And the first time Toledo thought they won the entire team roared across the field towards the Pitt team.

He may have just wanted to avoid trouble.🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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All we had to do was unite the old Eastern independents and it would’ve had the makings of one of the best conferences in the country:

Florida State
Miami
Penn State
Pitt
South Carolina
Syracuse
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
I liked my eastern conference better
 
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