IOWA @ ISU - 3:00 PM ET
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Caught on late so only watched from Brands on, but that Brands Colbray match is worth catching and demonstrated that Brands will be a force. Not sure that the TD they gave him on replay was actually a TD but it's not like Colbray came any closer. Colbray only need to ride for 15 more seconds in the third and he'd have gotten the win in regulation.
I liked in OT brands stood center circle and just held position. Didnt run. Didnt skate. Just like bring it on.
I really think he will be a force for 4 years. It will be fun watching the dynamic play out between the family.
Shame for iowa that they didnt grey shirt him last year and RS him this year. That said maybe they knew they would need him this year.
I really think he will be a force for 4 years. It will be fun watching the dynamic play out between the family.
Shame for iowa that they didnt grey shirt him last year and RS him this year. That said maybe they knew they would need him this year.
Was at the meet and they announcesd 1 point team deduction. At least that's what was announced.
Hall is better than Kemerer. Kemerer plays right into his strengths
I thought the locked hands was after the backpoints.
174 is no toss-up.
Much more likely that 157 is a tossup with a healthy Berge.
Much more likely that 157 is a tossup with a healthy Berge.
Thanks -- I initially thought that was the case, but then didn't think the posted match score reflected it. I must have been bad on my math.
Kemerer, while very good, doesn't seem to be as technically sound as Hall. He'll need quick, crisp, airtight technique to secure takedowns on Hall -- from what I've seen of him the past 2 weeks, he is not there yet. Takes way too much time to manufacture the leverage he needs to finish off those low singles. Hall will capitalize on that if Kemerer tries it.
Some fun matches in this dual and yes, Iowa is a force this year! Few notes...
-Talk crap all we want, but they do seem to do well with those lightweights in the Iowa room!
-I wasn’t surprised that Carr won today, but I was surprised to see him break a tie late in the third to take it - lots of composure for the freshman!
-I’ve watched Brands last two matches now and I can’t help but like the guy, he is a tough dude and doesn’t seem like he’ll back down from anyone! He’s fun to watch!
-Iowa has some depth - Happel looked pretty good today and it looks like Wilke is now 2nd string. Add Cashman, Teasdale, and some others I’m sure, they seam to even be ok if they get dinged up here or there.
-Talk crap all we want, but they do seem to do well with those lightweights in the Iowa room!
-I wasn’t surprised that Carr won today, but I was surprised to see him break a tie late in the third to take it - lots of composure for the freshman!
-I’ve watched Brands last two matches now and I can’t help but like the guy, he is a tough dude and doesn’t seem like he’ll back down from anyone! He’s fun to watch!
-Iowa has some depth - Happel looked pretty good today and it looks like Wilke is now 2nd string. Add Cashman, Teasdale, and some others I’m sure, they seam to even be ok if they get dinged up here or there.
Sooo many variables... Shak, Conel, Beard, Berge, ADDS, Leavesdale, Brands. Skin checks, long bus rides,duckings,psycho coaches,average officials to be had,stall calls,forfeits...etc etc. Cant wait
More like:
25 Strong Iowa
33 Iowa
41 Strong PSU
49 Strong Iowa
57 Toss-up (Berge)
65 Toss-up (though I like Cenzo)
74 PSU
84 Strong PSU
98 Toss-up (Beard)
HW Strong PSU
That's 4 PSU, 3 Iowa, 3 toss-ups
It's gonna be FUN!
25 Strong Iowa
33 Iowa
41 Strong PSU
49 Strong Iowa
57 Toss-up (Berge)
65 Toss-up (though I like Cenzo)
74 PSU
84 Strong PSU
98 Toss-up (Beard)
HW Strong PSU
That's 4 PSU, 3 Iowa, 3 toss-ups
It's gonna be FUN!
Their poor Mom. Those two must have trashed every piece of furniture in the house as they went at each other.
In case it isn't fully clear to someone--Nelson is Terry's son.
In response to Brands being the next 84 national champion should have said Brooks not Brook.
Huh? Without the locked hands he gives up that reversal and is down 5-2 without riding time, meaning he would need an escape and takedown just to force OT. The only reason he was able to take Lugo to his back was because he did something illegal lol.
Ridiculous. Main ref missed it, but the assistant signaled for it immediately and informed the main ref when the action stopped. Then they went back and looked at it to make sure. That situation was handled perfectly.
The entire time Lugo was on his back I was rooting for him to call the fall because I knew it would get overturned and I wanted to see the air get sucked out of that arena. Easy, easy call and well done by the assistant.
Don't forget about Carr's great early defense. Young was in deep twice in the first and Carr defended both times. Match shifted in the second. If Young converts there, and he's usually automatic, completely different match.
Very savvy wrestling from Carr. He's for real. I think that could realistically be an NCAA final the next 2 years.
Pretty sure it was the mat judge who caught and called the locked hands. The replay only verified it and probably allowed them to accurately reset the clock. The mat judge should have clearly communicated with the mat official that he had a top man "locked hands" and when Lugo went to his back the match should have been stopped.
I know I am known for my positive Hawkeye bias, but I certainly thought Brands had the takedown. I don't think anybody should be surprised at a Brands winning by outtoughing his competition.
More like Carr way under rated due to being a Freshman early in the season. Young had a good year last year including 2 wins over a very good Ryan Deakin. Carr and Young are both top 5 caliber wrestlers.
That is NOT what happened. Assistant ref signaled locked hands AFTER Lugo got off his back. Just rewatched it to confirm that is what happened.
The final score does not reflect a team point deduction.
I'm just not as concerned as some of you.
Nice win by Brands, but at the same time it was one match and he looked limited athletically. That will hold him back against a lot of the better guys at the weight later in the season when everyone is in shape. Shak may very well roll him up.
Degan was just screwed over the by the ref. As NoVa said above, they pulled that call out of their a$$ after Lugo was put on his back. He is a marginal AA at best.
The so called pinning machine at heavy decisioned a marginal wrestler. Warner is good, not great. 141 is a hole. Young is topped out, will continue to look slow against the better guys and I'd be very surprised if he is beating a healthy Deakin this year.
Finally Spencer Lee is a fantastic talent, but he's back to wearing the leg brace and I'm just not sure how long he can continue to wrestle at such a high level with his continued injuries. Why he isn't taking a Olympic Redshirt this year is beyond me. I will be shocked and in awe if he can win Nationals and the Olympic spot this year.
In summary I'm not worried, its more of the same at Iowa. They out condition people early on and then are left scratching their heads when the overtraining results in losses at Nationals.
Meanwhile our coaches have a plan.
Nice win by Brands, but at the same time it was one match and he looked limited athletically. That will hold him back against a lot of the better guys at the weight later in the season when everyone is in shape. Shak may very well roll him up.
Degan was just screwed over the by the ref. As NoVa said above, they pulled that call out of their a$$ after Lugo was put on his back. He is a marginal AA at best.
The so called pinning machine at heavy decisioned a marginal wrestler. Warner is good, not great. 141 is a hole. Young is topped out, will continue to look slow against the better guys and I'd be very surprised if he is beating a healthy Deakin this year.
Finally Spencer Lee is a fantastic talent, but he's back to wearing the leg brace and I'm just not sure how long he can continue to wrestle at such a high level with his continued injuries. Why he isn't taking a Olympic Redshirt this year is beyond me. I will be shocked and in awe if he can win Nationals and the Olympic spot this year.
In summary I'm not worried, its more of the same at Iowa. They out condition people early on and then are left scratching their heads when the overtraining results in losses at Nationals.
Meanwhile our coaches have a plan.
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Degan/Lugo was terrible. Lugo should have been awarded the reversal. The reversal had already happened before Degan locked his hands and flipped Lugo. That sequence should have went r2 for Lugo and r2 plus 4nf for Degan. This doesn't include the takedown at the end they didn't give Degan. Lugo was gifted that match.
Brands is who he is. Strong and solid. Ethan Lofthouse/Sam Brooks type. Limited athletically but will always be a grinder with great conditioning.
Brands is who he is. Strong and solid. Ethan Lofthouse/Sam Brooks type. Limited athletically but will always be a grinder with great conditioning.
I certainly enjoyed it. I have no way to measure your level of enjoyment relative to my own. Is there a phone app for this?
You could easily have heard the announcement correctly, and they were just wrong. It looked like the ref did give DeSanto a warning.
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