Is there a significant difference in these 7 schedules?

[richmin3]

The serious question to ask is who had the momentum at the end of the game. If the UM receiver hadn't dropped the TD pass - and you were a betting person - who would you have put money on in OT ? Hmmmm.

Who won the game? You do realize you have to play sixty minutes right? Would'a, Could'a ,Should'a doesn't count.

 

[Nitwit97]

I'd like to see the playoffs extended to 8. Each P5 conference should be guaranteed 1 rep each year (method of selection TBD by said conference) perhaps a group of 5 worthy rep and 2 "wildcards."

I have been beating this drum for years.

 

[summitlion1]

I always thought 8 was the right number.

And yes, guaranteed slots for champs.

First round is at home stadiums.

I agree with 8 teams with conference winners automatically in, but I think they should be required to get rid of divisions. I'd rather see OSO/PSU and Alabama/LSU fight it out than the winner if the weaker side of the conference.

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

I heard all kinds of discussion (and still do) that the committee’s job is to ignore everything but current resumes to select the four best teams....they bloviate constantly that that’s what they’re doing.

Regrettably, I can’t disagree with you. Lots of bloviation. It’s no longer about the sport. Instead it’s about selling within the context of the sport.

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

Remember, the new playoff system was supposed to change that. It was supposed to look at current resumes and reward the best teams based on those current resumes. But we all know, that’s a joke. It’s just the BCS plus two more teams.

Just returned from a walk in the woods with the fam and took a look at the responses. In doing so, I realized I disagreed with your point of what it was supposed to be without acknowledging you’re absolutely right in what it is. BCS plus 2 is exactly what it is and is exactly what was intended:

The otherwise consensus top two plus two more arguably as deserving (a la undefeated yet spurned PSU or Auburn types), better (1-loss Bama) or capable of knocking them off (tOSU that tripped up close v PSU instead of PSU that lost to Pitt and got mauled by UM).

I’m still waiting until that fifth place team legitimately looks like at top two team. Hasn’t happened yet (despite how much I loved our 2016 squad—that finished the campaign with 3 losses).

 

[marshall23]

I agree with 8 teams with conference winners automatically in, but I think they should be required to get rid of divisions. I'd rather see OSO/PSU and Alabama/LSU fight it out than the winner if the weaker side of the conference.

Well I think I said that each Conference would determine their champion. This would allow what you suggest to happen.

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

Well I think I said that each Conference would determine their champion. This would allow what you suggest to happen.

Right. And makes @summitlion1 ’s point seem off the mark since, using his own examples, having divisions may add another weak a opponent but they don’t preclude bama from playing LSU or PSU from playing OSU. They’ll have already had their chance to leave it on the field.

 

[LionDeNittany]

I agree with 8 teams with conference winners automatically in, but I think they should be required to get rid of divisions. I'd rather see OSO/PSU and Alabama/LSU fight it out than the winner if the weaker side of the conference.

If you make the conference champion the automatic #1 seed all the other issues will fix themselves because the conferences will want their best team to go.

If they don't fix them then that's the fault of the conference.

LdN

 

[YYZ86]

The serious question to ask is who had the momentum at the end of the game. If the UM receiver hadn't dropped the TD pass - and you were a betting person - who would you have put money on in OT ? Hmmmm.

I don't have to deal with hypotheticals when the results are in. Michigan is eliminated you OSU fan.

 

[PennState_one]

The time to worry about rankings by AP or Coaches Poll is past. My only concern is the PSU is within striking distance. If PSU takes care of business they could be the #1 seed. All the other issues only come into play if PSU has one loss and chaos happens all around......and we have to hope to land a #4 seed.
SOS is what it is.....who would have thought Florida St.,USC., Stanford, Texas A&M would be weak relative to their traditions? Schedules are made years before the season (Notre Dame looked to have a daunting schedule on paper last year) and its impossible to predict fluctuations in strength of programs.
Clemson will be given every benefit of the doubt, as long as they remain undefeated. The ACC is a comedy act this year.....but Clemson has earned a trip to the final 4 if they remain unbeaten....based on a proven ability to compete at the highest level in the playoff.

Minnesota could probably win with the same schedule as Clemson. I know the schedules are made out in advance, but good grief, they have some luck.

 

[marshall23]

Minnesota could probably win with the same schedule as Clemson. I know the schedules are made out in advance, but good grief, they have some luck.

I agree that Minny could have been 8-0....but let us not be deluded into asserting that Minny is even a pimple on Clemson's ass..

 

[summitlion1]

If you make the conference champion the automatic #1 seed all the other issues will fix themselves because the conferences will want their best team to go.

If they don't fix them then that's the fault of the conference.

LdN

Do you really think that this conference would want the best team to go? It depends which the best team is I guess.

 

[marshall23]

We have more conspiracy theorists on this board than the JFK,RFK and MLK assassinations spawned.

 

[maxxedout]

Yes, the polls are completely biased and some of the so called elite schools play horribly weak schedules. However, we shouldn’t worry about the rankings until we beat IU, Minnesota and OSU...three tough games that will make or break how our CFP chances. In other words, we control our own destiny.

Should a one loss PSU team make it in ahead of a zero loss Clemson...hell yes
Would the current top 4 non-B1G EAST run the table with a B1G schedule...not very often

FTFY

 

[LionDeNittany]

Do you really think that this conference would want the best team to go? It depends which the best team is I guess.

They certainly wouldnt want Wisconsin or MSU to go based on a lucky bounce in the Championship game.

LdN

 

[AWS1022]

We have more conspiracy theorists on this board than the JFK,RFK and MLK assassinations spawned.

There’s more evidence here than in those other situations.

 

[YorkLion]

Our schedule is the second toughest without a doubt. So in the CFP poll we should be #2.

Wow!!

 

[PSUSignore]

but Clemson has earned a trip to the final 4 if they remain unbeaten....based on a proven ability to compete at the highest level in the playoff.

This is logic that I completely disagree with. You just stated that the 2019 Clemson team deserves a spot even with a weak schedule because of accomplishments of 2016-2018 Clemson teams. That simply doesn't make any sense at all.

 

[marshall23]

This is logic that I completely disagree with. You just stated that the 2019 Clemson team deserves a spot even with a weak schedule because of accomplishments of 2016-2018 Clemson teams. That simply doesn't make any sense at all.

Whether It makes sense to you or not.....are you saying that if Clemson goes undefeated that they will not make the final 4? Without awaiting your response, I'm positive that Clemson, if undefeated is in.

 

[PSUSignore]

Whether It makes sense to you or not.....are you saying that if Clemson goes undefeated that they will not make the final 4? Without awaiting your response, I'm positive that Clemson, if undefeated is in.

Oh I have no doubt an undefeated Clemson team will be in. But if there were to be an extremely rare situation with 5 undefeated teams fighting for spots all with better 2019 schedules than Clemson, they should be left out. They won't be, but they should.

The argument is more around 1 loss teams posturing for spots though because it's rare that there will be more than 4 unbeatens at the end of the season, but it's the same argument. A team's 2019 rankings should not be impacted at all by anything other than their 2019 performance.

 

[marshall23]

Oh I have no doubt an undefeated Clemson team will be in. But if there were to be an extremely rare situation with 5 undefeated teams fighting for spots all with better 2019 schedules than Clemson, they should be left out. They won't be, but they should.

The argument is more around 1 loss teams posturing for spots though because it's rare that there will be more than 4 unbeatens at the end of the season, but it's the same argument. A team's 2019 rankings should not be impacted at all by anything other than their 2019 performance.

I too doubt there will be more than 1 or 2 undefeated teams. LSU and or Alabama this week....PSU? and Certainly either PSU or OSU down the road.
I am not confident in a 1 loss PSU team getting a nod.

 

[PSUSignore]

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...-playoff-rankings-biggest-questions-committee

The committee is instructed to ignore last season, which means Clemson's title as defending national champion should be irrelevant in the room. Speaking of Clemson ...

ESPN's SOR metric is their calculation as to the likelihood that another top 25 team would have the same record given the same schedule. This graphic says that ESPN estimates only 8% of the top 25, or 2 teams, would be 8-0 if they played PSU's schedule. Meanwhile they estimate 6 teams (6.25 rounded down) would be undefeated with Clemson's schedule. Given that there are currently 7 undefeated teams in total, ESPN is basically saying that all of those teams would likely still be undefeated if they played Clemson's schedule.