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Lehigh Match Thread!!

One place you can smell well before you actually get there is Johnsonburg. That place smells awful even through the window of a vehicle
Imagine living downstream from that paper mill when there is dense fog in the morning. The last time I was there it was much better though

The old Tyrone paper mill was the same.
 
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There used to be a bar just north of Bradford on 219 that was in NY while the parking lot was in PA,
Not sure what that would have been. My X's Aunt & Uncle worked at Zippo. Some friends went to UPB. We went way of Ceres and thru Portville.
 
Wagon wheel? Where the hell is that? I've been in lock haven for a while never heard of the wagon wheel. I heard of the mangy moose and that burned down.
Assuming it's still open, you should take a drive to Cammal some night for a Wagon Wheel visit.

Should you be shooting pool against some dude, and kicking his butt, know when to walk away, before a ruckus starts. Then girlfriend, MrsPA (the bartender that summer) was watching the events unfold and convinced me to that it was time to go. I reluctantly admit that it was probably for the best.
 
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Assuming it's still open, you should take a drive to Cammal some night for a Wagon Wheel visit.

Should you be shooting pool against some dude, and kicking his butt, know when to walk away, before a ruckus starts. Then girlfriend, MrsPA (the bartender that summer) was watching the events unfold and convinced me to that it was time to go. I reluctantly admit that it was probably for the best.
You were very very lucky to heed MrsPA’s advice if it was one of these sharks:

 
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There used to be a bar just north of Bradford on 219 that was in NY while the parking lot was in PA,
I wonder how many arguments the local police got in deciding who was stuck with the paper for crimes that occurred there, especially when a bar fight spilled out into the parking lot? :cool: There were occasions in my law enforcement career (San Diego PD) where San Diego County Sheriff deputies would direct victims of crimes in their jurisdiction to head across the street to our jurisdiction to report it! Not cool : )
 
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I wonder how many arguments the local police got in deciding who was stuck with the paper for crimes that occurred there, especially when a bar fight spilled out into the parking lot? :cool: There were occasions in my law enforcement career (San Diego PD) where San Diego County Sheriff deputies would direct victims of crimes in their jurisdiction to head across the street to our jurisdiction to report it! Not cool : )
With PA being 21 and NY 18, you can imagine the clientele mix.
 
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Last year, those 6 and 7 year Seniors at Iowa underperformed. It's tough to be in a room that long and stay motivated and just staying at the same level let alone improving. My opinion, Dean is just getting his feet wet early season and will begin to turn it on after New Year. Individual planning for Dean. Just as there's probably a different kinda plan for RBYs final season.
I'm not concerned in the least. Yet. Come late January we'll see where things stand,
 
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Did you ever think it was, or would be, otherwise? Their job is to help teams qualify for their invitational. It is not a playoff where champions qualify. The BCS was a joke. The CFP is a joke.

Unless…… you sit back and decide it’s an invitational, then your life gets better and you probably end up like me….not watching those three games. I got other things to do. When it’s a tournament of champions in 2 years…I’ll watch.
Utah, Clemson, KState all jumped Penn State, but none jumped Bama and UT. That tells you all you need to know what the committee thought of Penn State. Kansas State ay 10th before the TCU was a total joke. They didn't have another win vs a team that finished in the top 25 and lost to 17 and 21. 10th before the TCU win? Why?
 
Utah, Clemson, KState all jumped Penn State, but none jumped Bama and UT. That tells you all you need to know what the committee thought of Penn State. Kansas State ay 10th before the TCU was a total joke. They didn't have another win vs a team that finished in the top 25 and lost to 17 and 21. 10th before the TCU win? Why?
Come 2024 with 6 spots reserved for the highest ranked conference champions the rigamaroling for those other 6 spots with be as slimy as a conference commissioner politicking against his own conference's champion. The argument for a 4 loss LSU from the CFP committee will cause outlook laughter. The SEC will be twisting and turning everything on its head to get 4 or 5 teams in.
 
Utah, Clemson, KState all jumped Penn State, but none jumped Bama and UT. That tells you all you need to know what the committee thought of Penn State. Kansas State ay 10th before the TCU was a total joke. They didn't have another win vs a team that finished in the top 25 and lost to 17 and 21. 10th before the TCU win? Why?
One can make up all sorts of arguments about that mess you describe. The joke that no one focuses on was the possible effort to get Alabama in the playoff…ahead of Tenessee. And in fact the Committee placed them one spot ahead of Tennessee. Of all criteria anywhere….anywhere Head 2 Head is straight up the only objective measure. They had identical a records. 10-2. Thru played each other. Tennessee won.

That Tennessee lost to SCarolina is irrelevant in the face of H2H. Well…Alabama had 3 turnovers and 18 penalizes and would have won if not for those. Wut? If my grandmother had wheels she’d be a car. Whose fault is the penalties and turnovers? I’m pretty sure they are part of the game. Injury to Hooker? Red herring.

To me, the joke of ranking Tennessee behind Bama tells you all you need to know about the farce of the CFP. Thankfully in 2 years at the very least 6 champions are in. That’s an objective measure of earning your way in.
 
One can make up all sorts of arguments about that mess you describe. The joke that no one focuses on was the possible effort to get Alabama in the playoff…ahead of Tenessee. And in fact the Committee placed them one spot ahead of Tennessee. Of all criteria anywhere….anywhere Head 2 Head is straight up the only objective measure. They had identical a records. 10-2. Thru played each other. Tennessee won.

That Tennessee lost to SCarolina is irrelevant in the face of H2H. Well…Alabama had 3 turnovers and 18 penalizes and would have won if not for those. Wut? If my grandmother had wheels she’d be a car. Whose fault is the penalties and turnovers? I’m pretty sure they are part of the game. Injury to Hooker? Red herring.

To me, the joke of ranking Tennessee behind Bama tells you all you need to know about the farce of the CFP. Thankfully in 2 years at the very least 6 champions are in. That’s an objective measure of earning your way in.
Your appreciation for objective data is respected from my perspective. However if I offered to make a multi-million dollar donation to the CFP to allow you and me on the committee with a vote and either one of us used the "O" word they would refuse the donation. They would probably confiscate all of our NCAA sporting event tickets as well.
 
Your appreciation for objective data is respected from my perspective. However if I offered to make a multi-million dollar donation to the CFP to allow you and me on the committee with a vote and either one of us used the "O" word they would refuse the donation. They would probably confiscate all of our NCAA sporting event tickets as well.
Objectively speaking you are right. Lol.
 
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Max vs Beard - Full Match
Nice lunger break, at the end of the first, to assist Beard to make it to the end. Every time they meet, going forward, you can count on the Lehigh staff to throw the brick for locked hands, uniform pull or headgear grab.

 
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Max vs Beard - Full Match
Nice lunger break, at the end of the first, to assist Beard to make it to the end. Every time they meet, going forward, you can count on the Lehigh staff to throw the brick for locked hands, uniform pull or headgear grab.

Wasn't it Dean who was staggeringly gassed at the end of the match? That break didn't help him very much.
 
Wasn't it Dean who was staggeringly gassed at the end of the match? That break didn't help him very much.
Never said Max didn’t gas, I think he did, but anybody watching that match that thinks the Lehigh staff legitimately thought they saw a uniform pull, I’ve got swamp land in Louisiana to sell ya.
 
Never said Max didn’t gas, I think he did, but anybody watching that match that thinks the Lehigh staff legitimately thought they saw a uniform pull, I’ve got swamp land in Louisiana to sell ya.
it was a locked hands challenge and it was extremely close. the lehigh coaches had the perfect angle to see that we don't have. weird to claim it was a lung timeout in the first period. it was a smart challenge, considering beard wasn't likely to escape in the final 10 seconds (threw it before the stall call).
 
Never said Max didn’t gas, I think he did, but anybody watching that match that thinks the Lehigh staff legitimately thought they saw a uniform pull, I’ve got swamp land in Louisiana to sell ya.
I must have watched a different match than did you. Lehigh challenged, *in the first period*, for a locked hands call. Said challenge was denied, so Lehigh lost their challenge brick and thus could never challenge again for anything, much less a uniform pull that didn't happen. There was no other break that I saw.

Beard really needed a "lunger" at the end of the first period, but was able to outlast Dean for the next four minutes?
 
Max was, indeed, gassed. Losses happen and I’m not going to add to the rationalizing. Max Dean is one guy I do not worry about.

Your proverbial perching on Max Dean threads like a vulture hoping to swoop down and feed on his carcass is unbecoming.
It's as much a Lehigh thread as a Max Dean thread. The Cornell wrestling community is more interested in Lehigh than in Max Dean (dual meet rivalry, EIWA championship).
 
I must have watched a different match than did you. Lehigh challenged, *in the first period*, for a locked hands call. Said challenge was denied, so Lehigh lost their challenge brick and thus could never challenge again for anything, much less a uniform pull that didn't happen. There was no other break that I saw.

Beard really needed a "lunger" at the end of the first period, but was able to outlast Dean for the next four minutes?
I believe the confusion was caused by JB, on the radio he announced he thought the challenge was for pulled singlet, but when the challenge was done the ref said no locked hands.
 
I believe the confusion was caused by JB, on the radio he announced he thought the challenge was for pulled singlet, but when the challenge was done the ref said no locked hands.
JB one of the most consistent PBP guys out there. Credit to him on that. Unfortunately, he's consistently clueless.
 
weird to claim it was a lung timeout in the first period.
I agree. I considered the possibility before seeing the full match. Sure, it could've been to help Beard escape before the 1st period ended. But that, as a possible strategy, didn't work, and I now doubt it was the case.

The stall calls on Dean could've factored in. I think I read refs planned to call stalling if wrestlers gamed the 5-count on the leg drop-down while in control. But I didn't think it would happen on the first one (thought it would require repeatedly rather than ref inferring the top wrestler's intent). Live and learn.

All that said, I saw nothing in that match that leads me to believe Beard couldn't have got more TDs, if needed.

It's clear to me Michael Beard was the better wrestler on that day, and he deserved to win without caveat.

I trust Max and the PSU coaching staff have moved on. There will be another day.
 
It's as much a Lehigh thread as a Max Dean thread. The Cornell wrestling community is more interested in Lehigh than in Max Dean (dual meet rivalry, EIWA championship).
Really. Dang when this Penn State run began it was Cornell snapping at Penn State's heels and providing the biggest obstacle to that first championship. I guess Cornell's focus on Lehigh and the EIWA helps explain their since then absence. After all, it was Cael who said I did not come here to beat Lehigh.
 
It's as much a Lehigh thread as a Max Dean thread. The Cornell wrestling community is more interested in Lehigh than in Max Dean (dual meet rivalry, EIWA championship).
Tell the Cornell fans (including yourself) on TheMat forum that. They could have fooled me as they’ve been wallowing in schadenfreude at Max’s recent struggles. All good, though. Good chance Max has the last laugh.
 
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