Absolutely. I think there are probably 16 wrestlers in this dual meet who can beat their opponent tomorrow night.
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1) I guess if the conference was cheating, it doesn’t count.
2) even in the conference, Iowa was pushing it furthest AND benefiting the most (because Iowa in-state talent was at all-time highs at the time).
125 has been weak not that lee can do anything about it but 125 over a 2-3 yr stretch is historically weak not to many elite guys can hold that weight for even 2 yrs. So if your calling a weight with 2maybe 3 really top wrestlers tuff so be it.
Big Ten fined, seven schools must forfeit scholarships
The NCAA has censured the Big Ten and fined the league $75,000 for a rule that allowed seven universities to hand out the equivalent of 65 scholarships more...
“In a conference call from Norman, Okla., Swank said the rule in question dealt with computing equivalency scholarships and factoring in higher out-of-state tuition.
The Big Ten adopted the rule in 1978, rejected repealing it in 1984 and finally repealed it in 1990. Swank said the NCAA raised concerns about the rule shortly after it was adopted but the Big 10 for some reason never passed that concern on to member schools. Swank and Big Ten Commissioner Richard Delaney declined to lay blame on any individual.”
I was being facetious since others have tried to downplay Spencer’s success somewhat. I think he’s so much better than everyone else that it makes the weight look weak. Kind of like junior/senior year for Zain at 149 and Nolf at 157. They were so much better they made the competition look weak.
I am rarely disappointed with much of anything. I have confidence they are capable of running the table after 125, but if they don't not a big deal. If the effort is there (which it will be) I will be sufficiently entertained.
A freaking wrestling match in central PA that will have 16,000 in attendance, against Iowa and instead of hoping for a Penn St upset against the crowned king of the sport I am hoping for and expecting an ass kicking of the former crowned king by the current crowned king. My wrestling fandom life is good. If my expectations are a bit overheated, oh well. If my expectations are met, cool. I get to talk shit to you and our other HR guests.
Just gonna say, Zain's Sophmore year was also exactly like this. Yes, I'm still mad he didn't win the Hodge that year. . .
Hard-core Iowa Hawkeye fan acknowledges what the world outside HR VILLAGE has known for a while, "Cael is the bestest".
Please no Grammer jokes, it was an emotional moment and his lips were quivering, eyes tearing and hands shaking as he consciously acknowledged the obvious.
LOL! I don’t know how anyone wouldn’t admit that Cael is better at preparing his athletes and running a program than TnT or any other active coach. The proof is there based on the last 12 years. I’m not oblivious to facts. However, fans who don’t think that is enough and constantly have to make comments that TnT are horrible coaches doesn’t make sense to me. If they are horrible then John Smith, Tom Ryan, Sean Bormet, Pat Popolizio, etc….must be downright awful since TnT have had far more success than any of them.
Do you grasp the meaning of the word hyperbole? Or hype?
Definition of HYPERBOLE
extravagant exaggeration (such as 'mile-high ice-cream cones')… See the full definition
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Those fan comments like many are not to be taken seriously, it's obvious crap talking.
Big Ten fined, seven schools must forfeit scholarships
The NCAA has censured the Big Ten and fined the league $75,000 for a rule that allowed seven universities to hand out the equivalent of 65 scholarships more...www.upi.com
“In a conference call from Norman, Okla., Swank said the rule in question dealt with computing equivalency scholarships and factoring in higher out-of-state tuition.
The Big Ten adopted the rule in 1978, rejected repealing it in 1984 and finally repealed it in 1990. Swank said the NCAA raised concerns about the rule shortly after it was adopted but the Big 10 for some reason never passed that concern on to member schools. Swank and Big Ten Commissioner Richard Delaney declined to lay blame on any individual.”
NCAA SET TO PUNISH BIG 10
The NCAA has censured the Big 10 and will withhold $75,000 in grant money to the conference as penalties for a faulty league policy that allowed seven schools to hand out more scholarships than per…
www.chicagotribune.com
“Northwestern, Michigan State, Ohio State and Penn State didn't exceed scholarship restrictions and were not hit with penalties.”
“The powerhouse Iowa wrestling program reportedly was five scholarships over the limit during the period.”
Taking Caels name out of it, of the remaining coaches you’ve named, I’d take Pops if I were starting a new program.
You can try to brush it off as hyperbole. There are some on here who literally think TnT are the worst. If it was a once in a while occurrence then I would agree. I’ve read this board for awhile and their are more than a few that literally hate them.Do you grasp the meaning of the word hyperbole? Or hype?
Definition of HYPERBOLE
extravagant exaggeration (such as 'mile-high ice-cream cones')… See the full definition
Those fan comments like many are not to be taken seriously, it's obvious crap talking.
They are most definitely not the worst. Probably 2nd best. But also, IMO, not in a great position to improve relative to say, Ryan, Bormet, or even Pop. Much less Cael. Iowa certainly has the will and to some degree the resources--but I don't see those old dawgs learning very many new tricks.
Do you grasp the meaning of the word hyperbole? Or hype?
Definition of HYPERBOLE
extravagant exaggeration (such as 'mile-high ice-cream cones')… See the full definition
Those fan comments like many are not to be taken seriously, it's obvious crap talking.
I will say that @jmadden1998 has made a fun week even better and some of the digs are mostly in jest, but the best humor has some basis in fact even if it is exaggerated. I am pumped for tomorrow and win or lose it is going to be great viewing, especially with my Iowan spouse watching with me.
I am not one that hates anyone. Let alone Tom Brands. Tom was jogging to the visitors locker room at Rec Hall and a kid asked him for an autograph. Tom stopped in his tracks and signed for the kid. That was awesome in my book.
This isn’t directed at you at all. I get how the Brands aren’t for everyone. But their success can’t be denied. It just isn’t as great as Cael’s.
Based upon many decades of experience. Short of having a son or grandson the conversion is not happening.
I like Tom Brands. I could do without Terry.
I know it is sacrilegious to say that I don't hate the way that Iowa wrestles. They are tough and physical and have a penchant for winning close matches. I will say that I do hate the Warner 6-20 second ride outs. Guys get to their feet and then it is a walk out to a restart. This is something that should be better addressed by officials. They are just too hesitant to call top stalling in every match. It seems like the only time is when you drop onto the legs for the count.
She sounds like a sensible woman but the months of October to September must be quiet in your house 😁. Mrs Whizzer likes wrestling but for different reasons than I do (tight singlets, sweaty muscles, dudes younger than 45), wish Apple made a mute button on the remote that works on her.
This reminds me of the time I brought my sister to a dual at Rec. She was a good sport and seemed to appreciate PSU’s greatness. But after she watched Ant the Champ swag his way to the mat (and double-leg some guy to the moon no doubt), she really seemed to turn a corner on the sport and occasionally asks me about him to this day. 😂
I’m telling you guys, we’re gonna flip JM. 😉Breaking response from HR stalwarts:
Just think of all this energy he has . . . to be utilized against The Turd.
I just wanted to share a positive story about Tom. He is a great coach.
"the Big 10 for some reason never passed that concern on to member schools" lol. That is classic corporate-speak for: the biggest star in the sport, who is one of ours, got caught and we're gonna sweep it under the rug because we can.NCAA SET TO PUNISH BIG 10
The NCAA has censured the Big 10 and will withhold $75,000 in grant money to the conference as penalties for a faulty league policy that allowed seven schools to hand out more scholarships than per…
“Northwestern, Michigan State, Ohio State and Penn State didn't exceed scholarship restrictions and were not hit with penalties.”
“The powerhouse Iowa wrestling program reportedly was five scholarships over the limit during the period.”
Anybody think Delaney makes that same statement to protect Indiana or Purdue?
Maybe she should watch Penn State matches.
LemonPie is your sister?
No, but I've seen enough of rip and roar jumping on chairs yelling he's stalling to then sit back in their while their spawn hangs back for 7 minutes trying to win a national championship in hand fighting. He's awful.
With Nelson? Hell ya! I would have 20 years ago.
With Tom or Terry? Nope. And I was bigger than Nelson.
Good God man are you really this simple. There is absolutely no one, zero as ignorant as ironbyrd. He represents the worst of the lot over there. I'm hoping your just trying to be a *ick and truly do not believe your own *hit you are shoveling.
Have you read CJFisJoePaII’s posts?
Yep. Still not as ignorant, but Bird set the bar pretty high. For the record Tom would be a great guy to have a beer with and talk about stuff besides wrestling. But I don't drink and don't think he does either. Safe travels IA folks. Good luck and hope all these guys come out of this healthy.
He couldn't bring himself to promote the Big10 champion over a defeated OSU team.
Yeah, there’s no doubt that Iowa is one of the elite programs and they are a big part of it. We laugh at them a lot because they are basically caricatures, but their success speaks for itself.
I would argue that bird set the bar low not high!
