I have one thing to say today: Go Utes! Beat Michigan!
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I'm going to root for Michigan. An early season non conference loss immediately starts the conversation of how "weak" the Big 10 is. I'll also root for OSU at VT.
I think the SEC getting so many pre season ranked teams irked me. Would rather see Big 10 teams win the P5 non conference games to improve the perception of the league.
And it just moves us up higher in the rankings when we beat them
I think the SEC getting so many pre season ranked teams irked me. Would rather see Big 10 teams win the P5 non conference games to improve the perception of the league.
And it just moves us up higher in the rankings when we beat them
I want every team we play to be unbeaten at the time we play them. It will feel great when we end their perfect season
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Not me. I would love OSU to have 6 losses when we play them and add to their woes. Same with Michigan.
Yeah, I'm sure Michigan being good, just like Ohio State, will make Penn State better. I never believed that line of reasoning, yet many have it.I'm going to root for Michigan. An early season non conference loss immediately starts the conversation of how "weak" the Big 10 is. I'll also root for OSU at VT.
I think the SEC getting so many pre season ranked teams irked me. Would rather see Big 10 teams win the P5 non conference games to improve the perception of the league.
And it just moves us up higher in the rankings when we beat them
I'm with you Howie. If there is an impact regarding perception, it's marginal.
Go Utah! Michigan had top ranked recruiting classes in 2012 & 2013 so they have plenty of talent. They might be vulnerable early while they learn a new system and break in a new QB but I expect them to improve steadily as the year progresses. I wish we played them early.
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It's benefitted the SEC for years. Michigan and Ohio State being 'good' only matters if we beat them. And OSU winning last year is already changing perspectives - Scott Van Pelt on ESPN Radio this morning had OSU *and* Michigan State in the playoff with TCU and one of the Pac 12 teams.
But, ultimately it doesn't matter because our rooting for wins and losses has zero impact on anything.
They won't be the only team that improves as the year goes along. So will Penn State. And we get 'em at home. So don't get too nervous.
I would argue that the SEC benefits from geography more than reputation. Lots of good players in the south.
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Lots of good players in California and Texas too, but I don't see those schools getting the same benefit (at least to the same degree) as the SEC. Alabama, Florida, and Auburn winning MNC's has raised the bar for the conference. Never-were's like Mississippi, Miss. State, and Arkansas are suddenly contenders. Kentucky and Vandy are the lone 'never getting better' hold outs, but overall, the top schools winning have helped elevate the profile of the conference. Low academic standards and shady recruiting practices help too.
I think a lot of people are selling Michigan short. They struggled the past two years but look at their recruiting. UM's 2012 class was ranked 7th while PSU's class was ranked 57th. UM's 2013 class was ranked 5th while PSU's class was ranked 43rd. Those are the kids that will be playing this year. I expect Michigan to be a tough opponent.
My three favorite teams...
1) Penn State
2) Whoever is playing Ohio State
3) Whoever is playing Michigan
Looks like Utah is my third favorite team tonight!
1) Penn State
2) Whoever is playing Ohio State
3) Whoever is playing Michigan
Looks like Utah is my third favorite team tonight!
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Don't we recruit AGAINST those teams?
What's a more significant factor:
Some kid in PA/NJ/MD/VA who is considering PSU decides to NOT come to PSU .......because Michigan sucks?
Or:
Some kid in PA/NJ/MD/VA is considering PSU, but is also considering OSU/UM, and decides to go "there" - instead of PSU - because "they" are winning a lot of games.
GO UTES! GO HOKIES!
FWIW, I expect Michigan to top out at around 7 wins this year (they are on about the same overall growth trajectory that we are right now - albeit with different specific issues)
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The homer side of me wants to agree with you. However, player development both on the field and in the weight room was so abysmal that I think it will take some time. In addition, while on the surface it looks like Michigan recruited quite well there are a few key positions where it seems the past staff had zero eye for talent (in particular at qb and wr). With that said, I don't think this is one of those wait 3/4 years for the new staff to get their recruits in before you see some results situations. JH has some pieces to work with and the transformation (in particularly in the weight room) has already started. I expect this team to look much better at the end of the year than the start and much better next year than this year.
Michigan can die for all I care.
If every team in the B!G had a losing record and Penn State was undefeated, we would still be in the playoffs for two reasons ( really one ), Money !!
TV market share and the B!G has more money then any other Conference.
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If every team in the B!G had a losing record and Penn State was undefeated, we would still be in the playoffs for two reasons ( really one ), Money !!
TV market share and the B!G has more money then any other Conference.
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Yes, there is a risk of losing some players if OSU (of which I am a fan, just visiting your board), Michigan, and PSU are all good and recruiting the same prospects.
But having a strong conference and marquee games helps when recruiting nationally in the South, West Coast, and Texas; as well as recruits within the Big 10 footprint but are highly sought after by the SEC and other big time programs.
And if you want to be a force nationally you have to recruit nationally.
"OSU...of which I am a fan, just visiting your board"
OK then, that explains your viewpoint. I had assumed you were a PSU fan....or a college football fan.
I will NEVER root for Michigan or Ohio State. Remember Lavert Hill is watching how Michigan does this year. we do not need them to win!I'm going to root for Michigan. An early season non conference loss immediately starts the conversation of how "weak" the Big 10 is. I'll also root for OSU at VT.
I think the SEC getting so many pre season ranked teams irked me. Would rather see Big 10 teams win the P5 non conference games to improve the perception of the league.
And it just moves us up higher in the rankings when we beat them
Disagree. You're telling me that there are more good players in Alabama, with a population of 4.8 million, than in Pennsylvania with a population of 12.8 million? I don't think so.
The SEC benefits because they take players that other schools wouldn't take, play fast and loose with the rules, oversign and treat kids like crap, and put zero emphasis on academics.
