Based on what? I think we can win but this nonsense that this is a lock for us has to stop
Fan Duel says OSU -5.5
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It rained on Saturday. Sounded like pretty miserable conditions from the podcasts I watched afterward. One of those 20-yarders would have likely been a catch in better conditions even though the throw was a little long. The weather is not expected to be a factor like that on Saturday. Despite conditions, I think we found a #2 receiver on Saturday, which has been a missing piece all year. You have a decent pass-blocking OL, probably the best arm in the Big Ten and have the fewest long pass play attempts. Are we afraid to throw long, not very good at receiver, or have we not tried it much because it's not needed to win? I guess we'll find out.
The forecast unfortunately calls for potential rain...But, I'm guessing not the monsoon from last week. Yep we will find out the answers.
So far, Allar has thrown well in the rain.
Not so sure of that. This is a different OSU than in the past. The offense is breaking in a new QB and 3 OL. Injuries to the skill players on offense is a problem. The offense has clearly taken a step backwards. However, the defense is much improved. A great game that could go either way.
You mean our #15 rated running game hasn’t ignited yet? Can’t wait till it does!
(OSUs is 92nd. Michigans is 40)
Allar is on pace to have at least as good of a year statistically speaking as the 5th year Senior he replaced.
Actually he is better in some areas, specifically completion %, passing touchdowns, interceptions, rushing yards, and rushing touchdowns.
He has not committed a turnover all season and just got one of his top Receivers back on the field this past Saturday. If he and/or either of the Running Backs pops off for one or two big plays Penn State might control the entire game given the performance of the defense to date.
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Defense will come through and offense will score .I agree this defense seems to really love playing for Manny plus there is quality all over the roster
I really want to point out how much of a loss Caeden Wallace was last year.
Bryce Effner was in shambles at the right tackle. JT Tuimoloa was able to just run around him.
Jimmy Christ was also playing in there and was a mess as well.
Not counting all of the missed opportunities because we weren't healthy on the line, missing Wallace directly lead to 14 points to OSU. The fumble and the pick 6 were results of Effner completely wiffing on a block. That certainly isn't to put the blame for the loss on Effner, there is plenty to go around. But having a healthy OL going in is a breath of fresh air.
Bryce Effner was in shambles at the right tackle. JT Tuimoloa was able to just run around him.
Jimmy Christ was also playing in there and was a mess as well.
Not counting all of the missed opportunities because we weren't healthy on the line, missing Wallace directly lead to 14 points to OSU. The fumble and the pick 6 were results of Effner completely wiffing on a block. That certainly isn't to put the blame for the loss on Effner, there is plenty to go around. But having a healthy OL going in is a breath of fresh air.
Good point. I didn't watch the game. I had a commitment and filmed it but couldn't bring myself to watch it. I didn't know Wallace didn't play, or didn't remember that. I watched Tuimoloa a couple of times this year and he's good but not "Bosa good". PSU made him a superstar last year.
As I've said, I think we've improved at every position except QB and I am still not sure about that. I don't think tOSU has improved at every position.
I look for a good, hard-fought, close game.
Here are the two plays I am talking about. The game was 23-21 at this point, it was back and forth but we were going punch for punch. Clifford had Washington wide open over the middle on this play but JT just plowed Effner into Clifford who then fumbled it and lost it.
and this, was the dagger. again, Clifford doesn't help things here, but Effner really didn't do his job.
And here is another missed assignment
And this is something we thankfully don't have to deal with anymore
honestly, i think franklin has concerns with having a young first time starter at QB, and doesn't want to push him too quickly..what does that mean?..he knows allar has zero mobility, so he doesn't want him standing in the pocket waiting to get hit while long pass routes develop. it doesn't help that psu doesn't have a legit "star" at WR that could make like easy for a young QB. so the obvious tactic is run the ball with 2 good RB's and use a short passing game. there may be parts of the playbook that haven't been used, but it's more likely that franklin has a reluctance to run those higher risk plays, as opposed to a master plan where he is waiting to unveil these plays..psu has been able to "keep it vanilla", because they have had the better players..the rubber will hit the road against osu and UM, where the level of talent is equal or better..psu has home run hitters at RB, could take it to the house on any play....but i don't believe they have an offensive line that can exert their will on osu or UM, and cannot have a consistent run game for an entire game...knowles has backed off from his mad dog zero coverage schemes from last year, but i could see him using it saturday to see if the kid from medina can beat him passing..
you area going to be surprised at Allar's mobility. He isn't a runner, but he is elusive.
Zero mobility isn't accurate for Allar. He's not going to run for 80 yards but he can create time and pick up a few yards.
No, he's more mobile than that. Navarre probably had negative rushing yards his career because he couldn't escape pressure and, if he did, definitely didn't take off. Or rarely did.
What exactly makes a grown man want to go on anothers teams message board, and troll over a game that isn't even his teams game? It seems like someone who has nothing better going on in their life and is kind of a dick.
Yes, well don't let me stop you from finding comfort in stats, Gregg, but I know what I saw with my own two eyes against Iowa, Illinois, and Northwestern.
Check those numbers and look at the tape. "Hasn't ignited" is an upbeat description of the running attack in all three games.
I'd be delighted to be wrong. Maybe I am. I certainly think we have a chance to win in Columbus and am fervently hoping we do. In any case, we'll find out in a few days.
Some of these big guys can shift and slide quite well, extending the time they have to throw. He'll be fine.
Personally i saw them ram it down iowas throat and they couldn't do anything to stop it.
College Football Nerds (analytics) predicts PSU will win 26.9 to 17.4. So 27 to 17.
Ran for 215 yards vs Iowa and had 28 first downs to their 4, totally controlled the clock.
Don't care for that style?
PSU so far has run better than Ohio State.
3.8 yards an attempt is not "ramming it down their throats."
Our D won that game. That's the reality.
I agree we've run better than Ohio State.
Or at least I agree that the Bucks have their own big problems on O.
I don't know, maybe I feel snake-bitten after the last few years. Hard to be airily optimistic as a lot of our fans are.
Therefore, predict a loss and happily eat crow if that's wrong.
I agree with you. In these kinds of games, the biggest challenge is that you believe. MD had a shot but got impatient and shot themselves in the foot. Our team has to feel and know that they belong. They can't pucker up when something goes wrong. It will and they'll need to overcome it. Teams like tOSU just keep punching because they know they belong and have the ability to win.
well, you should take it as a compliment that fans of other teams visit, this board is quite active, more so than most...i'm a fan of the game, and UM of course, your team directly impacts the big ten race...actually am retired and recovering from a spring heart attack, so i do have plenty of time on my hands, thx for asking..if you're only interested in a hive mindset, and mutual psu slathering, i'm sorry for upsetting you..
has nothing to do with mccord, and personally i think mccord's biggest advantage over allar is that he is playing at home...has to do with eluding osu's defense, thought that was self explanatory..
Not sure what you’ve been watching as a Penn state fan predicting a loss. This is best all around team Franklin has had and this isn’t Ohio state of the past with nfl first rounder at QB. Can’t win this year at osu they may never
