Journeymen Collegiate Duals - Dec 21-22

[NittanyChris]

The Levi-KOT matchup was an instant classic that is understandably detracting from PSU’s utter dominance on the day and the further development of what could very well be the greatest college wrestling team of all-time.

Once again, we are truly spoiled as fans. Gratitude remains paramount.

WE ARE!!!

 

[nerfstate]

This is a great pull that shows they could have given 3. However, I said at the time and still believe that was one of the worst calls in ncaa finals history.

I agree—as much as I wanted Levi to win yesterday, and I wanted to feel like he was hosed at the end, the dispassionate wrestling fan in me believes McKenna was royally hosed.

 

[HikeNatParks]

Detractors gotta detract, but even they can’t help but love Beau and his gregarious personality. We do it with full knowledge that his matches will not only test emotional limits, but blood pressure/heart-med prescription refills. Bottom line, his style both tortures and excites. And whatever the wrestling gods have in store for this marvelous young man, let’s enjoy his love-of-life mentality while he’s here.

 

[Pennstate1985]

Classic case of Penn State Pessimism: we go 29-1, only loss to a 2x champ in OT on a controversial call, and yet ...

Every silver lining must have a cloud.

I can't see the silver lining for all the clouds.

Did anyone notice that our total team points per match decreased over the course of the day? At the current rate, we will be losing matches in B1Gs by February. I charted it right here...

 

[FatWoodchuck]

Wow, look at the still clips from Pyles and remember that this was sudden victory and the second he established control, a takedown should have been called. I'm fine with how it played out, but Missouri/O'Toole certainly would have had nothing to bitch about had they given the takedown and the win to Levi. I have to agree with Pyles that if anything, it looks a bit more like a takedown in the still frames than it did in "real life", but they did have the benefit of replay, slow motion and still frame. It will just make him hungrier I'm guessing. Great showing by PSU in general.

This is what I said, either way it was called it would have not been over turned. I really believe that.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Classic case of Penn State Pessimism: we go 29-1, only loss to a 2x champ in OT on a controversial call, and yet ...

Every silver lining must have a cloud.

Let’s bookmark the Levi-KOT match for the “pEnN sTaTe GeTs AlL tHe CaLlS” crowd

 

[McScoreley]

Let’s bookmark the Levi-KOT match for the “pEnN sTaTe GeTs AlL tHe CaLlS” crowd

If the roles were reversed and Keegan was the PSU wrestler, everyone would be saying Levi got robbed lol

 

[Random4598375]

This has been all over twitter, but I haven’t seen it here yet. Pretty crazy how similar the position was. If anything, Levi had legs in more. Won Yianni a title. Also, the rule change last year was only about rear standing. So it came down to refs interpretation of reaction time.

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Clearly not. In fact, I think TanTom should raise a banner for McKenna. LOL.

 

[Pennstate1985]

The Levi/KOT ending reminded me very much of the scramble that ended the Mendes/Bartlett bout at Nationals this year. Could have gone either way at times.

 

[El-Jefe]

Clearly not. In fact, I think TanTom should raise a banner for McKenna. LOL.

The biggest upset of the weekend is that multiple people tweeted pics of the Yianni-McKenna match and Tan Tom wasn't one of them.

 

[RandyL]

Did anyone else see how much McHenry looked like SVN, with his headgear on, bouncing up and down, waiting for his "extra" bout to begin.
I thought gee, SVN must have asked for anther match as he loves it so much out there, and hadnt had much mat time in his 3 bouts.
McHenry was fun to watch.

 

[Pennstate1985]

Did anyone else see how much McHenry looked like SVN, with his headgear on, bouncing up and down, waiting for his "extra" bout to begin.
I thought gee, SVN must have asked for anther match as he loves it so much out there, and hadnt had much mat time in his 3 bouts.
McHenry was fun to watch.

What is the story behind that match? They made it seem like McHenry was going to be riding into the sunset after the bout. Not sure why but that was the impression I got. He was electric and had the entire team watching and cheering.

 

[Nitlion1986]

The biggest upset of the weekend is that multiple people tweeted pics of the Yianni-McKenna match and Tan Tom wasn't one of them.

Never going to happen if any part of the posting involves anything that can be seen as supporting the PSU point. If O'Toole had been the one slipping a leg in and Levi had continued through the sequence to a winning call Tom would have burned twitter to the ground showing us that sequence.

 

[AndEEss]

 

[Psalm 1 guy]

This is a great pull that shows they could have given 3. However, I said at the time and still believe that was one of the worst calls in ncaa finals history.

I agree. Nothing about that sequence shows control for Yianni.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

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The AB look. Haha

 

[Psalm 1 guy]

Did anyone else see how much McHenry looked like SVN, with his headgear on, bouncing up and down, waiting for his "extra" bout to begin.
I thought gee, SVN must have asked for anther match as he loves it so much out there, and hadnt had much mat time in his 3 bouts.
McHenry was fun to watch.

Regarding the top starting position of his opponent that McHenry was so upset about, I have never seen the top wrestler start in that position. I am going to have to do some research on the rules there. EDIT: From the NCAA rules: The offensive wrestler shall be on the right or left side of the opponent with at least one knee on the mat to the outside of the near leg, not touching the defensive wrestler. A knee or foot may be placed in back of the defensive wrestler’s feet, not touching the defensive wrestler. The head shall be placed on or above the midline of the opponent’s back.

I re-watched the match. His opponent was trying to gain an advantage by placing his down leg up against McHenry's leg, in violation of the rules. It was obvious McHenry was not only frustrated with this, but also that his opponent kept crowding him (not backing out a bit for a re-set) after the official stepped in to talk to the top wrestler. Also, it was pretty funny watching Cael's lack of reaction to McHenry pushing his opponent away from him when his opponent kept crowding him.

 

[Shot of Espresso]

Looks like Rokfin took down the videos.

Hopefully to fix them so the sound will play.. Been trying to watch them but they have no sound?

 

[SlipperyPete12]

Penn Stave vs Missouri:

 

[js8793]

I agree. Nothing about that sequence shows control for Yianni.

I think it’s very telling that he completely bails on the position as soon as the td is given. If he tries to hang on, McKenna has a good chance to pop out the back like KOT.

If you can’t clear the underhook, you’re not staying on top for long, even if you get the far boot in. That position should not be treated like the much more common seatbelt step over. The defensive wrestler maintaining an underhook is so much stronger than only having a whizzer (which is why you rarely see guys attempt one vs the other which happens all the time).

 

[kingslayer_85]

I agree. Nothing about that sequence shows control for Yianni.

He wasn’t and I think the rules have changed since then and today you need to show control. Also in todays rules Max Dean wouldn’t have given up the takedown in overtime against Rider

 

[Psalm 1 guy]

He wasn’t and I think the rules have changed since then and today you need to show control. Also in todays rules Max Dean wouldn’t have given up the takedown in overtime against Rider

Ya, I was happy when the NCAA did away with the rear standing hand touch rule.

 

[jpsolo]

Thank you. At any time in the match, that is building riding points. That is the epitome of control.

Building riding points does not in any way determine if you are in control from neutral. If you start on top and end up in a single leg position you’re still accumulating riding time but that’s not control when starting from neutral.
I would’ve loved for them to give Levi 3 but think the right call was made, just not quite control.