Go easy on Keuter. Who is the last guy at Iowa to look any better at any point in their career than they did they day they showed up?
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He also seems like a pretty decent guy, along with most of the guys on the Iowa roster. Unfortunately, they all ended up at the wrong school if they had aspirations to win a national championship.
The thing I noticed about Keuter is the way he is losing. I can’t think of a future national champ who got teched multiple times earlier in their career and then turned it around. Development doesn’t work like that, especially at Iowa.
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Finishing high on the podium in his 3rd year is now the goalposts in lieu of multiple NCs when he came as a recruit.
Not sure why you're representing yourself as a counter point, you're saying the same thing as the guys you are arguing with. Finishing 4th in your 3rd year in a program is certainly not special or deserving of hype in the context of this discussion.
Different (wrong) weight class. 190 was clearly too big a cut for Kerry.
You are confusing me with irrational Iowa fans with overinflated expectations. I never predicted a part time wrestler would win multiple NC's based on his success at age level tournaments in freestyle. However, dismissing him as an underachiever based on his results against Kerk, Gable and Hendrickson seems a little premature.
He's already beaten Feldman. He's good. He's just not great.
I think he's also a much better freestyler, especially at heavyweight. The size discrepancy has really hurt him on the mat and in scrambles.
IF he can grow into his frame, and that's a big if at this point, he can win a title as early as next year. If he splits time with football, it's hard to see it happening though.
That's a defensive reaction to my post. Be truthful here. Keuter didn't try to defend against Gable several times.
If he had given Gable any fight, I probably don't make my original post. It's not that he got tech'd, it's how he got tech'd. Without defending himself.
My fear for him is that if he grows into 245, I think he loses even more quickness.
Ok, who’s the new troll on HB?
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Possible 1 year rentals
25' Figueroa/Poulin 41' Composto/Vombaur 49' Henson/McNeil 57' Miller/Askey 97' Bates/Poznanski Anything realistic here? Pipe dream Fig/Comp/Henson combo. Could that team beat Cael?
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What if someone were to dismiss him based on his results against Bastida and Luffman?
That would be their choice, but I would disagree. Bastida would be #4 right now if he was healthy and has beaten Henrickson. The loss to Luffman is a bad loss but I wouldn't "dismiss" someone based on 1 bad loss. Kueter had higher expectations than he should have based on his age level results. I'm not saying he's performed exactly like I thought he would but I'm not writing off his career based on getting tech'ed by Gable and Hendrickson.
Haha! The thing is most of us Iowa fans don't care about other fanbases or media disparaging us about bringing in 1-year rentals. Do whatever it takes to put the best 10 guys on the mat (minus redshirt decisions since I know you will all start bringing up the Gabe/Angelo situation).Ok, who’s the new troll on HB?
Possible 1 year rentals
25' Figueroa/Poulin 41' Composto/Vombaur 49' Henson/McNeil 57' Miller/Askey 97' Bates/Poznanski Anything realistic here? Pipe dream Fig/Comp/Henson combo. Could that team beat Cael?
I just love that 5th is thought of as some lowball estimate for Angie. Nope, straight to the favorite.
The issue becomes, is his development worth betting on that in 2027/28 you can run him out with confidence that he’ll be a major point getter?
Whatever happened to "We like our guys." ???
Being Michigan will get Michigan results. Zero NCAA team titles. If the goal is to close the gap then I suppose...
“we like your guys”
The reason I brought it here was that lineup is pretty much what a troll from here would have come up with for a HB optimism thread, hence my lead in. I’m not as bad as you think and I’m surely not going to pee on the thread over there. Who knows, it very well could play out close to that. Whether it does and if it does whether it proves to be sound long term play is TBD.
Kerry McCoy went 19-17 and was majored 4x as a freshman. (I figure losing by major then is like by Tech now.)
He then went 131-1 the rest of his career, including 88 in a row, won two National
Championships and a Hodge.
Even moreso now with NIL money. My favorite Cowboy joke goes what do you call a bunch of Texan millionaires sitting around watching the Super Bowl? The Dallas Cowboys!
What do you call a bunch of millionaire college wrestlers sitting around watching Penn State collect another team title and 4 or 5 individual championships? Hawkeyes.
It is lowball based on who's coming back at 184 and who's coming off redshirt. It's McEnelly, Rocco Welsh off redshirt and then the next highest ranked returnees are Berge and Allred.
Yes, I hear you, and I’m not saying 5th is out of his window. I’m saying it’s treated like an insult.
Welsh, finalist.
Mac, very good
Ryder, will be very good
I think Angelo’s window is 1–6 ish. But 5th isn’t an insult.
Iowa long standing motto "we'll never recruit over our guys", until it wasn't ...
Ok, who’s the new troll on HB?
Possible 1 year rentals
25' Figueroa/Poulin 41' Composto/Vombaur 49' Henson/McNeil 57' Miller/Askey 97' Bates/Poznanski Anything realistic here? Pipe dream Fig/Comp/Henson combo. Could that team beat Cael?
I didn't click the link but based just on the portal names visible from your post I'd have to say that team of 10 guys probably could beat Cael, if I'm being honest.
But if you let Casey and Cody on the mat to tag-team with Cael .... Well then, my money would be on the good guys by a painful margin.
Angelo was very impressive against Plott. Can you say that match alone propelled him to be called the favorite next year? I can see that argument. After all, he beat a guy higher ranked than anyone that will be returning next year. Unless Plott finishes behind an underclassmen, Angelo will likely start next year #1.
I can also see the other side saying a sample size of one dual where the pressure was all on Plott in a hostile environment (say what you want, there's no home dual advantage like Carver Hawkeye) doesn't automatically translate to him being a lock to beat 3 Top 8 opponents in a row in March, each with different styles and coaching. I will say one thing though, the kids confidence is second to none and that will take him far in this sport.
There's been a lot of impressive dual wins by true freshman over the year. Immediately after, there were a lot of talks of them never losing. Zain beating Logan Stieber at home was obviously my favorite, unfortunately Logan would flip that in a tournament setting (and Mitchell Port would kill my theory that Zain would never lose to anyone but Logan). Kaid Brock pinning Cody Brewer is another (unfortunately injuries robbed his career) Heck I'd argue Zeke Moisey's tournament run as a true freshman (beating Gilman and Nahshon) was more impressive than winning a straight dual. Also, let us not forget Jacob Warner majoring Willie Miklus made everyone think he was a 4 timer as well.
Angelo is going to be special if he stays the course. But annoint him as the next undefeated 4 timer at your own risk.
As a freshman, he cut a lot of weight to be a 197 pounder. As a heavyweight, he did a wee bit better.
I watched a true freshman takedown the #3 guy in the nation twice on Sunday.
Matched the number of takedowns they had against Penn State starters this year.
Really? Wow!!! What do you think he’ll be seeded at Big Tens?
Yes…but as you said…he’s a true freshman. He hasn’t yet had the necessary time in the Iowa room for coaches to drill the offense out of him.
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