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Kollin Moore's Ranking

When do the next coaches rankings come out? Has to be soon, it's been 3 weeks.
 
Kidding aside, are excessive temps at Rec Hall really a thing? Was surprised to hear the commentators mention that as impacting the tOSU wrestlers the other night. Seems it would impact our guys equally, not to mention agitating the fans.
I can remember years ago SCHS wrestled at a nearby rival school. The gym was very hot and we all thought it was done on purpose. I believe future PSU wrestler Davey Weber lost that night because of the heat (to another future PSU wrestler).
 
When do the next coaches rankings come out? Has to be soon, it's been 3 weeks.
Just for you, LemonPie :)...

February 9 - Initial Full RPI and 2nd Coaches Ranking

February 23 - 2nd Full RPI, 3rd Coaches Ranking, and the Auto-Qualifier Allotments

March 9 - 3rd RPI, 4th Coaches Ranking, (both recalculated and used to determine Bronze Standard) and the Brackets are announced live

Before any misunderstandings about the RPI, it's math, nothing more. Sort of a strength-of-schedule metric...it's not a ranking by any stretch...and 17 bouts in your championship weight class are required, so some wrestlers will be missing.
 
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Yes. A ranking is about current performance. Some progress and get better while others fail to. I can’t think of any sport that ranking is mainly based on body of work.
Well psu football didn’t make the playoff in 2016 because they lost twice early. That certainly would seem to be a sport where the ranking is based on body of work.
 
17 is a strange number. Any idea about how it was arrived at?

Just count the appropriate
bouts - 1, 2, 3...
until you arrive at 17.

;)

Good question seeyajohn.
Joining you, waiting for
the feedback on why 17.

Guessing it's not related to
the metric system.
 
17 is a strange number. Any idea about how it was arrived at?
Just a few guesses...as I honestly don't know for sure.

The number of allowed Competition Dates, for both a Team AND an Individual, is 16. 17 suggests a wrestler goes at most of the Competition Dates, plus at least one tournament during the regular season.

I don't believe there is statistical justification for "17", though there is a point where the confidence that it is a meaningful metric, based on too-few matches, does enter the picture. My gut tells me that 10 to 12 (or in that range) isn't enough, but there's nothing magical about the math at 17.
 
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I can remember years ago SCHS wrestled at a nearby rival school. The gym was very hot and we all thought it was done on purpose. I believe future PSU wrestler Davey Weber lost that night because of the heat (to another future PSU wrestler).


Dave Weber! Wow, that's a name from the past
 
Kidding aside, are excessive temps at Rec Hall really a thing? Was surprised to hear the commentators mention that as impacting the tOSU wrestlers the other night. Seems it would impact our guys equally, not to mention agitating the fans.

You are failing to think like an Iowa guy. Of course it affects Ohio State differently than Penn State. :rolleyes:
 
That dates you Lorenzo! Of course your moniker does a bit as well. Rich is a great guy and a great coach!
I assume you were referring to the SCAHS team that had Knapp, Fedon, Struble, Scannell, Weber, young Koll and Pifer in the line up
 
I assume you were referring to the SCAHS team that had Knapp, Fedon, Struble, Scannell, Weber, young Koll and Pifer in the line up
No--it goes back before that. It was Dave Weber's and Dave Joyner's Sr year of HS at SCHS--before older Koll was on the team (1967).
 
I assume you were referring to the SCAHS team that had Knapp, Fedon, Struble, Scannell, Weber, young Koll and Pifer in the line up

Went to SCAHS with 5 of those guys [1 in same class, 2 were 1 class older]. Scannell & Knapp I believe were a couple yrs older? Don't recall the other 2 being in the same line-up at that time?? Eric Brugal was a Sr when I was Fr [but Fr were in the Jr Highs in those days].
 
Went to SCAHS with 5 of those guys [1 in same class, 2 were 1 class older]. Scannell & Knapp I believe were a couple yrs older? Don't recall the other 2 being in the same line-up at that time?? Eric Brugal was a Sr when I was Fr [but Fr were in the Jr Highs in those days].
Park Forest?
 
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I would make Cassar the new number one. He beat Moore fair and square in a match so therefore Moore clearly should lose the spot. Sure Cassar lost earlier this year, but we are talking NOW. Cassar at the moment earned the one spot. Hall lost to Valencia in a preseason match and lost the number one spot even though he is undefeated. NATO was number one forever without even wrestling a match at 125 according some rankers. Remember when Gulibon was number one without a match at 141?

When a boxing champion loses a fight, they are no longer Champ. The other guy is. I know wrestling is different and you can not automatically always make the opponent the new number one cause of upsets and crazy things that go down. But I don’t think Moore deserves to stay number one. How can Moore be number one without getting a single TD? IMO Cassar earned the ranking for now, and to have his name pronounced correctly, and Moore should drop to number two.
I agree with Moore retaining his number 1 ranking. There is only one guy who can possibly make an argument for displacing Moore and has 2 losses, including one to a backup. The true rankings at the end of the year will be earned not subjectively given.

Now in a lighter take on it. Moore does wrestle for Ohio State and the last time I looked Ohio State is in the Alabama grouping. That is the special group that dictates 1 or 2 losses don't really count, unless it makes a difference to one of the other Alabama group.
 
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Haha yet many people argue with me that it should be based on past work. I'm glad someone agrees!

So you're saying that, in football for example, late season wins should count more heavily than early wins for the purpose of determining a B1G Champion?
 
So you're saying that, in football for example, late season wins should count more heavily than early wins for the purpose of determining a B1G Champion?
Personally, I don't care about football. Football has so few games compared to matches in wrestling. Football is a team sport. Wrestling can be individual as well and conference champs after determined differently.
 
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