Is there a significant difference in these 7 schedules?

[RLCookie]

The teams that played all of these schedules are 8-0. If you didn’t know who played each schedule and you just compare them, does it seem right that

Schedule #6 is ranked #1
Schedule #3 is ranked #2
Schedule #7 is ranked #3
Schedule #4 is ranked #4
Schedule #5 is ranked #5
Schedule #1 is ranked #13
Schedule #2 is ranked #12

Schedule #1
South Dakota State
Fresno
Georgia Southern
Purdue
Illinois
Nebraska
Rutgers

Schedule #2
Maryland
SFA
UTSA
Rice
Iowa State
Kansas State (22)
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
West Virginia


Schedule #3
Duke
NM State
South Carolina
Southern Mississippi
Mississippi
Texas AM
Tennessee
Arkansas

Schedule #4
Georgia Tech
Texas AM
Syracuse
Charlotte
UNC
Florida State
Louisville
Boston College
Wofford

Schedule #5
Idaho
Buffalo
Pitt
Maryland
Purdue
Iowa (19)
Michigan (14)
Michigan State

Schedule #6
Georgia Southern
Texas
NW State
Vanderbilt
Utah State
Florida (6)
Mississippi State
Auburn (11)

Schedule #7
Florida Atlantic
Cincinnati (17)
Indiana
Miami Ohio
Nebraska
Michigan State
Northwestern
Wisconsin (18)

 

[ras5051]

Up to this point there is some big differences, think you need to look at full season though, Alabama hasn’t been tested yet, but they still have auburn and LSU left

 

[AWS1022]

Our schedule is the second toughest without a doubt. So in the CFP poll we should be #2.

 

[rico18]

Correction, schedule #1played South Dakota State, not San Diago State.

 

[marshall23]

The time to worry about rankings by AP or Coaches Poll is past. My only concern is the PSU is within striking distance. If PSU takes care of business they could be the #1 seed. All the other issues only come into play if PSU has one loss and chaos happens all around......and we have to hope to land a #4 seed.
SOS is what it is.....who would have thought Florida St.,USC., Stanford, Texas A&M would be weak relative to their traditions? Schedules are made years before the season (Notre Dame looked to have a daunting schedule on paper last year) and its impossible to predict fluctuations in strength of programs.
Clemson will be given every benefit of the doubt, as long as they remain undefeated. The ACC is a comedy act this year.....but Clemson has earned a trip to the final 4 if they remain unbeaten....based on a proven ability to compete at the highest level in the playoff.

 

[RLCookie]

Honestly the ones I feel are really getting the shaft are Minnesota and Baylor. If Georgia or Florida was 8-0 with that schedule they’d be ranked in the top 7 and more than Likely ahead of Penn state. As soon as either one of those teams gets one loss they are going to drop big time.

 

[sss]

The time to worry about rankings by AP or Coaches Poll is past. My only concern is the PSU is within striking distance. If PSU takes care of business they could be the #1 seed. All the other issues only come into play if PSU has one loss and chaos happens all around......and we have to hope to land a #4 seed.
SOS is what it is.....who would have thought Florida St.,USC., Stanford, Texas A&M would be weak relative to their traditions? Schedules are made years before the season (Notre Dame looked to have a daunting schedule on paper last year) and its impossible to predict fluctuations in strength of programs.
Clemson will be given every benefit of the doubt, as long as they remain undefeated. The ACC is a comedy act this year.....but Clemson has earned a trip to the final 4 if they remain unbeaten....based on a proven ability to compete at the highest level in the playoff.

Not sure I disagree, but how long does Clemson get a hall pass? Until they lose a game in the playoffs. or does it have to be a bad loss? Just think of how many upsets their have been over the years in big games (eg Miami PSU 1986) and how many of those games would have been or have been missed due to the eye test? I don't think the 1986 team would have passe the eye test based on regular season results. Until they take actual on the field results (aka all conference champs) there is too much speculation, and we see year after year the experts are right at 50% of the time at best (usually less due to their biases).

 

[PaoliLion]

Yes, the polls are completely biased and some of the so called elite schools play horribly weak schedules. However, we shouldn’t worry about the rankings until we beat IU, Minnesota and OSU...three tough games that will make or break how our CFP chances. In other words, we control our own destiny.

Should a one loss PSU team make it in ahead of a zero loss Clemson...hell yes
Would the current top 4 non-B1G run the table with a B1G schedule...not very often

 

[RLCookie]

If by some stroke of bad luck we lose to Minnesota next weekend we have zero chance of getting back into the conversation yet Georgia loses to South Carolina, beats Florida and suddenly they are right back in the hunt. The SEC love and Big Ten bias is bullshit.

 

[NittPicker]

LINK

The above links an article in which Urban Meyer gives his opinion about the selection system. He's not a fan of the "look test" but that won't stop the Game Day jokers from acting like that's the most important thing. Maybe Meyer will try to get the process changed before he takes the USC job.

 

[djr4rebs]

Clemson schedule is #4? Or is that a typo?

 

[katchthis]

Honestly the ones I feel are really getting the shaft are Minnesota and Baylor. If Georgia or Florida was 8-0 with that schedule they’d be ranked in the top 7 and more than Likely ahead of Penn state. As soon as either one of those teams gets one loss they are going to drop big time.

If somehow MN ends up nosing out a few close wins , and and still takes the Big in a "ugly fashion", could totally see them getting the screws to a one loss team and missing the CFP.

 

[Erial_Lion]

If somehow MN ends up nosing out a few close wins , and and still takes the Big in a "ugly fashion", could totally see them getting the screws to a one loss team and missing the CFP.

The chances of a 13-0 Minnesota missing the playoff are zero.

 

[RLCookie]

Clemson schedule is #4? Or is that a typo?[/QUOTE

Depending on the poll Clemson is ranked #4.

 

[djr4rebs]

Schedule rank, not poll rank.

 

[marshall23]

Not sure I disagree, but how long does Clemson get a hall pass? Until they lose a game in the playoffs. or does it have to be a bad loss? Just think of how many upsets their have been over the years in big games (eg Miami PSU 1986) and how many of those games would have been or have been missed due to the eye test? I don't think the 1986 team would have passe the eye test based on regular season results. Until they take actual on the field results (aka all conference champs) there is too much speculation, and we see year after year the experts are right at 50% of the time at best (usually less due to their biases).

How long? A legitimate question.....but a bit premature IMO....after all they did beat the living shit out of Alabama just last year. If they finish undefeated and get soundly beaten in the 1st round this year, then I believe the bloom is off the rose. If the ACC can't produce a challenging schedule in 2020 and moving forward, they should be treated like the Pac 12. On the other hand, it is more than possible that Coach Dabo is well aware of the lack of competition his schedule presents and has taken a tact of coaching his team to "peak" just in time for the post season. Only time will tell. But I give them the benefit of the doubt based on recent playoff success.

 

[wolve1972]

LINK

The above links an article in which Urban Meyer gives his opinion about the selection system. He's not a fan of the "look test" but that won't stop the Game Day jokers from acting like that's the most important thing. Maybe Meyer will try to get the process changed before he takes the USC job.

Reported this morning that USC is not targeting Meyer as their lead candidate. Guess who their main target is though. Here ya go.

https://sports.yahoo.com/10-takeawa...liating-loss-whats-next-at-usc-062436192.html

 

[sss]

Reported this morning that USC is not targeting Meyer as their lead candidate. Guess who their main target is though. Here ya go.

https://sports.yahoo.com/10-takeawa...liating-loss-whats-next-at-usc-062436192.html

Hi

Jimmah? LOL. I hear they don’t rate 2nd half wins on the left coast as important as their midwestern brethren.

 

[NittPicker]

Reported this morning that USC is not targeting Meyer as their lead candidate. Guess who their main target is though. Here ya go.

https://sports.yahoo.com/10-takeawa...liating-loss-whats-next-at-usc-062436192.html

Since the writer didn't offer any sources it seems the mention of Franklin is simply his opinion, which doesn't mean much. "Those with knowledge" doesn't cut it and the use of the word "likely" indicates the writer doesn't really know. I could say they're targeting Chris Petersen and it would be as accurate.

 

[NC2017]

The teams that played all of these schedules are 8-0. If you didn’t know who played each schedule and you just compare them, does it seem right that

Schedule #6 is ranked #1
Schedule #3 is ranked #2
Schedule #7 is ranked #3
Schedule #4 is ranked #4
Schedule #5 is ranked #5
Schedule #1 is ranked #13
Schedule #2 is ranked #12

Schedule #1
South Dakota State
Fresno
Georgia Southern
Purdue
Illinois
Nebraska
Rutgers

Schedule #2
Maryland
SFA
UTSA
Rice
Iowa State
Kansas State (22)
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
West Virginia


Schedule #3
Duke
NM State
South Carolina
Southern Mississippi
Mississippi
Texas AM
Tennessee
Arkansas

Schedule #4
Georgia Tech
Texas AM
Syracuse
Charlotte
UNC
Florida State
Louisville
Boston College
Wofford

Schedule #5
Idaho
Buffalo
Pitt
Maryland
Purdue
Iowa (19)
Michigan (14)
Michigan State

Schedule #6
Georgia Southern
Texas
NW State
Vanderbilt
Utah State
Florida (6)
Mississippi State
Auburn (11)

Schedule #7
Florida Atlantic
Cincinnati (17)
Indiana
Miami Ohio
Nebraska
Michigan State
Northwestern
Wisconsin (18)

Didn't Michigan beat us?

 

[NittPicker]

Didn't Michigan beat us?

Yes. They beat us 14-7 in the second half. Pay no attention to the first 30 minutes.

 

[wolve1972]

Yes. They beat us 14-7 in the second half. Pay no attention to the first 30 minutes.

The serious question to ask is who had the momentum at the end of the game. If the UM receiver hadn't dropped the TD pass - and you were a betting person - who would you have put money on in OT ? Hmmmm.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

If by some stroke of bad luck we lose to Minnesota next weekend we have zero chance of getting back into the conversation yet Georgia loses to South Carolina, beats Florida and suddenly they are right back in the hunt. The SEC love and Big Ten bias is bullshit.

If we were to lose to Minny but win everything else we would DEFINITELY be right in the conversation. Beating Indy, tOSU, Rutgers and the Big 2(12) Championship Game would have us right there.

“Zero chance”? That’s laughable!

 

[wilbury]

The serious question to ask is who had the momentum at the end of the game. If the UM receiver hadn't dropped the TD pass - and you were a betting person - who would you have put money on in OT ? Hmmmm.

It's not a touchdown pass if you drop it

 

[NittPicker]

The serious question to ask is who had the momentum at the end of the game. If the UM receiver hadn't dropped the TD pass - and you were a betting person - who would you have put money on in OT ? Hmmmm.

Penn State had momentum because Michigan dropped the potential tying TD pass. That's the reality. Play the "what if" game all you want. The final score isn't going to change.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

It's not a touchdown pass if you drop it

Remember, it’s Big 2(12) officiating involved here.....you don’t actually have to catch a ball to have it called a reception!

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

The time to worry about rankings by AP or Coaches Poll is past. My only concern is the PSU is within striking distance. If PSU takes care of business they could be the #1 seed. All the other issues only come into play if PSU has one loss and chaos happens all around......and we have to hope to land a #4 seed.
SOS is what it is.....who would have thought Florida St.,USC., Stanford, Texas A&M would be weak relative to their traditions? Schedules are made years before the season (Notre Dame looked to have a daunting schedule on paper last year) and its impossible to predict fluctuations in strength of programs.
Clemson will be given every benefit of the doubt, as long as they remain undefeated. The ACC is a comedy act this year.....but Clemson has earned a trip to the final 4 if they remain unbeaten....based on a proven ability to compete at the highest level in the playoff.

Yup. Hard to not give respect to the reigning national champs while they remain undefeated...

 

[AWS1022]

The serious question to ask is who had the momentum at the end of the game. If the UM receiver hadn't dropped the TD pass - and you were a betting person - who would you have put money on in OT ? Hmmmm.

Ok, I’ll play. Penn State would have marched down the field, kicked a FG, and won the game. Since we’re playing the speculation game, that’s as solid as anyone saying Michigan would have won in OT.

 

[Nitwit97]

The serious question to ask is who had the momentum at the end of the game. If the UM receiver hadn't dropped the TD pass - and you were a betting person - who would you have put money on in OT ? Hmmmm.

Lol!! That is laughable. Penn State was toying with them. When Lions needed points, they went up top to Hamler and Nutella was in the background of the highlight jogging

Say Michigan catches the TD, game tied, we go down and score.
Doesn’t matter, the win is in the books for all time.

 

[AWS1022]

Yup. Hard to not give respect to the reigning national champs while they remain undefeated...

Remember, the new playoff system was supposed to change that. It was supposed to look at current resumes and reward the best teams based on those current resumes. But we all know, that’s a joke. It’s just the BCS plus two more teams.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

Ok, I’ll play. Penn State would have marched down the field, kicked a FG, and won the game. Since we’re playing the speculation game, that’s as solid as anyone saying Michigan would have won in OT.

Or maybe Hamler’s next kickoff return for a TD isn’t called back!

 

[marshall23]

Yup. Hard to not give respect to the reigning national champs while they remain undefeated...

Back in the day, you had to knock out the champ to win.

 

[AWS1022]

Or maybe Hamler’s next kickoff return for a TD isn’t called back!

Or he returns it far enough to put us in FG range. A lot of things could have happened, but only one thing did, we won.

 

[LionDeNittany]

How long? A legitimate question.....but a bit premature IMO....after all they did beat the living shit out of Alabama just last year. If they finish undefeated and get soundly beaten in the 1st round this year, then I believe the bloom is off the rose. If the ACC can't produce a challenging schedule in 2020 and moving forward, they should be treated like the Pac 12. On the other hand, it is more than possible that Coach Dabo is well aware of the lack of competition his schedule presents and has taken a tact of coaching his team to "peak" just in time for the post season. Only time will tell. But I give them the benefit of the doubt based on recent playoff success.

Clemson had the same soft schedule last year and appeared destined for a first round loss in the playoffs.
Certainly everyone had them losing in convincing fashion to Alabama, a team that won the SEC.
I can remember the posts and comments about how they lucked out with their first round opponent. I mean ND sucked right?


LdN

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

Remember, the new playoff system was supposed to change that. It was supposed to look at current resumes and reward the best teams based on those current resumes. But we all know, that’s a joke. It’s just the BCS plus two more teams.

No. It wasn’t supposed to change that. It was supposed to create an opportunity for the third and fourth-placed beauty queen, like the undefeated PSU and Auburn teams that never had a chance at an MNC.

That’s. It.

 

[marshall23]

Clemson had the same soft schedule last year and appeared destined for a first round loss in the playoffs.
Certainly everyone had them losing in convincing fashion to Alabama, a team that won the SEC.

LdN

I'd like to see the playoffs extended to 8. Each P5 conference should be guaranteed 1 rep each year (method of selection TBD by said conference) perhaps a group of 5 worthy rep and 2 "wildcards."

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

Back in the day, you had to knock out the champ to win.

Back in the day, we could use more appropriate terms for all these whiners!

 

[AWS1022]

No. It wasn’t supposed to change that. It was supposed to create an opportunity for the third and fourth-placed beauty queen, like the undefeated PSU and Auburn teams that never had a chance at an MNC.

That’s. It.

I heard all kinds of discussion (and still do) that the committee’s job is to ignore everything but current resumes to select the four best teams....they bloviate constantly that that’s what they’re doing.

 

[marshall23]

Back in the day, we could use more appropriate terms for all these whiners!

They are special. I'm thinking of the back in the day definition.

 

[LionDeNittany]

I'd like to see the playoffs extended to 8. Each P5 conference should be guaranteed 1 rep each year (method of selection TBD by said conference) perhaps a group of 5 worthy rep and 2 "wildcards."

I always thought 8 was the right number.

And yes, guaranteed slots for champs.

First round is at home stadiums.