The question I would ask is where was the coach when and after this happened. I know this would have never happened under Joe without consequences, and probably similar with Franklin.
As a Michigan fan, im just happy Penn State is done being great
Sucks for you, as they are only going to keep getting better.As a Michigan fan, im just happy Penn State is done being great
How exactly do you figure that? Looking st the rosters, which team do you think will be better in the next year or two. You guys better win this year while you have your rent a QB and a veteran team, cause next year looks a lot leaner.
You’re about to be 3-12 against teams that matter and you’re talking about how much better you’re going to be. Lol so typical penn state.
....and the last time you won a BIG championship???You’re about to be 3-12 against teams that matter and you’re talking about how much better you’re going to be. Lol so typical penn state.
Maybe it’s simply because Franklin doesn’t like Harbaugh and all the hype he gets. When I coached basketball one of the other coaches was written about in the paper like he was some kind of god and he acted like he was. When we had a chance to run it up against him, we did because he was an asshat. We have no idea how coaches act around other coaches, but if you’re a dick you better be ready to take a beating when you’re down. And maybe Franklin’s a dick to other coaches so that’s why teams run it up on him when they get a chance. Sometimes it comes down to good old fashioned dislike.No they didn't. That's factually incorrect.
Michigan kneeled on the ball twice on their final possession in 2016 (despite being fairly deep into PSU territory). PSU obviously didn't do the same thing last year.
Michigan --- like most football teams --- has its pride. I don't understand when coaches try to stick in the knife at the end unnecessarily. People remember.
You do realize he called the timeout before the kick right? What if that first kick had been missed and the second one was made? Would anyone be talking about it? What if he would have called the time out right after the previous play ended? No one would be taking about that either. If that’s the best you got you might want to go back to your own board.It stops when you don't call a time out up 56-0?
No they didn't. That's factually incorrect.
Michigan kneeled on the ball twice on their final possession in 2016 (despite being fairly deep into PSU territory). PSU obviously didn't do the same thing last year.
Michigan --- like most football teams --- has its pride. I don't understand when coaches try to stick in the knife at the end unnecessarily. People remember.
....and the last time you won a BIG championship???
....played in the BIG championship game?....oh that is an easy one...NEVER!LOL...Typical Michigan Man Pathetic to the end!
He liked Bo? Kewl. Doesn't change him as a person to me.
Congrats on your one big season, it was impressive.
What you say about Michigan never playing in a B1G title game is true, 100%. They need to and there's no guarantee they will this year or ever.
What we know as fact is that CJF is 3-11 against OSU, Michigan, and Michigan State and he is a 10.5 point underdog and starring 3-12 in the face.
His 3 wins were against Harbaugh's worst team at Michigan, Dantonio's worst team at Michigan State, and arguably Meyer's worst team, although that's debatable.
Really, has it been that long? I don't follow college football too much, so there had to have been years in that time frame they (UM) were hamstrung with sanctions, reduced scholarships, etc,. right? Weren't OSU and PSU on some type of penalties during that time period? Didn't they take advantage of those down years of those two opponents and just clean up on the Big 10? I mean they are MICHIGAN!!!! How could they possibly have NOT won a Big10 title in 15 YEARS!!! Certainly, that little brother from East Lansing wasn't good enough to win any titles during that time period.Not winning a conference title in15 years has spooked them. They hear footsteps in the dark.
Really you must be a Section8 ?As a Michigan fan, im just happy Penn State is done being great
Yes they did, no matter how you try to twist the facts. You will notice that there is no defined timing component to running up the score, and you most definitely don't get to insert one to fit your false narrative.
"To engage in the practice - usually by coaching decision - of scoring more points than needed in a one-sided contest."
Since Michigan wasn't kneeling on the ball any earlier than their last possession, they were running up the score by definition. The funny thing is, what Michigan did to PSU, running the same play and laughing, was 100x worse than what PSU did to Michigan. Michigan was disrespectful, PSU played with respect to the final whistle. Last year Michigan should have manned up and said "that sucked but we reap what we sow, we are even now."
Do you mean Joe or Bo?Given that you know nothing about him, that means less than nothing. Crawl back to your rock.
Congrats on your one big season, it was impressive.
What you say about Michigan never playing in a B1G title game is true, 100%. They need to and there's no guarantee they will this year or ever.
What we know as fact is that CJF is 3-11 against OSU, Michigan, and Michigan State and he is a 10.5 point underdog and starring 3-12 in the face.
His 3 wins were against Harbaugh's worst team at Michigan, Dantonio's worst team at Michigan State, and arguably Meyer's worst team, although that's debatable.
If you can’t win the Big10 East this year then Harbaugh needs to go. Ohio State is not a great team this year, PSU is a seriously flawed team, you already manhandled MSU. This is his chance to finally accomplish something meaningful at Michigan. I really don’t see us posing much of a challenge unless harbaugh coaches himself out of the game. Ohio State will pose a bigger threat but not much. Again, as long as Harbaugh doesn’t coach himself out of it you should finally win something. We’ll see if he can do it.
He liked Bo? Kewl. Doesn't change him as a person to me.
Agreed, but then don't brag about it to the media after the game, especially when your opponents were short handed due to sanctions and injuries.This is idiotic too. There is nothing wrong with running the same play over and over. If the players are laughing about it, so be it. Stop them. Can’t stop them? Get better players. It’s not Michigan’s fault we couldn’t stop the play. Part of not running up the score should not include attempting to call plays that won’t work.
This is idiotic too. There is nothing wrong with running the same play over and over. If the players are laughing about it, so be it. Stop them. Can’t stop them? Get better players. It’s not Michigan’s fault we couldn’t stop the play. Part of not running up the score should not include attempting to call plays that won’t work.
1. Michigan and PSU- Penn State loses total gem at qb, Michigan loses MLB and possibly 1 or 2 lock down corners.
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Whoa! Where are you getting that Bo knew about and enabled Larry Nasser? That’s a pretty serious charge.You are talking about Bo right... because he knew about and enabled Larry Nassar?
When Joe was faced with a similar situation, it's well known that he properly reported per state law, university policy, and current NCAA guidelines. I'm actually ashamed Joe liked Bo.
I’d only challenge the notion that all of four of those guys are going pro. I suspect Hill and Hudson will stay.Michigan loses starting RB, starting slot, starting RT.
Lose Gary, Winovich, Kinnel. Bush, Hudson, Hill, and Long all likely to go pro.
And I like once PSU is losing McSorley, he's a "total gem". After Michigan fans have been saying how he's a lucky arm-punter and isn't very good for 3 years.
Michigan loses starting RB, starting slot, starting RT.
Lose Gary, Winovich, Kinnel. Bush, Hudson, Hill, and Long all likely to go pro.
And I like once PSU is losing McSorley, he's a "total gem". After Michigan fans have been saying how he's a lucky arm-punter and isn't very good for 3 years.
It's about as reasonable as Joe enabling Sandusky.Whoa! Where are you getting that Bo knew about and enabled Larry Nasser? That’s a pretty serious charge.
Past performance does not indicate future results.James Franklin has never beaten a ranked team on the road in his entire career and hasn't beaten Michigan, OSU, or MSU on the road...given that, it will be tough seeing him winning another B1G
Hudson isn't leaving and Long and or Hill will stay. Also, Grant Perry a big loss? Probably shows a lack of knowledge here.
I always thought McSorely was good and those Michigan fans were wrong. I also think they will be more explosive next year which will help. My guess is they lose Sanders, but you would probably know better than me.
James Franklin has never beaten a ranked team on the road in his entire career and hasn't beaten Michigan, OSU, or MSU on the road...given that, it will be tough seeing him winning another B1G
Hudson isn't leaving and Long and or Hill will stay. Also, Grant Perry a big loss? Probably shows a lack of knowledge here.
I always thought McSorely was good and those Michigan fans were wrong. I also think they will be more explosive next year which will help. My guess is they lose Sanders, but you would probably know better than me.
James Franklin has never beaten a ranked team on the road in his entire career and hasn't beaten Michigan, OSU, or MSU on the road...given that, it will be tough seeing him winning another B1G
When you talk about Franklin’s record you act like there were no sanctions levied against Penn State or that they had little to no effect. What should be our senior class and the leaders of the team is virtually non-existant. Once this is corrected, and it’s on its way to being fixed, Penn State will start winning a lot of those close losses. I hope you realize Franklin has accomplished A LOT more than Harbaugh while rebuilding a sanction depleted roster.
Needs to go? C'mon.
If they lose on a last second field goal to OSU, would it hurt? Yes. Opportunity lost? Yes.
Michigan will lose some junior stars like Rashan Gary (haven't missed him) Devin Bush (hard to replace) and David Long, but they are loaded just about everywhere and the only team who has cracked Don Brown at all was Penn State last year.
They return 9/10 in the two deep on the offensive line, bring in a ton of talent on the D line, and if Patterson left (why would he?) their two guys behind him are better runners, with stronger arms, and about 20-40 more pounds.
Michigan will 100% be in the B1G hunt next year. Their two tough road games (at Wisconsin and at PSU) are splittable with Wisconsin taking a step back and they get OSU and MSU at home.
Next year it looks like this to me
1. Michigan and PSU- Penn State loses total gem at qb, Michigan loses MLB and possibly 1 or 2 lock down corners.
2. OSU loses Haskins and possibly Meyer
3. MSU returns a lot, but I am not buying who they have at qb and they play at Michigan, at OSU, and travel to Wisconsin.
Agreed, but then don't brag about it to the media after the game, especially when your opponents were short handed due to sanctions and injuries.
Hudson isn't leaving and Long and or Hill will stay. Also, Grant Perry a big loss? Probably shows a lack of knowledge here.
I always thought McSorely was good and those Michigan fans were wrong. I also think they will be more explosive next year which will help. My guess is they lose Sanders, but you would probably know better than me.
James Franklin has never beaten a ranked team on the road in his entire career and hasn't beaten Michigan, OSU, or MSU on the road...given that, it will be tough seeing him winning another B1G
Where is Sanders going to go?