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I shouldn't, but you've got to read this Lair thread.

When? I don't go on there very often, but when I do I see nonsense all the time directed at PSU and no one rejects it...in fact, they embrace it and add to it.


Well since you asked LOL....a very recent thread discussing Pitt's consensus
All American, Henderson (kick returner and wide receiver). The AA status is as a
kick returner. Long story short, a few posters stated that because of his consensus status, he is therfeore better than Barkley.
I and others took the poster to task saying that consensus or not, there's no way
he's better than Barkley. I actually had a few posts in that thread explaining that Henderson may be quicker, but that Barkley is fast (maybe not as quick), stronger,
and is an every down back, Also that he's probably the best back in America, and will
be in the Heisman running whereas Henderson will not.
So, there you are....you asked "where and when." That my friend is factual, not unguided opinion.
 
Well since you asked LOL....a very recent thread discussing Pitt's consensus
All American, Henderson (kick returner and wide receiver). The AA status is as a
kick returner. Long story short, a few posters stated that because of his consensus status, he is therfeore better than Barkley.
I and others took the poster to task saying that consensus or not, there's no way
he's better than Barkley. I actually had a few posts in that thread explaining that Henderson may be quicker, but that Barkley is fast (maybe not as quick), stronger,
and is an every down back, Also that he's probably the best back in America, and will
be in the Heisman running whereas Henderson will not.
So, there you are....you asked "where and when." That my friend is factual, not unguided opinion.
Look I have no problem with football related back and forth between fans that is fun but when SOME people on your board go right to the Pedo attacks that's when some people really show how stupid they are - that is why many people here really look down on Pitt as if those clowns are a true representation of your overall fan base which of course they can't be since we haven't built nearly enough mental institutions to house them all if they were.
 
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Look I have no problem with football related back and forth between fans that is fun but when SOME people on your board go right to the Pedo attacks that's when some people really show how stupid they are - that is why many people here really look down on Pitt as if those clowns are a true representation of your overall fan base which of course they can't be since we haven't built nearly enough mental institutions to house them all if they were.

Your response shows that instead of staying with the thread, you can only view issues from the PSU angle.. I pointed out some inaccurate and negative responses right here in this thread. You choose to ignore those and immediately go into attack mode about the Pedo remarks.
Let's look at your explanation from a different viewpoint. How about...why so many people over there look down on SOME PSU fans who come across as cultists. Those PSU fans that fit this description are really not a true representation of YOUR fan base
even though many come across that way to a far larger group than what's on the lair.
Again..look at this very thread and how your fellow posters hi jacked it and turned it into what you just criticized about the lair.
 
Your response shows that instead of staying with the thread, you can only view issues from the PSU angle.. I pointed out some inaccurate and negative responses right here in this thread. You choose to ignore those and immediately go into attack mode about the Pedo remarks.
Let's look at your explanation from a different viewpoint. How about...why so many people over there look down on SOME PSU fans who come across as cultists. Those PSU fans that fit this description are really not a true representation of YOUR fan base
even though many come across that way to a far larger group than what's on the lair.
Again..look at this very thread and how your fellow posters hi jacked it and turned it into what you just criticized about the lair.
I love the cultist name calling. What exactly makes one a cultist? Someone who supports their school? Someone who likes Joe Paterno? I've lived in WV and KY as well as PA and I can promise you, WVU fans and U.K. fans are waaayyy more cult like than PSU fans. When 90% of your state is a fan of one school and raise their kids to be fans of that school, almost any that go to college end up going to that school, and treat the stars of the team like royalty throughout the state, that's a cult. I've never seen nearly as many PSU shirts and hats as I have WVU and U.K. in terms of a percentage of population.
 
Good explanation....and like I said..."those that fit that description are really not a true representation of your fan base." The few who do, make it the norm for the group that likes to generalize. It happens on BOTH boards.
 
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Good explanation....and like I said..."those that fit that description are really not a true representation of your fan base." The few who do, make it the norm for te group that likes to generalize. It happens on BOTH boards.
Nobody fits that description...it's a term some hater coined to explain people who support Penn State. How many Bama fans would support Bama in their biggest hour of need? How many Bama fans still wear Bear Bryant hats? Are they called cultists? No, they're just called die hard fans. But Penn State fans are cultists. It's a joke term that applies to no one. There are a$$holes in our fan base (just like all fan bases) but no cultists.
 
So Chescat is the Great Captain Cindy Reilly a true representative of the Pitt fan base?????????You people over there treat him like a God,you guys worship his every word,it's really weird!He isn't your dad is he?
 
So Chescat is the Great Captain Cindy Reilly a true representative of the Pitt fan base?????????You people over there treat him like a God,you guys worship his every word,it's really weird!He isn't your dad is he?

Actually he gets taken to task quite a bit. I've both agreed and disagreed with him.
He tends to go on and on when he makes a point...but one thing that might surprise you
is he always saying how much he likes and respects where PSU is now, post sanctions
 
Chescat it isn't what the Great Captain says about post sanctions that irritates me.It's his comments about Joe, Joe's hindsight comment,that damn Clery Act and how Freeh single handedly straightened out Penn State.I personally think he drinks too much and this has an affect on his comments.Ches I live 6 miles from Morgantown and have season tickets to both Wvu basketball and Psu football.I can honestly say Wvu fans are way more of a cult that PSU fans are,not even close. I love your Steel Curtain character,he is the most positive fan on Earth,plus he runs a 4.3 40!!!
 
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Chescat it isn't what the Great Captain says about post sanctions that irritates me.It's his comments about Joe, Joe's hindsight comment,that damn Clery Act and how Freeh single handedly straightened out Penn State.I personally think he drinks too much and this has an affect on his comments.Ches I live 6 miles from Morgantown and have season tickets to both Wvu basketball and Psu football.I can honestly say Wvu fans are way more of a cult that PSU fans are,not even close. I love your Steel Curtain character,he is the most positive fan on Earth,plus he runs a 4.3 40!!!


Steelcurtain ...LOL. His analysis of Pitt football is basically discounted by other posters.
Listen to him and Pitt has several players running 4.4, and All Americans at several positions.
 
Actually he gets taken to task quite a bit. I've both agreed and disagreed with him.
He tends to go on and on when he makes a point...but one thing that might surprise you
is he always saying how much he likes and respects where PSU is now, post sanctions
That's a load of crap - he is worshiped over there especially when he goes on his rant about how PSU Thon is a scam and the jagoffs over there 100% agree. You can't leave an event that is trying to find a cure for pediatric cancer alone without making up crap to run it down just because it is a PSU event - I can't even fathom how pathetic that is. Look if you want to talk PSU and Pitt sports fine but don's try to sell me that 99% of the idiots on the liar aren't a delusional bunch of PSU haters and that is the only reason they get out of bed in the morning. You guys really need to get a life and while we have some out there posters they don't compare to the total scum bags you have on your board so don't even try to compare it, that just shows how much of a tool you really are.
 
Well since you asked LOL....a very recent thread discussing Pitt's consensus
All American, Henderson (kick returner and wide receiver). The AA status is as a
kick returner. Long story short, a few posters stated that because of his consensus status, he is therfeore better than Barkley.
I and others took the poster to task saying that consensus or not, there's no way
he's better than Barkley. I actually had a few posts in that thread explaining that Henderson may be quicker, but that Barkley is fast (maybe not as quick), stronger,
and is an every down back, Also that he's probably the best back in America, and will
be in the Heisman running whereas Henderson will not.
So, there you are....you asked "where and when." That my friend is factual, not unguided opinion.
I know this post well, but it grew bigger. By the end of the thread, you had a better backfield, wr's, and 2 of your QB's were really gonna be good. Fact is, Brown looked awful, and your offense is going to struggle. Don't get me started on the Ped bullsh$t, it's never ending and you know it. I'm a premium member there, but I won't renew because that crap is encouraged.

I'll tell you straight up, your mods and Rivals shouldn't allow it. Your board constantly fuels lies, and horrible treatment of posters. Your paid board is becoming the same way. Don't believe it, I've seen days where 50% of your first page is PENN STATE posts. That's absurd.
 
So Chescat is the Great Captain Cindy Reilly a true representative of the Pitt fan base?????????You people over there treat him like a God,you guys worship his every word,it's really weird!He isn't your dad is he?

personally I think he is out in left field to be honest. He is the only Pitt person I have on ignore. So to answer your question NO!!. Both schools have lots of accomplishments to be proud of and I personally do not take small samplings of message board fodder as a representation of a teams true fan base. I feel its perfectly fine to rout for your team on a board but be open and objective. Football talk is fun and yes fans think their players are better than rivals players. I did get a kick out of the Henderson/Barkley thread both GREAT players but in different aspects of the game. Don't take what your read as Pitt's fan base. I personally have lots of PSU friends, I do a ton of work in the area and enjoy St.College. Looking forward to possibly tossing a few back with folks in September
 
Pitt is an endless procession of imbeciles that subscribe to the notion Joe was a pedo enabler, he covered up for Jer, PSU is a disgrace, Pitt has 9 NCs, Pitt cured Polio, and it goes on and on with these jackos.

Tony DOORstop and Danny Marweeno are heroes worthy of anal tonguing.
 
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After this mini-series ends up 3-1 in our favor, I hope we never play them again. Our fans won't want to, their fans won't want to, and our financial people won't want to. Only their bean counters will still be in favor.
 
Hilarious how this thread takes a life of its own. The OP starts off with what began as a Pittsburgh sports section article stating how PSU was using the 2017 Pitt game to show off its Big 10 championship.Personally I have no problem with that, and think PSU should flash its championship for one and all to see.. If they decide to do it early in the season, again...no problem. If it's the second game against Pitt, instead of Akron in game one, again...makes sense to me.
The OP then shows how some PItt posters reacted to the article with their anti PSU venom. Most of us over there reject that nonsense when we see it. Of course look what happens HERE with this thread....basically the same.Take a look at some of your own lol...Pitt "never a national championship"...."they cheated their way to the 1976 championship." Pitt is a second tier opponent." "Pitt fans are fat...98% of them." The list goes on and on LOL.
OK...I made fun of nobody here, praised PSU's championship and its choice to show it off
whenever they want, and quoted a few miscues...... I haven't posted here in awhile, but last time I did, my objective comments pissed of many of your members who retorted
with the venom that the Lair is accused of. Let's see what happens with this one.
I can only speak to my own experience with your board. A couple of years ago, one of "yours" came over here with some disparaging remarks about the Penn State QB (Hack at the time) and team in general. Discussion went to how he was permitted to post his crap here but we could not do the same. So I performed the experiment: I copied his exact post, changed Hack's name to that of your QB (I had to look it up), changed Penn State to Pittsburgh, Lions to Panthers and posted it over there. I was banned in 34 minutes and have been ever since. That is how I judge your ilk.
Apologies for the apparent venom.
 
I can only speak to my own experience with your board. A couple of years ago, one of "yours" came over here with some disparaging remarks about the Penn State QB (Hack at the time) and team in general. Discussion went to how he was permitted to post his crap here but we could not do the same. So I performed the experiment: I copied his exact post, changed Hack's name to that of your QB (I had to look it up), changed Penn State to Pittsburgh, Lions to Panthers and posted it over there. I was banned in 34 minutes and have been ever since. That is how I judge your ilk.
Apologies for the apparent venom.
Funny you say that. I was banned and broke no board rules. I then had inform them I was a premium member to get reinstated. As a Mod, I try not to ban outside members. That said, they're welcome for polite banter as long as they don't cross the line. Unfortunately, people come here with hateful posts under numerous names. I also don't like when posters here go over the line. I would think after a while they would get tired of it, but they appear to thrive on it.
 
That's a load of crap - he is worshiped over there especially when he goes on his rant about how PSU Thon is a scam and the jagoffs over there 100% agree. You can't leave an event that is trying to find a cure for pediatric cancer alone without making up crap to run it down just because it is a PSU event - I can't even fathom how pathetic that is. Look if you want to talk PSU and Pitt sports fine but don's try to sell me that 99% of the idiots on the liar aren't a delusional bunch of PSU haters and that is the only reason they get out of bed in the morning. You guys really need to get a life and while we have some out there posters they don't compare to the total scum bags you have on your board so don't even try to compare it, that just shows how much of a tool you really are.

I give you a different look to this thread that doesn't agree with your narrative and look how you respond....anger, nastiness, and name calling. If all you say about Pitt posters is true, take a look at yourself and how you responded right here. Oh, that's right..this is
a PSU board so it's ok...yeah right.
 
I can only speak to my own experience with your board. A couple of years ago, one of "yours" came over here with some disparaging remarks about the Penn State QB (Hack at the time) and team in general. Discussion went to how he was permitted to post his crap here but we could not do the same. So I performed the experiment: I copied his exact post, changed Hack's name to that of your QB (I had to look it up), changed Penn State to Pittsburgh, Lions to Panthers and posted it over there. I was banned in 34 minutes and have been ever since. That is how I judge your ilk.
Apologies for the apparent venom.


Good point...now in the same spirit, look at my "experience" with your board in this very thread....nastiness, anger, name calling, etc.
 
After this mini-series ends up 3-1 in our favor, I hope we never play them again. Our fans won't want to, their fans won't want to, and our financial people won't want to. Only their bean counters will still be in favor.


For years, I'm talking years after we played them in 2000 and no longer were in the same conference or even scheduled to play Pitt, at the end of a song, they would chant, "Penn State sucks." That's how much we were in their heads.

I wonder what opposing fans thought when they played Pitt and heard that about a non-conference opponent Pitt no longer played yet was in their heads.
 
Good point...now in the same spirit, look at my "experience" with your board in this very thread....nastiness, anger, name calling, etc.
But you're here to see the "nastiness, anger, name calling, etc." that I and our entire board is apparently heaping on you. I have no idea how your buddies responded to my post over there.
 
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Go back and suck Peak's ass, you worthless fool. You ingratiating at simple is useless. Get OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now that you've told us how you really feel, you might want to get your head out of your ass and try a normal discourse. All you've done is show your fellow board members that posters like yourself can't see beyond the hate.
 
Now that you've told us how you really feel, you might want to get your head out of your ass and try a normal discourse. All you've done is show your fellow board members that posters like yourself can't see beyond the hate.


Just yours, sheep in wolf's clothing.
 
Hilarious how this thread takes a life of its own. The OP starts off with what began as a Pittsburgh sports section article stating how PSU was using the 2017 Pitt game to show off its Big 10 championship.Personally I have no problem with that, and think PSU should flash its championship for one and all to see.. If they decide to do it early in the season, again...no problem. If it's the second game against Pitt, instead of Akron in game one, again...makes sense to me.
The OP then shows how some PItt posters reacted to the article with their anti PSU venom. Most of us over there reject that nonsense when we see it. Of course look what happens HERE with this thread....basically the same.Take a look at some of your own lol...Pitt "never a national championship"...."they cheated their way to the 1976 championship." Pitt is a second tier opponent." "Pitt fans are fat...98% of them." The list goes on and on LOL.
OK...I made fun of nobody here, praised PSU's championship and its choice to show it off
whenever they want, and quoted a few miscues...... I haven't posted here in awhile, but last time I did, my objective comments pissed of many of your members who retorted
with the venom that the Lair is accused of. Let's see what happens with this one.

You don't understand that when we do it, we are making fun of you... it's called parody.

Oh, and I specifically said NCAA national title, which is a true statement. Words have meaning, please read more carefully next time.
 
Now that you've told us how you really feel, you might want to get your head out of your ass and try a normal discourse. All you've done is show your fellow board members that posters like yourself can't see beyond the hate.

I guess my issue with the lair is the non-stop use of the word pedo with any thread involving Penn State. The stance of caring about victims and making non stop child sexual abuse jokes is disgusting. Being called a cultist, a pedo or child sexual abuse enabler is different than being called fat or a tool.. it's as offensive as a racial slur in my opinion. Being associated with Penn State and being called one of the most vile things a person could be called because of it? The choice is to ignore it or confront it. I have good friends that went to Pitt or are Pitt fans. We've been talking trash for years and that's not part of it and we really don't have a "line" drawn for what's appropriate or not appropriate in anything we say. Sports hate is one thing. Personal hatred is just not acceptable. I am shocked it's allowed on a public forum. Rutgers is on the same level with their forum.
 
Opening day is a draw itself, it doesn't need a second gimmick. There is all-U day, homecoming, the whiteout game, etc.

They fail to recognize the fact that Pitt is a second tier opponent, and PSU needs to incentivize fans to attend another crappy OOC game, especially when it's one of the worst fan bases in CFB visiting... who no one wants to be around.
Pitt won the game last season. Don't allow that little fact to get in your way. I hate the lousy bastards as much as anyone, but the Lions haven't beaten them since 1999. That's a lot of bragging rights time. I want the Lions to totally maul them. Beat them like a red headed step child.
Shut up, and do it.
 
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I give you a different look to this thread that doesn't agree with your narrative and look how you respond....anger, nastiness, and name calling. If all you say about Pitt posters is true, take a look at yourself and how you responded right here. Oh, that's right..this is
a PSU board so it's ok...yeah right.
Well you are not banned here are you? The stuff here is milk toast compared to what goes on over there and if you don't see it then that's your issue - The level of hatred you guys seem to have for PSU is nuts so if you think what you have seen here in any way compares have a coke and a smile and give yourself another National Championship.
 
Pitt won the game last season. Don't allow that little fact to get in your way. I hate the lousy bastards as much as anyone, but the Lions haven't beaten them since 1999. That's a lot of bragging rights time. I want the Lions to totally maul them. Beat them like a red headed step child.
Shut up, and do it.

PSU & Pitt have played twice since 1999- don't make it sound like PSU has lost to Pitt 17 years in a row. The last 2 games were in Pittsburgh and on one of those years, PSU finished 5-7 so it is not as if Pitt beat some great PSU team that season.
 
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PSU & Pitt have played twice since 1999- don't make it sound like PSU has lost to Pitt 17 years in a row. The last 2 games were in Pittsburgh and on one of those years, PSU finished 5-7 so it is not as if Pitt beat some great PSU team that season.

They don't bring up that Penn State won the previous seven meetings against Pitt before they won over a bad Penn State team in 2000. So they've won 2 of the last 9 games against Penn State.
 
Pitt won the game last season. Don't allow that little fact to get in your way. I hate the lousy bastards as much as anyone, but the Lions haven't beaten them since 1999. That's a lot of bragging rights time. I want the Lions to totally maul them. Beat them like a red headed step child.
Shut up, and do it.

And went on to do absolutely nothing in the worst P5 division. Pitt also won in 1976, also equally irrelevant to the 2017 season.

Last year was a complete fluke thanks to the unjust sanctions and the only other time they played since 1999 was against one of the worst PSU teams of all times. They've benefitted from circumstance. No fan in the world would trade places with Pitt for those two insignificant OOC wins.
 
My opinion is that anyone who can post on the Lair, and is not banned, is a PSU supporter in disguise. And a poor one, at that.​
 
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