I hope CJF and Kraft submit a formal request to the B1G Commissioner asking for a formal inquiry into Joel Klatt's (FOX Sports) on-air statement....

[CJFisJoePaII]

.....that he and the FOX Sports crew were told by the B1G Officiating Crew that they "we're going to let them play today" implying that they were not going to call penalties regardless if Infractions occurred (and this is precisely when Klatt disclosed the statement - after both Liam Clifford and Tyler Warren were both blatantly held throughout their patterns and then were blatantly hit, and tackled, before the ball arrived during PSU's 2nd and 3rd consecutive offensive series (both on 3rd Down plays), Klatt identified both as clear and obvious penalties, but then explained the non-calls by what he, and the FOX Crew, were told by the B1G Officiating Representatives - "They said they were going to let them play today" and this probably explains why BOTH obvious Defensive Holding AND Pass Interference went uncalled to PSU's detriment.). The FOX Crew went on to identify 4 other penalties throughout the broadcast that "OSU probably got away with" while reviewing replays of big plays directly after they occurred.

CJF and Kraft should inquire who all the B1G Officiating Office Representatives told as to their intent not to enforce obvious infractions of the NCAA Rulebook - was Ohio State told of this intention?

Kraft and CJF should also inquire as to the Commissioner's and Head Of B1G Officiating what their formal position is on their Officiating Crews telling the B1G's Broadcast Company Affiliate that they don't intend to call penalties even if their obvious infractions? Also ask them of their formal position of their B1G Employees telling the B1G Broadcasting Company's Affiliate such a statement so they could use it during their B1G Broadcast to explain non-calls of obvious Rulebook Infractions.

 

[PSU210]

.....that he and the FOX Sports crew were told by the B1G Officiating Crew that they "we're going to let them play today" implying that they were not going to call penalties regardless if Infractions occurred (and this is precisely when Klatt disclosed the statement - after Tyler Warren was both blatantly held throughout his pattern and then then blatantly hit, and tackled, before the ball arrived, Klatt identified both as clear and obvious penalties, but then explained the non-calls by what he, and the FOX Crew, were told by the B1G Officiating Representatives - "They said they were going to let them play today" and this probably explains why BOTH obvious Defensive Holding AND Pass Interference went uncalled to PSU's detriment.

CJF and Kraft should inquire who all the B1G Officiating Office Representatives told as to their intent not to enforce obvious infractions of the NCAA Rulebook - was Ohio State told of this intention?

Kraft and CJF should also inquire as to the Commissioner's and Head Of B1G Officiating what their formal position is on their Officiating Crews telling the B1G's Broadcast Company Affiliate that they don't intend to call penalties even if their obvious infractions? Also ask them of their formal position of their B1G Employees telling the B1G Broadcasting Company's Affiliate such a statement so they could use it during their B1G Broadcast to explain non-calls of obvious Rulebook Infractions.

Give it a rest and stop whining.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Give it a rest and stop whining.

No, this is a rare occurrence in which he is correct. The team from the west of us is notorious for holding on the line and not getting called for it.

And our receivers were being ridden the entire routes 10-15 yards. They could have PI almost every time we passed.

The B2G sucks. We need to fight it tooth and nail or it will never stop.

 

[voltz99]

.....that he and the FOX Sports crew were told by the B1G Officiating Crew that they "we're going to let them play today" implying that they were not going to call penalties regardless if Infractions occurred (and this is precisely when Klatt disclosed the statement - after Tyler Warren was both blatantly held throughout his pattern and then then blatantly hit, and tackled, before the ball arrived during PSU's first series, Klatt identified both as clear and obvious penalties, but then explained the non-calls by what he, and the FOX Crew, were told by the B1G Officiating Representatives - "They said they were going to let them play today" and this probably explains why BOTH obvious Defensive Holding AND Pass Interference went uncalled to PSU's detriment.). The FOX Crew went on to identify 4 other penalties throughout the broadcast that "OSU probably got away with" while reviewing replays of big plays directly after they occurred.

CJF and Kraft should inquire who all the B1G Officiating Office Representatives told as to their intent not to enforce obvious infractions of the NCAA Rulebook - was Ohio State told of this intention?

Kraft and CJF should also inquire as to the Commissioner's and Head Of B1G Officiating what their formal position is on their Officiating Crews telling the B1G's Broadcast Company Affiliate that they don't intend to call penalties even if their obvious infractions? Also ask them of their formal position of their B1G Employees telling the B1G Broadcasting Company's Affiliate such a statement so they could use it during their B1G Broadcast to explain non-calls of obvious Rulebook Infractions.

Another question to ask is , did the BIG inform OSU? They told klatt so there is a chance they told OSU which would give OSU an advantage.

 

[PSU210]

No, this is a rare occurrence in which he is correct. The team from the west of us is notorious for holding on the line and not getting called for it.

And our receivers were being ridden the entire routes 10-15 yards. They could have PI almost every time we passed.

The B2G sucks. We need to fight it tooth and nail or it will never stop.

Two trips inside the 5, we didn't get it done. You want to stop complaining about holding? Get off the line of scrimmage and get separation. Their receivers did it. Then again, its like night and day there.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Two trips inside the 5, we didn't get it done. You want to stop complaining about holding? Get off the line of scrimmage and get separation. Their receivers did it. Then again, its like night and day there.

You are being incredibly stupid and obtuse.

There are rules to play the game for a reason . Playing by the rules affects the game. Playing beyond the rules affects the game.

You can make stupid comments like just score and it doesn’t matter but try thinking instead of posting tripe.

Perhaps the coaching staff was actually doing their jobs, watching how plays were playing out, saw our receivers were being ridden their entire routes, decided that with a very short field at the five yard line there was zero room for receivers to get free, so had to run the ball.

Watching your guys held all game affects what plays you call, what you emphasize, your overall philosophy.

 

[PurposePitch]

.....that he and the FOX Sports crew were told by the B1G Officiating Crew that they "we're going to let them play today" implying that they were not going to call penalties regardless if Infractions occurred (and this is precisely when Klatt disclosed the statement - after Tyler Warren was both blatantly held throughout his pattern and then then blatantly hit, and tackled, before the ball arrived during PSU's first series, Klatt identified both as clear and obvious penalties, but then explained the non-calls by what he, and the FOX Crew, were told by the B1G Officiating Representatives - "They said they were going to let them play today" and this probably explains why BOTH obvious Defensive Holding AND Pass Interference went uncalled to PSU's detriment.). The FOX Crew went on to identify 4 other penalties throughout the broadcast that "OSU probably got away with" while reviewing replays of big plays directly after they occurred.

CJF and Kraft should inquire who all the B1G Officiating Office Representatives told as to their intent not to enforce obvious infractions of the NCAA Rulebook - was Ohio State told of this intention?

Kraft and CJF should also inquire as to the Commissioner's and Head Of B1G Officiating what their formal position is on their Officiating Crews telling the B1G's Broadcast Company Affiliate that they don't intend to call penalties even if their obvious infractions? Also ask them of their formal position of their B1G Employees telling the B1G Broadcasting Company's Affiliate such a statement so they could use it during their B1G Broadcast to explain non-calls of obvious Rulebook Infractions.

Just so we're actually making factual statements, Klatt's commentary came after CLIFFORD, not Warren, had a guy pulling on him in the first half of his route and then arriving prematurely when the ball was en route on a failed 3rd down conversion. And Klatt's statement was "the officials telling me before the game, on the field, 'we wanna let them play'."

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

You are being incredibly stupid and obtuse.

There are rules to play the game for a reason . Playing by the rules affects the game. Playing beyond the rules affects the game.

You can make stupid comments like just score and it doesn’t matter but try thinking instead of posting tripe.

Perhaps the coaching staff was actually doing their jobs, watching how plays were playing out, saw our receivers were being ridden their entire routes, decided that with a very short field at the five yard line there was zero room for receivers to get free, so had to run the ball.

Watching your guys held all game affects what plays you call, what you emphasize, your overall philosophy.

The corrupt b1g Officials simply choosing to waive the Rulebook and not enforce blatant and obvious penalties effects the "integrity of the game" - then to tell the B1G's Broadcasting Company (and who knows who else) that you intend to do this so they can use it as an explanation when blatant infractions of the rules go uncalled is just spectacularly beyond the pail. Did the B1G Front Office and Officiating Office authorize this crew to make such ludicrous decisions that effects the very integrity of the game and outcome? Who else was told about this ludicrous decision to intentionally not enforce the rules? And what motivated such a stupid and ludicrous decision as the idea to not enforce blatant infractions of the Rules of Play?

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Just so we're actually making factual statements, Klatt's commentary came after CLIFFORD, not Warren, had a guy pulling on him in the first half of his route and then arriving prematurely when the ball was en route on a failed 3rd down conversion. And Klatt's statement was "the officials telling me before the game, on the field, 'we wanna let them play'."

Klatt also played a replay of the Warren play on the first PSU series and absolutely stated that he was clearly held throughout his pattern and then Interfered with while ball was in air and before it arrived - he stated that the Officials made no call on either penalty because they were "going to let them play today".

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

It seems the "let them play" idea extends now to Oregon, a teem that the conference would want to protect.

I watched the early part of the Oregon/Maryland game and could not believe what I was seeing. Maryland's receivers were getting absolutely mugged. No flags. Of course then the game got out of control.

 

[LandoComando]

No, this is a rare occurrence in which he is correct. The team from the west of us is notorious for holding on the line and not getting called for it.

And our receivers were being ridden the entire routes 10-15 yards. They could have PI almost every time we passed.

The B2G sucks. We need to fight it tooth and nail or it will never stop.

He's not correct. Our DBs do the same thing

 

[LandoComando]

It seems the "let them play" idea extends now to Oregon, a teem that the conference would want to protect.

I watched the early part of the Oregon/Maryland game and could not believe what I was seeing. Maryland's receivers were getting absolutely mugged. No flags. Of course then the game got out of control.

Refs should "let them play" in all games and generally do. We'd see a flag on every play otherwise.

 

[84Lion]

The B2G sucks. We need to fight it tooth and nail or it will never stop.

What Penn State needs to do is make it clear to the B1G that they are worth as much or more to the conference than UM or OSU.

In other words, We Are more than their whipping boy.

 

[PSU210]

You are being incredibly stupid and obtuse.

There are rules to play the game for a reason . Playing by the rules affects the game. Playing beyond the rules affects the game.

You can make stupid comments like just score and it doesn’t matter but try thinking instead of posting tripe.

Perhaps the coaching staff was actually doing their jobs, watching how plays were playing out, saw our receivers were being ridden their entire routes, decided that with a very short field at the five yard line there was zero room for receivers to get free, so had to run the ball.

Watching your guys held all game affects what plays you call, what you emphasize, your overall philosophy.

Thanks Coach Belichick

 

[The Spin Meister]

Thanks Coach Belechick

Glad I could help…..😉

 

[PSU210]

Glad I could help…..😉

I'm still jealous of your new girlfriend too!

 

[Jerry]

.....that he and the FOX Sports crew were told by the B1G Officiating Crew that they "we're going to let them play today" implying that they were not going to call penalties regardless if Infractions occurred (and this is precisely when Klatt disclosed the statement - after Tyler Warren was both blatantly held throughout his pattern and then then blatantly hit, and tackled, before the ball arrived during PSU's first series, Klatt identified both as clear and obvious penalties, but then explained the non-calls by what he, and the FOX Crew, were told by the B1G Officiating Representatives - "They said they were going to let them play today" and this probably explains why BOTH obvious Defensive Holding AND Pass Interference went uncalled to PSU's detriment.). The FOX Crew went on to identify 4 other penalties throughout the broadcast that "OSU probably got away with" while reviewing replays of big plays directly after they occurred.

CJF and Kraft should inquire who all the B1G Officiating Office Representatives told as to their intent not to enforce obvious infractions of the NCAA Rulebook - was Ohio State told of this intention?

Kraft and CJF should also inquire as to the Commissioner's and Head Of B1G Officiating what their formal position is on their Officiating Crews telling the B1G's Broadcast Company Affiliate that they don't intend to call penalties even if their obvious infractions? Also ask them of their formal position of their B1G Employees telling the B1G Broadcasting Company's Affiliate such a statement so they could use it during their B1G Broadcast to explain non-calls of obvious Rulebook Infractions.

As I commented in a couple other threads, that revelation by Joel Klatt was a huge red flag.

Ohio State has one of the best secondaries in the country...currently ranked #4 in yards allowed.

On the other side of the ball, our wide receivers are pretty far from an elite group.

To give Ohio State's superior secondary free rein to physically maul our less-than-superior receiving corps is to give the already favored Buckeyes a huge advantage. It basically cripples our passing game, which in turn cripples our offense.

Granted, we had opportunities to win the game and didn't capitalize. You can't put that on officiating. But I'm so tired of Big-10 zebras putting their thumbs on the scale in games like this.

 

[LandoComando]

As I commented in a couple other threads, that revelation by Joel Klatt was a huge red flag.

Ohio State has one of the best secondaries in the country...currently ranked #4 in yards allowed.

On the other side of the ball, our wide receivers are pretty far from an elite group.

To give Ohio State's superior secondary free rein to physically maul our less-than-superior receiving corps is to give the already favored Buckeyes a huge advantage. It basically cripples our passing game, which in turn cripples our offense.

Granted, we had opportunities to win the game and didn't capitalize. You can't put that on officiating. But I'm so tired of Big-10 zebras putting their thumbs on the scale in games like this.

Did you complain every time JPJ held someone? Our DBs are just as handsy as Ohio State's. They just aren't as good as them.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

You are being incredibly stupid and obtuse.

There are rules to play the game for a reason . Playing by the rules affects the game. Playing beyond the rules affects the game.

You can make stupid comments like just score and it doesn’t matter but try thinking instead of posting tripe.

Perhaps the coaching staff was actually doing their jobs, watching how plays were playing out, saw our receivers were being ridden their entire routes, decided that with a very short field at the five yard line there was zero room for receivers to get free, so had to run the ball.

Watching your guys held all game affects what plays you call, what you emphasize, your overall philosophy.

Apparently Jack Ham (an NFL HOFer - and is somewhat knowledgeable regarding the Rules, including the grey areas) stated several times during his broadcast that PSU receivers and PSU DE Carter were being beyond blatantly held on "an every play basis" by duhO$U and couldn't understand how there were zero flags (when there easily could have been double-digit flags).

 

[psu_andy]

.....that he and the FOX Sports crew were told by the B1G Officiating Crew that they "we're going to let them play today" implying that they were not going to call penalties regardless if Infractions occurred (and this is precisely when Klatt disclosed the statement - after Tyler Warren was both blatantly held throughout his pattern and then then blatantly hit, and tackled, before the ball arrived during PSU's first series, Klatt identified both as clear and obvious penalties, but then explained the non-calls by what he, and the FOX Crew, were told by the B1G Officiating Representatives - "They said they were going to let them play today" and this probably explains why BOTH obvious Defensive Holding AND Pass Interference went uncalled to PSU's detriment.). The FOX Crew went on to identify 4 other penalties throughout the broadcast that "OSU probably got away with" while reviewing replays of big plays directly after they occurred.

CJF and Kraft should inquire who all the B1G Officiating Office Representatives told as to their intent not to enforce obvious infractions of the NCAA Rulebook - was Ohio State told of this intention?

Kraft and CJF should also inquire as to the Commissioner's and Head Of B1G Officiating what their formal position is on their Officiating Crews telling the B1G's Broadcast Company Affiliate that they don't intend to call penalties even if their obvious infractions? Also ask them of their formal position of their B1G Employees telling the B1G Broadcasting Company's Affiliate such a statement so they could use it during their B1G Broadcast to explain non-calls of obvious Rulebook Infractions.

I thought it was a little convenient that osu played cover 0 on that 3rd down where they mugged clifford and no penalty

 

[doctornick]

What Penn State needs to do is make it clear to the B1G that they are worth as much or more to the conference than UM or OSU.

In other words, We Are more than their whipping boy.

I mean, I think we generally do get favorable calls in recent years again teams other than UM/tOSU (we had the period post-Sandusky when that was not the case). IOW, I think to whatever degree it exists, we probably have "favored team status" just not "most favored".

That being said, they should just call a game evenly and by the rule book. There should be zero reason for any team to feel like the other team is getting the benefit of the doubt, nor should there be a reason for refs to "let them play" and not call penalties that should be penalties.

 

[psulongago]

No, this is a rare occurrence in which he is correct. The team from the west of us is notorious for holding on the line and not getting called for it.

And our receivers were being ridden the entire routes 10-15 yards. They could have PI almost every time we passed.

The B2G sucks. We need to fight it tooth and nail or it will never stop.

Let's see what happens to Oregon in the playoff, no way OSU loses to Indiana. No one will watch an Oregon - Indiana playoff. Need that TV $$$

 

[johnmpsu]

Apparently Jack Ham (an NFL HOFer - and is somewhat knowledgeable regarding the Rules, including the grey areas) stated several times during his broadcast that PSU receivers and PSU DE Carter were being beyond blatantly held on "an every play basis" by duhO$U and couldn't understand how there were zero flags (when there easily could have been double-digit flags).

It's sop and how officials largely control the outcome of a game. Whether it's corruption or simply bias doesn't really matter. My personal feeling is that it is largely corruption but there is no way to prove it.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

I thought it was a little convenient that osu played cover 0 on that 3rd down where they mugged clifford and no penalty

Yet you have dipshit HandjoCommando claiming we got away with the same when FOX stated five different, and separate, times that duhO$U got away with uncalled penalties while reviewing big plays that were either failed or successful in duhO$U's favor. Klatt used the we were told "they're going to let them play" multiple times as an explanation for the blatant non-calls.... Klatt and FOX never said one time that PSU "got away with a penalty there" - not once. But dipshit is a PSU fan - don't you know. LMFAO

 

[PurposePitch]

Klatt also played a replay of the Warren play on the first PSU series and absolutely stated that he was clearly held throughout his pattern and then Interfered with while ball was in air and before it arrived - he stated that the Officials made no call on either penalty because they were "going to let them play today".

When, exactly, did he do this? It certainly wasn't during the first series.

The commentary I referenced, which is word for word, based on actual viewing of the game ... regarding Clifford ... was in the 2nd series.

You might be getting confused .. on the 3rd series there's a play where they target Warren and he doesn't come up with it, partly because we have 2 guys within steps of each other downfield for some silly reason ... they talk about the contact and say "this is another physical effort from these defensive backs ... again, they're letting them play" .... they go on to break the play down and say "this contact right here is obviously not going to draw a flag."

You appear to be getting yourself jumbled. Calm down and get your poo together.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Let's see what happens to Oregon in the playoff, no way OSU loses to Indiana. No one will watch an Oregon - Indiana playoff. Need that TV $$$

Look duhO$U struggled mightily at home against an average at best Nebraska team and the corrupt b2g Officials stepped in as per usual. They aren't going to wait and see how Indiana does - they're going to allow duhO$U to blatantly hold and mug Indiana along the duhO$U OL and in the duhO$U Defensive Secondary.... from the get go just like PSU. They aren't going to wait and see how Indiana does playing under the actual Rulebook.

 

[scrivener]

I guess people forget how we benefited not once but twice in that OT @ USC...when anyone without blue and white glasses can say that both were easy PI's 99 times out of 100. Usually, like in baseball, if the ump misses a pitch, you better not take the next one b/c you'll get rung up. We got away with both. if one gets called, we likely have two losses. We need a little balance and perspective here.

 

[LandoComando]

Yet you have dipshit HandjoCommando claiming we got away with the same when FOX stated five different, and separate, times that duhO$U got away with uncalled penalties while reviewing big plays that were either failed or successful in duhO$U's favor. Klatt used the we were told "they're going to let them play" multiple times as an explanation for the blatant non-calls.... Klatt and FOX never said one time that PSU "got away with a penalty there" - not once. But dipshit is a PSU fan - don't you know. LMFAO

We did--we played handsy defense and our OL held on every play like they did
Klatt literally said "they let them play" which is both sides not one.
Being a Penn State fan isn't blaming the refs--or shouldn't be
Literally it's all you post about

 

[LandoComando]

I guess people forget how we benefited not once but twice in that OT @ USC...when anyone without blue and white glasses can say that both were easy PI's 99 times out of 100. Usually, like in baseball, if the ump misses a pitch, you better not take the next one b/c you'll get rung up. We got away with both. if one gets called, we have likely have two losses. We need a little balance and perspective here.

They don't care about that because it benefitted us--they only see calls they think don't go in our favor.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

When, exactly, did he do this? It certainly wasn't during the first series.

I just rewatched the replay (I have Peacock), he says it the first time when Liam Clifford is blatantly held and then Interferred with during PSU's 2nd offensive possession (on 3rd Down). He then says it a second time on PSU's next Offensive possession on a 3rd Down pass to Tyler Warren - Klatt says it while commenting on replay of the pass play first saying that Warren is clearly held first and then also clearly Interferred with.... and explains the blatant non-calls by saying that again "they're going to let them play today".

PSU had a 14 play 63 yard scoring drive (FG) on 1st possession where Allar was 3 for 3 for 27 yards. PSU went 3-and-out on their next two offensive possessions with blatant defensive holding and pass interference going uncalled on 3rd down each time - and FOX stating that both 3rd Down failed passes involved obvious uncalled penalties on duhO$U (and the explanation that this is what the FOX Crew was told would happen [flags would be kept in pocket... "they're going to let them play"] as an explanation for the non-calls.). Things that make you go hhhmmm......

 

[fastlax16]

Refs should "let them play" in all games and generally do. We'd see a flag on every play otherwise.

Letting them play isn’t really the issue.

Someone from the league communicating an officiating strategy to the media before the game (if it actually happened) is highly inappropriate and an issue. If someone from the league actually told Klatt they were going to call it tight it would be equally problematic.

I also don’t remember him saying it during or before the broadcast so wouldn’t mind hearing the sound bite if anyone has it.

 

[LandoComando]

I just rewatched the replay (I have Peacock), he says it the first time when Liam Clifford is blatantly held and then Interferred with during PSU's 2nd offensive possession (on 3rd Down). He then says it a second time on PSU's next Offensive possession on a 3rd Down pass to Tyler Warren - Klatt says it while commenting on replay of the pass play first saying that Warren is clearly held first and then also clearly Interferred with.... and explains the blatant non-calls by saying that again "they're going to let them play today".

PSU had a 14 play 63 yard scoring drive (FG) on 1st possession where Allar was 3 for 3 for 27 yards. PSU went 3-and-out on their next two offensive possessions with blatant defensive holding and pass interference going uncalled on 3rd down each time - and FOX stating that both 3rd Down failed passes involved obvious uncalled penalties on duhO$U (and the explanation that this is what the FOX Crew was told would happen [flags would be kept in pocket... "they're going to let them play"] as an explanation for the non-calls.). Things that make you go hhhmmm......

Things that make you go...that's what they're supposed to do

 

[LandoComando]

Letting them play isn’t really the issue.

Someone from the league communicating an officiating strategy to the media before the game (if it actually happened) is highly inappropriate and an issue. If someone from the league told Klatt they were going to call it tight it would be equally problematic.

The league should constantly be reminding the refs of this. For all anyone knows this was said to them because of calls made the prior week. There's nothing problematic about it.

 

[fastlax16]

I just rewatched the replay (I have Peacock), he says it the first time when Liam Clifford is blatantly held and then Interferred with during PSU's 2nd offensive possession (on 3rd Down). He then says it a second time on PSU's next Offensive possession on a 3rd Down pass to Tyler Warren - Klatt says it while commenting on replay of the pass play first saying that Warren is clearly held first and then also clearly Interferred with.... and explains the blatant non-calls by saying that again "they're going to let them play today".

PSU had a 14 play 63 yard scoring drive (FG) on 1st possession where Allar was 3 for 3 for 27 yards. PSU went 3-and-out on their next two offensive possessions with blatant defensive holding and pass interference going uncalled on 3rd down each time - and FOX stating that both 3rd Down failed passes involved obvious uncalled penalties on duhO$U (and the explanation that this is what the FOX Crew was told would happen [flags would be kept in pocket... "they're going to let them play"] as an explanation for the non-calls.). Things that make you go hhhmmm......

Can you post the video and the time he says it? Or post it set to start at that point?

 

[fastlax16]

The league should constantly be reminding the refs of this. For all anyone knows this was said to them because of calls made the prior week. There's nothing problematic about it.

For all anyone knows it wasn’t said to them because of calls made the prior week. You’re just making the assumption, it’s a reasonable one, but it’s still an assumption.

 

[doctornick]

I guess people forget how we benefited not once but twice in that OT @ USC...when anyone without blue and white glasses can say that both were easy PI's 99 times out of 100. Usually, like in baseball, if the ump misses a pitch, you better not take the next one b/c you'll get rung up. We got away with both. if one gets called, we likely have two losses. We need a little balance and perspective here.

The first one was borderline and was reasonable to let pass, the second was a clear PI. Still, it's worth noting that even if one or the other were called doesn't mean we lose that game - USC would still have had to score and we still would have had a series to respond.

 

[LandoComando]

For all anyone knows it wasn’t said to them because of calls made the prior week. You’re just making the assumption, it’s a reasonable one, but it’s still an assumption.

And that's the point--we don't know why it was said so it's not a red flag.
And, I still maintain, this should be said to them before every game. People complain if the refs call the game too tight, if they don't call it tight enough, if they miss something that's impossible to see live at the game with out the benefit of the angles and everything we have. Spotting the ball is infinitely easier on TV.
Complaining about the refs is, IMO, ridiculous. It's just bitching to bitch. Like every other fan base tells you the refs favor us.

 

[bvillebaron]

Did you complain every time JPJ held someone? Our DBs are just as handsy as Ohio State's. They just aren't as good as them.

Bull

 

[LandoComando]

Bull

So, you don't believe our CBs use their hands in man coverage? You don't believe what we saw from Ohio State that week is what they're taught to do. Go back and watch JPJ while he was here. He was an elite, shutdown CB because of his ability to impede receivers with his hands. He still does it in the NFL and gets caught out of position once or twice a game drawing a penalty but if the CB is in position they never call it. It's only when they get beat and grab--just like OL--only outside

 

[The Spin Meister]

As I commented in a couple other threads, that revelation by Joel Klatt was a huge red flag.

Ohio State has one of the best secondaries in the country...currently ranked #4 in yards allowed.

On the other side of the ball, our wide receivers are pretty far from an elite group.

To give Ohio State's superior secondary free rein to physically maul our less-than-superior receiving corps is to give the already favored Buckeyes a huge advantage. It basically cripples our passing game, which in turn cripples our offense.

Granted, we had opportunities to win the game and didn't capitalize. You can't put that on officiating. But I'm so tired of Big-10 zebras putting their thumbs on the scale in games like this.

Agree totally….except that instead of ‘thumb on the scale’ it’s more like foot on our throats.