Gable Steveson saga
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LOL beat him once maybe an upset beat him twice no upset just better wrestler no matter but flo calls Gable the goat not even close!
I have Flo’s take right here.
You’re not going to fool 13 year old me. I know for sure that’s a different contact sport.
Said every wife foreverGetting bent out of shape in the off season is how we stay flexible for the season.
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No what's funny is it didn't happen and anyone can speculate. Doesn't make it real or that it would happen I mean I was pretty sure Spencer was winning four and he was far more superior and dominating than Stevenson ever was and look what happened but I get your point I won't dispute it
If you turn the dial JUST right you may get a glimpse of some t&a there.
I have Flo’s take right here.
Hmmm, I’m torn on this - Spencer lost several more matches to several different wrestlers and got decked a couple of times.
yes sir. Twice. So if Gable lost to Ant twice, by virtue of the transitive property rule, Ant is the GOAT times two, and belongs on Mount Rushmore next to Abe, who was also a GOAT wrestler back in the day.
I can see your point. I was just messing with js you know, keeping him on his toes to avoid the Iowa push out
You beat me to it! 🤣
Of course, as I mentioned in another post, I tell my wife that when she disagrees with an opinion that I have on any subject, it’s a pretty good indication that she is wrong. 😆
How can you both dismiss freestyle results and value "longevity"? You do know that all college athletes only get 4 years to compete, right? If you're restricting yourself to folkstyle only and consider freestyle almost a different sport, then longevity is completely meaningless. Cognitive dissonance at its worst. LOL.
As I stated previously I was an attendee at a USA wrestling event in Philadelphia last year. Was at the same table as Mark Hall and I asked him about Gable and any football prospects. He said to his knowledge Gable had never played a down of football
how good can Gable be he can't even make it in pro wrestling!!LOL guess he isn't too good at acting!!
I think you completely missed my point which is how you came up with cognitive dissonance. Getting back to Gable, I've noticed that he seems to lose interest in everything he does in short order. A phenomenal athlete, but in five short years has dabbled in folkstyle, freestyle, professional football, professional wrestling, and thought about MMA. I don't think it's a money issue as much as it is an attention span issue. He bores easily.
I think it's more of a money and fame issue. He's really good at the things that don't pay very well and not so good at the things that will make you rich and famous.
And he has to be good at football fast during camp. He needs live football. During the season there is little to no development of players anymore. There are 14 practices with pads on during the whole season and first teamers aren’t sharing time just to see if the new guy can get better. Practice squad expanded rosters for the season and are situational. They aren’t practicing like you might think, so him on a practice squad as a purely raw player at DT is a big long shot. Unless he shows real flashes in camp.
But not having played a down of FB before? Hard to imagine. But there’s no risk in giving him a shot. Why not.
Gable is a phenomenal athlete. Given enough time, I'm pretty sure he could excel at almost any sport with the notable exception of being a horse racing jockey.
However, we're talking about the NFL. Everyone who is out there is an exceptional athlete. I don't know the exact statistics but I remember reading somewhere about the actual percentage of football players who make it into the NFL, and it is a very small number. That's Gable's competition this time around. I'd like to see something come of it for his sake, but it's a steep hill to climb.
However, we're talking about the NFL. Everyone who is out there is an exceptional athlete. I don't know the exact statistics but I remember reading somewhere about the actual percentage of football players who make it into the NFL, and it is a very small number. That's Gable's competition this time around. I'd like to see something come of it for his sake, but it's a steep hill to climb.
Sorry if I missed it, but has anyone mentioned Carlton Haselrig as one who made the transition to the NFL?
From wiki:
The Pennsylvania native began his collegiate career as a football player at Lock Haven, but a knee injury before the start of his freshman year prevented him from ever suiting up for a game. During winter break, he decided to transfer to his hometown school and take classes at Pittsburgh-Johnstown, which did not have a football team.
With that move, Haselrig set in motion the most prolific career in NCAA wrestling history — one that ended in, of all places, the National Football League (NFL)....
After a brief run in wrestling on the international level, Haselrig turned his attention to professional football. Despite never having played football in college,[5] Haselrig was drafted in the 12th round by the Pittsburgh Steelers.[6] He became a Pro Bowl offensive guard in his third NFL season.[7] 1992 was his best season in the NFL, making the 1992 Pro Bowl, while helping the Steelers win the 1992 AFC Central Division title. He also helped the Steelers to three AFC playoff appearances (1989, 1992, 1993). After five seasons with the Steelers, Haselrig spent one season with the New York Jets before retiring from the NFL.
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From wiki:
The Pennsylvania native began his collegiate career as a football player at Lock Haven, but a knee injury before the start of his freshman year prevented him from ever suiting up for a game. During winter break, he decided to transfer to his hometown school and take classes at Pittsburgh-Johnstown, which did not have a football team.
With that move, Haselrig set in motion the most prolific career in NCAA wrestling history — one that ended in, of all places, the National Football League (NFL)....
After a brief run in wrestling on the international level, Haselrig turned his attention to professional football. Despite never having played football in college,[5] Haselrig was drafted in the 12th round by the Pittsburgh Steelers.[6] He became a Pro Bowl offensive guard in his third NFL season.[7] 1992 was his best season in the NFL, making the 1992 Pro Bowl, while helping the Steelers win the 1992 AFC Central Division title. He also helped the Steelers to three AFC playoff appearances (1989, 1992, 1993). After five seasons with the Steelers, Haselrig spent one season with the New York Jets before retiring from the NFL.
Carlton Haselrig - Wikipedia
Missed it? Search "Haselrig" and you will find 10 pages of posts on him, not to mention many in this very thread.
Yep, you missed 'it'. ;-)
They have. They have also compared the relative sizes of the lineman now to today. The other issue is live practice and pads. It doesn’t exist today. 14 total practices in pads during the season. I listed to Bill Polian last year discussing how the NFL does not develop players anymore because of it. They can only develop on field. They now need to come with the skills.Sorry if I missed it, but has anyone mentioned Carlton Haselrig as one who made the transition to the NFL?
From wiki:
The Pennsylvania native began his collegiate career as a football player at Lock Haven, but a knee injury before the start of his freshman year prevented him from ever suiting up for a game. During winter break, he decided to transfer to his hometown school and take classes at Pittsburgh-Johnstown, which did not have a football team.
With that move, Haselrig set in motion the most prolific career in NCAA wrestling history — one that ended in, of all places, the National Football League (NFL)....
After a brief run in wrestling on the international level, Haselrig turned his attention to professional football. Despite never having played football in college,[5] Haselrig was drafted in the 12th round by the Pittsburgh Steelers.[6] He became a Pro Bowl offensive guard in his third NFL season.[7] 1992 was his best season in the NFL, making the 1992 Pro Bowl, while helping the Steelers win the 1992 AFC Central Division title. He also helped the Steelers to three AFC playoff appearances (1989, 1992, 1993). After five seasons with the Steelers, Haselrig spent one season with the New York Jets before retiring from the NFL.
Carlton Haselrig - Wikipedia
It seems to me if there is a wrestler than can do this, it would be someone as athletic as Gable. But his odds today are longer than Haselrig’s. It would actually be a good thing for wrestling and a fun story, minus the obvious hyperbole of GOAT wrestler that will inevitably accompany.
there aren't many heavies that could beat Carlton I think it would be no contest he would easily beat Gable!pretty good for a kid that high school had no wrestling program!
I remember listening to WBPZ in Lock Haven. They carried districts, regionals, and states on the radio, and I clearly recall them talking about this kid from Johnstown that was 0-0 on the year but got a waiver to wrestle districts. Swept his way through districts, and by regionals was a mini sensation. Finished his HS career at 10-0. That's how the legend of Carlton Haselrig began.
ah, wbpz. harris lipez & dave king calling the matches. harris, "if you like good sports, be one" ,and " smith the stronger if the two and jones the lankier wrestler"
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Gable and Kerk both wrestle the same they don't like to use anymore energy that they have to!
Haselrig went 143-2-1 in college. Who were his two losses to? Also noted that he was 15-0 at the Div 1 level and beat Kurt Angle one year. The rules excluding D2 and D3 winner was due to Carlton. I think that was a mistake. Wrestling needs more inclusion rather than exclusion. More interesting stories make for more eyeballs on the sport.
I agree all div champs should be invited to D1 champs so we have a true champ!
wow 143 wins now days they are lucky to get 43 matches in 4 yrs!
I think AB had something like 84 bouts in his career.
Officially, isn’t Haselrig’s record 15-0 since they don’t count D2 and D3 bouts? Making him the first undefeated D1 wrestler in history?
