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@McScoreley - you just nailed this question on 247 about the threat a Coach Spencer Lee would be to PSU. I was saying more amens than a church deacon (and hope you don’t mind me importing it over here). I especially agreed with you about the makeup of his staff - I think he’s going to keep it very insular.

“Spencer will be Brands 2.0 as a head coach. He will appeal to some top kids but Brands training is all he's known and his personality is eerily similar in that he can be childish. DT was a way better hire as he has seen the system here and has experience with the business side on things. Issue for him and DT is unlike when Cael came to PSU, they are up against a legitimate dynasty.

Here's a major issue for any school going forward even after Cael (which I hope is in a long time), PSU being awakened and fully invested in wrestling shifted the landscape. The best kids are in our backyard or are hell of a lot closer than Ok State and Iowa. That's what brought Cael here in the first place. It's also why Cael was able to win to quickly, he inherited a bunch of giant talents from Sunderland (Molinaro, Wright, Ruth ... hell Bubba lol) It's not a well kept secret that Jordan Burroughs (from South Jersey) was hoping PSU would offer him out of HS. As long as Kraft is all in on wrestling (so forever), PSU will never sink low enough for any school to take advantage of building their teams from PA/NJ/NY/OH kids.

Also, Spencer's "elite staff" will literally just be the people he wrestled with like DeSanto, Marinelli. The highest potential of that group Michael Kemerer (tremendous tremendous future HC) is at Minnesota and seems to be the heir apparent for that program”
 
@McScoreley - you just nailed this question on 247 about the threat a Coach Spencer Lee would be to PSU. I was saying more amens than a church deacon (and hope you don’t mind me importing it over here). I especially agreed with you about the makeup of his staff - I think he’s going to keep it very insular.

“Spencer will be Brands 2.0 as a head coach. He will appeal to some top kids but Brands training is all he's known and his personality is eerily similar in that he can be childish. DT was a way better hire as he has seen the system here and has experience with the business side on things. Issue for him and DT is unlike when Cael came to PSU, they are up against a legitimate dynasty.

Here's a major issue for any school going forward even after Cael (which I hope is in a long time), PSU being awakened and fully invested in wrestling shifted the landscape. The best kids are in our backyard or are hell of a lot closer than Ok State and Iowa. That's what brought Cael here in the first place. It's also why Cael was able to win to quickly, he inherited a bunch of giant talents from Sunderland (Molinaro, Wright, Ruth ... hell Bubba lol) It's not a well kept secret that Jordan Burroughs (from South Jersey) was hoping PSU would offer him out of HS. As long as Kraft is all in on wrestling (so forever), PSU will never sink low enough for any school to take advantage of building their teams from PA/NJ/NY/OH kids.

Also, Spencer's "elite staff" will literally just be the people he wrestled with like DeSanto, Marinelli. The highest potential of that group Michael Kemerer (tremendous tremendous future HC) is at Minnesota and seems to be the heir apparent for that program”
About as accurate of a description regarding the coaching atmosphere that I have read. Spot on and no sign of slowing down.
 
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@McScoreley - you just nailed this question on 247 about the threat a Coach Spencer Lee would be to PSU. I was saying more amens than a church deacon (and hope you don’t mind me importing it over here). I especially agreed with you about the makeup of his staff - I think he’s going to keep it very insular.

“Spencer will be Brands 2.0 as a head coach. He will appeal to some top kids but Brands training is all he's known and his personality is eerily similar in that he can be childish. DT was a way better hire as he has seen the system here and has experience with the business side on things. Issue for him and DT is unlike when Cael came to PSU, they are up against a legitimate dynasty.

Here's a major issue for any school going forward even after Cael (which I hope is in a long time), PSU being awakened and fully invested in wrestling shifted the landscape. The best kids are in our backyard or are hell of a lot closer than Ok State and Iowa. That's what brought Cael here in the first place. It's also why Cael was able to win to quickly, he inherited a bunch of giant talents from Sunderland (Molinaro, Wright, Ruth ... hell Bubba lol) It's not a well kept secret that Jordan Burroughs (from South Jersey) was hoping PSU would offer him out of HS. As long as Kraft is all in on wrestling (so forever), PSU will never sink low enough for any school to take advantage of building their teams from PA/NJ/NY/OH kids.

Also, Spencer's "elite staff" will literally just be the people he wrestled with like DeSanto, Marinelli. The highest potential of that group Michael Kemerer (tremendous tremendous future HC) is at Minnesota and seems to be the heir apparent for that program”
The better setup for Iowa would be HC Kemerer, RTC coach Lee.

But Iowa won't do that anyrime soon, because bright shiny object.

If Kemerer becomes Goofer HC first and succeeds there -- let's say several years of B10 3rd (behind PSU and Iowa) and national top 5 -- then he'd be a compelling candidate. Even so, bright shiny object.

If Goofer HC Kemerer started beating Iowa, maybe that would be enough.
 
The better setup for Iowa would be HC Kemerer, RTC coach Lee.

But Iowa won't do that anyrime soon, because bright shiny object.

If Kemerer becomes Goofer HC first and succeeds there -- let's say several years of B10 3rd (behind PSU and Iowa) and national top 5 -- then he'd be a compelling candidate. Even so, bright shiny object.

If Goofer HC Kemerer started beating Iowa, maybe that would be enough.
In that scenario could Minnesota get support on a level to just retain him, and lure top wrestlers?
 
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In that scenario could Minnesota get support on a level to just retain him, and lure top wrestlers?
In a vacuum, yes.

In reality, Iowa has much deeper pockets, it's much easier to recruit there, and he's an alum. That's hard to beat, if that scenario unfolds.
 
In a vacuum, yes.

In reality, Iowa has much deeper pockets, it's much easier to recruit there, and he's an alum. That's hard to beat, if that scenario unfolds.
Meanwhile, Koll is putting together a good dual team. Not quite tournament good but maybe just under 10th. They haven’t beaten NCST in like 10 years….and it’s on Friday at the same time as is v Iowa. It’s only year two for him.
 
What up, ole homies!

Grab some coffee; I've written ~6600 words on the history of the PSU-Iowa duals since college wrestling's Big Bang:

 
What up, ole homies!

Grab some coffee; I've written ~6600 words on the history of the PSU-Iowa duals since college wrestling's Big Bang:


The summary charts:
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What up, ole homies!

Grab some coffee; I've written ~6600 words on the history of the PSU-Iowa duals since college wrestling's Big Bang:

Are you coming up for any meets this year? Hope to see you brother
 
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What up, ole homies!

Grab some coffee; I've written ~6600 words on the history of the PSU-Iowa duals since college wrestling's Big Bang:

This is awesome!

It was hilarious to learn that Iowa hasn't won the takedown battle against PSU since 2011. I also loved the "just wait until Ruth and Taylor graduate" backstory.
 
Are you coming up for any meets this year? Hope to see you brother

Sadly, I don't think so, Stone. I used a lot of my Mt Vernon-to-State College travel energy during football season this year. I got to a game once each month, and they were all 4 awesome (Illinois, UCLA, Washington & SMU), but I'm feeling a little burnt out on the trip.

For the postseason, my old eyes have forced me into wanting good visibility lower bowl tix to make the experience worth it, but unfortunately Philly's availability + prices have reminded me of the appeal of my beast home wifi, multiple screens and Byers in my ear.

Toyed for a long while about flying to Chitown for Big Tens, an org that still values our little BSD blog as a credentialed outlet (the NCAA no longer does), but with uncertainty about gov funding & possible downstream job turmoil, I think I just pulled the plug on that this week. Hashtag old man shit? Maybe, lol. As long as they don't pull the plug on my internet, where I can still socialize with you fine folk like this, I'l be ahhight.

Another day soon, my friend!
 
What up, ole homies!

Grab some coffee; I've written ~6600 words on the history of the PSU-Iowa duals since college wrestling's Big Bang:

Wow.......just wow! Excellent writing, amazing research, detail, and insight. I wasn't in the mood to read 6,600 words tonight, but so glad I did. I really enjoyed reading this and learned a lot. I don't have a detailed memory, I usually just retain broad themes from the past. I now more clearly remember that PSU was typically anchored by many elite wrestlers, but we had so many gaps in our dual meet lineups in Cael's early years. Really surprised to see those early PSU dual lineups. Now I know why so many are saying this is PSU's best team. We are solid top to bottom. So grateful for what Cael and company have built at Penn State. Tomorrow we will build on this :)
 
As I was posting above, and with the big dual meet approaching tomorrow, I started to think of the intense pressure on our wrestlers and how they might be dealing with it. Is Bonnie Epstein.....sports psychologist/counselor still active with the team? She has obviously had an amazing influence on the program. I've only watched PSU on TV this season, but haven't seen Bonnie. Is she still active with the team?
 
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As I was posting above, and with the big dual meet approaching tomorrow, I started to think of the intense pressure on our wrestlers and how they might be dealing with it. Is Bonnie Epstein.....sports psychologist/counselor still active with the team? She has obviously had an amazing influence on the program. I've only watched PSU on TV this season, but haven't seen Bonnie. Is she still active with the team?
For a while, since late last year, she was not visible. But recently @nerfstate said he saw her.
 
What up, ole homies!

Grab some coffee; I've written ~6600 words on the history of the PSU-Iowa duals since college wrestling's Big Bang:

@backdrft76 POTY nomination
 
I apologize if this has been answered and I missed it, but is Nelson Brands even wrestling anymore? I'm not hallucinating in that he did wrestle at the beginning of the year right? 😂
 
I apologize if this has been answered and I missed it, but is Nelson Brands even wrestling anymore? I'm not hallucinating in that he did wrestle at the beginning of the year right? 😂
He is hanging out south of Iowa City at some place called Riverside Casino and Golf. He told his uncle Tom and dad to give him a call if needed, but he was sure Ferrari or Gabe could stall for 7 minutes as effectively as Nelson could and if needed Nelson felt certain their teeth were as sharp as his.
 
Agreed. At the same time, if I was Bob, I’d be really tempted to tell everyone on GIA complaining right now about how I am spending my own money to write their own checks or STFU.
He should look to back a winner. If he is going to throw money around can you imagine what Schwab could do with slumlord's millions a year.
 
I would think Bob has got to have second thoughts on how he's throwing his money away like he is.
Brands is the master. Bring an AA talent in from somewhere else, give him cash, cars, a coupon for 17 free tats at Herky’s Ink Joint, a sweet 2 BR apartment with fresh paint over the black mold and a newly displaced single mom and her kids staring in the window and crying. All the things that kids dream of having. Brands can still make that kid HATE WRESTLING!!
 
Imagine the money Angelo could command going to Oky State? Sure they have been down the Ferrari road before, but by all accounts Angelo has his head screwed on straight. If he really wants to be the best, is Iowa the best place? ;-/
 
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My guess is Angelo will win as many national titles wrestling for Iowa as Gabe will.
However, he will probably win at least 1 more Solider Salute title than Gabe will. So there is that.
 
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