MSU's starting QB and #1 WR to transfer
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You ignore this fact. There are no adults supervising college sports. They are all making decisions to maintain their exorbitant salaries and prerogatives.
The bottom line is that Division One athletes work harder and more hours than most adults do, especially when you throw in the fact that they are also full time students. Most people never work that hard in their entire lives. At big programs like PSU, football players make millions of dollars for their school. In a free market society, the stars players are definitely being underpaid.
NIL doesn't even come from the colleges so the colleges still profit extremely well from their football players.
Nowhere in this thread did I fight the changes with CFB. I said that your supposed business case that players deserve to get paid more simply because the schools are making a lot of money doesn't hold any water and that paying players and an open transfer portal has to come with other limitations. I don't have an issue with players making some money, but the completely unregulated portal and NIL system that exists right now is unsustainable and is bad for the sport.
Your comments that the average worker in corporate America is unskilled is ridiculous, some are and some aren't, that's how averages work. CFB players are easily replaced too. If they weren't, these money making programs would suffer a revenue hit when star players graduate or transfer or get injured but they somehow keep chugging right along. Forgive me if I don't listen to some Sarah McLachlan and whip out my checkbook for these players that already receive hundreds of thousands in benefits for free, before they ever see $1 of NIL money. They have incredibly privileged lives and benefits as it stood long before NIL was a thing.
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You're giving the average worked way too much credit. Football players have a specific skill and top players are not easily replaceable.
"Average" workers and "top" football players are not the same thing. I would have assumed that would be obvious.
Is it? Most football players aren't as replaceable as a janitor, fast food worker or countless other menial jobs. To play Big Ten football you need to be a legit athlete, you need size and speed, you need countless things other than the willingness to do mundane work all day
I'm done with the bickering with you because it adds nothing of value to the board. You are always intentionally obtuse and shift your arguments around whenever someone tries to make a point about the holes in your logic.
How was it obtuse? You're hole in my logic was top players are the same as average employees. Top employees with skill sets are paid hire. Average paid employees at most companies are easier to replace than a 6'5"/298 pound lineman or a safety that runs in the 4.5s or 4.6s with skill. You just don't want to accept that. You don't need to "bicker".
No, they don’t. There are numerous students that work full time and carry a full course load. And they do so without free tutoring and getting classes off or preferred scheduling.
What percentage of 18-22 year old are working full time and attending Penn State full time? Just a guess. Less than 1% seem fair?
I know people that had part-time jobs when I was in college but no one was working "full time".
In addition, his defense of way out of balance CEO pay is also misguided. Most “superstar” CEOs are fungible. Remember what a “genius” Jack Welch - the original rock star CEO was - such a genius he drove GE into a ditch.
Actually took his name out of the portal today and is back @ MSU.
When you prepare a report, or negotiate a sale/purchase, or what ever at work….is your company paid tens of millions to put it on national tv? Do people across the nation arrange their schedule so they can watch you at work? Do bookies in Vegas, online, and associates of Quito set odds on your success rate?
Do millions cheer when you make that sale or complete your presentation? Do they throw beer on you when you fail? Or curse you on social media?
Yeah….that’s what I thought.
Jack Welch saved GE and made it a global power once again, taking its market cap from $12 billion to $410 billion. It was Jeffery Immelt that destroyed the House that Jack Built.
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Eh - it was Welch who turned GE from a manufacturing behemoth into a financial deck of cards. Maybe someone more capable than Immelt (who Welch hand picked to succeed him) could have gotten GE back on track when things went south, but it was Welch who set the disaster in motion.
The story of GE is almost the story of American manufacturing writ large - we don’t make anything anymore.
I do agree with your points about the special skills of revenue sports athletes
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That’s why I don’t boo any athlete psu or opponent I also don’t make them hero’s. I enjoy their athleticism and the game. I don’t know anything about their personal life to know if their good or bad.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Take a look at the typical division 1 players schedule.
Player's schedule
I worked all the way through college. Never had an issue actually had 20000 saved when I graduated.
If one of those players doesn’t play, do all those people not turn on the game or not arrange their schedule to watch? After a player leaves the school, do all those people stop watching? Yeah, that’s what I thought.
My son’s roommate in college was a D-1 football player and my son was a D-1 baseball player, I know exactly what their schedules are.
It’s also great for research. Idiots tend not to do it. He should look up Gino Toretta.
And what percent do you believe work 40+ hours plus take 15-18 credits between the ages of 18-22? Again, less than 1 percent?
I agree. I don't think I knew one person when I was in college who did that and I knew way more than 100 people between the ages of 18 - 22.
Right? I knew "non-traditional" students that were older going back to school that did that but no one 18-22.
The College Transfer Portal Twitter page believes an Auburn commitment is coming soon for Payton Thorne
According to the College Transfer Portal Twitter page, Payton Thorne could be committing to Auburn soon.
Auburn possibly soon for Thorne.
REPORT: Where Michigan State football transfers Payton Thorne and Keon Coleman are rumored to have interest
It looks like some teams are already talking to Keon Coleman and Payton Thorne
spartanswire.usatoday.com
Sounds like bidding war for Coleman. USC, Tennessee, Miami, and LSU.
No way he goes to USC. QB play is terrible, or so I’ve been told.The College Transfer Portal Twitter page believes an Auburn commitment is coming soon for Payton Thorne
According to the College Transfer Portal Twitter page, Payton Thorne could be committing to Auburn soon.www.si.com
Auburn possibly soon for Thorne.
REPORT: Where Michigan State football transfers Payton Thorne and Keon Coleman are rumored to have interest
It looks like some teams are already talking to Keon Coleman and Payton Thorne
Sounds like bidding war for Coleman. USC, Tennessee, Miami, and LSU.
Is their rent paid for them? Is their food paid for them? Are they getting a hundred thousand plus for an education? All for a part time job.
