Lord Has Strong Words For Victims.
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You have no idea some of the other dumb statements he made to at least one other person who asked for his resignation. He then requests that the statements be kept out of the press before going to the press himself and making similar dumb statements. Guess he wanted to proclaim his dumbness personally.
Not to worry. Although on the ballot in the next election, he's giving serious consideration to throwing in the towel and riding off into the sunset.
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To question the vetting process is not a problem but that, my friend, is on PSU. And if they have no intention on suing the victim for false claims then you need to let that go. It is counter-productive unless you plan to publicly present unequivocal evidence they're lying. Otherwise, you look callous and like you don't give a crap. How on earth do you think people outside of the few supporters of this statement are taking it? For folks who so desperately want PSU removed from blame they keep shooting the,selves in the foot. It's pretty unbelievable to me.
Why does he need to just "look" callous and like he doesn't care?
Lord and his ilk have shown plain and clear that they are callous and that they do not care.
Son, stick that fork in the socket and hold on!!!! You're welcome son!!!
Please stop. He was stupid enough to throw in he didn't see the reason a victim would have such prominence.
The whole point to the endangerment charge was that someone became a victim because of his actions/inaction.
It was a truly stupid thing to say.
Yeah well, there's a lot of things done that aren't how it's supposed to work. Murderers who get off on a technicality isn't how this country is supposed to work either but we all know it happens. If PSU played loose with the $$, it means that some folks may have scammed the system. It happens everyday. It's over, there is nothing to be gained by trying to blast victims. They are considered victims according to the people that deemed them settlement worthy.
"So-called victims"
There is a special place in Hell for people like this.
There is a special place in Hell for people like this.
I understand the difference between theory and how things work in an imperfect world. But innocent until proven guilty is the standard in a criminal trial. So the system would tilt in favor of seeing a guilty person acquitted as opposed to seeing an innocent one convicted. The ancient Romans had something to do with factoring in age and experience into the equations. Then one must consider, was there intent to commit a crime.
We can also debate if in fact today's defendants actually have a trial before a jury of their peers. In a case like Spanier's....in reality the jury should have been composed of people with an understanding of his position. Do you think a custodian or bus driver really understands how a CEO makes decisions?
Thanks for stopping by.....you can clock out now.
Freeh couldn't catch a spy in the pew next to him.
Serious question and I'm not being a smart ass. Do you think Lord would have made these statements without the comments by that crook Freeh?
Ira Lubert says "Thanks".......
And He appreciates your prioritizing ......... whatever the F it is you are prioritizing ......... ahead of truth, accountabliilty, responsibility, and basic human decency.
I'm not prone to an over reaction to something I read in the paper. I thought we all might have learned something the past 6 years. My thoughts are did Lord make a mistake, was he misquoted, perhaps a poor edit of his statement.............or does he know something we don't know? After all, he has seen the Freeh work product and I think some of the A9 are using the word Fraud.
They have proven to be as foolish as the people they have aligned with.
Who cares? Lord needs to be removed immediately. He is a disgrace and just put an even bigger target on the university.
I don't see how they're related, other than being equally stupid.
Yes. That is what happened. And it's because Ira wants everyone to not look at his culpability.
He made similar statements to private individuals before he made them to the media. He indicted that while on the ballot, he may leave the board.
The days that Penn State should bow and scrape to everyone with their phony outrage are over. Whatever the f occurred was almost 20 years ago. This calculated outrage factory will never end. They only have power over you if you let them. Tell them to take the pitchforks and torches over to Michigan State.
Enough.
Enough.
Agreed. Louis Freeh thought he could trigger another "civil war" in Happy Valley like he did in 2012, pitting "Old PSU" vs "New PSU." But it's not 2012 anymore, and we're not roadkill anymore. I thought the PSU community did a great job of coming together to show Louis Freeh that he's dealing with a different kind of animal in 2017. Advantage: PSU. Or so it seemed until Lord's divisive, polarizing remarks. Maybe there's a bigger purpose to his message than I'm seeing, but upon first look it's extremely disappointing. MIssion accomplished for Louis Freeh.
It's all over the internet and PSU is getting crushed. I bet Franklin is very happy about an old man shooting off his mouth.
Ok, as long as all of the other appointed dipshiz BOT are removed as well. You know, the ones who make the real decisions at secret meetings where only a few public pre screened comments are allowed.
It's pretty incredible that the OAG put V5 on the stand to build their case.
Even more incredible was Spanier's legal team declining the opportunity to completely dismantle the entire case by simply pointing out the obvious changing of dates.
I agree with @bjf1991. They blew the game-winning layup.
To be fair, the jury foreman said it was a mistake to convict Graham Spanier on the EWOC charge. Would've been the ultimate mic-drop if Spanier walked away from all charges without taking the stand or cross-examining any of the prosecution's witnesses... the OAG would have looked so foolish on a national scale.
Still, we could be talking about that and Snedden's federal investigation resulting in top-security clearance for Graham Spanier.
Instead, we're stuck shaking our heads and arguing about Lord's idiotic remarks.
Even more incredible was Spanier's legal team declining the opportunity to completely dismantle the entire case by simply pointing out the obvious changing of dates.
I agree with @bjf1991. They blew the game-winning layup.
To be fair, the jury foreman said it was a mistake to convict Graham Spanier on the EWOC charge. Would've been the ultimate mic-drop if Spanier walked away from all charges without taking the stand or cross-examining any of the prosecution's witnesses... the OAG would have looked so foolish on a national scale.
Still, we could be talking about that and Snedden's federal investigation resulting in top-security clearance for Graham Spanier.
Instead, we're stuck shaking our heads and arguing about Lord's idiotic remarks.
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Even if I agree that there is no good reason for Penn State to have paid or settled with anyone, this is the kind of thing you probably shouldn't say in today's sound-bite driven clickbait frenzied media; especially after JS (whether or not you believe he was railroaded) was found guilty in the world's fastest trial, and especially when you're a member of the BOT. Any hope of changing the narrative on this whole thing died with the flaccid trials of Curley, Schultz, and Spanier. Maybe someday this will change, but probably not in our lifetimes.
Still, admire the guy for straight up telling it like he feels.
Still, admire the guy for straight up telling it like he feels.
We're so lucky to have James Franklin running the program like Joe would have wanted. Allows us to deal with all these off-the-field issues. But Lord's remarks make us look awful. How can we unite behind comments disparaging the victims? Completely agree with @PearlSUJam. Louis Freeh set the trap and Al Lord took the bait. Divide and conquer. Certainly not making CJF's job any easier.
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Agreed. Trying to crack this thing from the inside (a la the BOT) isn't going to work. Time to move on, and hope at some point, someone tells the truth (or a journalist with some integrity and genuine interest in the truth exposes everything).
And while I'd love to see Lord just go ape at what will surely be his final BOT meetings in the near future, he should probably - very quietly - just go away....
24 hr news cycle and they will move on to something else.
Who cares? Taking this thing lying down and bowing to the PC police didn't exactly yield positive results up to this point. I applaud the fact that finally someone didn't act like a complete pussy when commenting about this ordeal.
There's a reason he wasn't called. He didn't use any of the emails in his investigation. Schultz contradicted what he told Snedden about 98 and Spanier.
Had they put him on the stand the prosecution would have made him look stupid and Spanier look capable of lying convincingly.
Some aren't victims. Many are victims and have manipulated the situation for a payday.
You can tell who watches Board meetings and who doesn't! Albert Lord was elected to be the Bulldog that the Cabal would consider an even match. It it weren't for Albert Lord, there NEVER would have been a review of the Freeh Report.
His words and very specific meaning were not understood or purposely truncated by the Freshman reporter from the Chronicle that mailed in his "trial reports" and spent his time in Harrisburg that week "hobnobbing" with "Harrisburg insiders" who told him ALL the wrong "inside information". Every "dispatch" read like a fairy tale compared to the reporters that have followed the cases from Day 1, some of whom had an epiphany during this trial when they actually heard the testimony that their preferred narrative had just come unraveled.
I could care less what he writes about Albert Lord.
His words and very specific meaning were not understood or purposely truncated by the Freshman reporter from the Chronicle that mailed in his "trial reports" and spent his time in Harrisburg that week "hobnobbing" with "Harrisburg insiders" who told him ALL the wrong "inside information". Every "dispatch" read like a fairy tale compared to the reporters that have followed the cases from Day 1, some of whom had an epiphany during this trial when they actually heard the testimony that their preferred narrative had just come unraveled.
I could care less what he writes about Albert Lord.
