NCAA seeds discussions (brackets out @8 pm)
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Only takes 7 scoring wrestlers to maintain that perennial status.
With LL, BB, SVN, Kasak, MM, and Carter, I'd bet the over on 3.5. Granted, other than MM, each has a difficult task, but would anyone bet against any of these to win?
I'm stunned that the coaches moved Lilledahl all the way up from 8 to 2, ahead of Ventresca who won ACCs over Robinson.
This means Lilledahl is likely the 1, with H2H over Ramos.
Though purely on the coaches rank, getting the 2 is an easier path.
1 gets Spratley in the quarters amd Figueroa in the semis
2 gets Smith and Ventresca.
This means Lilledahl is likely the 1, with H2H over Ramos.
Though purely on the coaches rank, getting the 2 is an easier path.
1 gets Spratley in the quarters amd Figueroa in the semis
2 gets Smith and Ventresca.
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Coaches ranks, RPI:
Lilledahl 2, 10
Davis 5, 5
Beau 2, 5
Van Ness 3, 2
Kasak 1, 1
Mesenbrink 1, 1
Bearclaw 4, 3
Haines 2, 3
Carter 1, 7
Barr 4, 10
Kerk 2, 3
Snacks 14, 11
Lilledahl 2, 10
Davis 5, 5
Beau 2, 5
Van Ness 3, 2
Kasak 1, 1
Mesenbrink 1, 1
Bearclaw 4, 3
Haines 2, 3
Carter 1, 7
Barr 4, 10
Kerk 2, 3
Snacks 14, 11
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The 184 RPI rankings tells me all I need to know about what a joke it is. And I’ll bet Carter beating Angelo instead of Arnold in the dual hurt his RPI.
LL at 2 and Davis at 5 are pleasant surprises. Beau should be ranked ahead of Hardy, though it's not a big surprise he's not. All the other coaches ranks look on the mark.
Not so sure about that. Ferrari had a higher Win % than Arnold and beat Plott and Bockman. That match might have helped Carter's RPI.
If the 141 ranks hold, then 4 Mendez vs 5 Alirez in the quarters with Beau on the opposite side. Awesome!
But that would mean Hardy retaining the 1 despite his H2H lossea vs Beau and 3 Happel. Seems unlikely.
Beau bumping to 1 with everyone else the same is the worst-case draw.
I think Luke's quickness and re-attacks where he can get to an angle benefit him most when his opponents are active on their feet. This plays into Luke's wheelhouse. I foresee more wrestlers trying to wrestle him conservatively from neutral. From what I have seen, Spratley and Figueroa are active on their feet, whereas we have seen how Smith tries to slow things down in neutral against Luke. I don't know enough about Ventresca at this point.
Again if the ranks hold, Barr would have a good draw. Beard or Salazar in the quarters, then Cardenas in the semis. Buchanan, Ford Focus, Little, Surber, Munoz all on the other side.
With Trephan at 2 and Kerk at 3 in RPI, does that make Trephan the 3 and Kerk the 4 in the matrix?
That was some great analysis. It illustrates the much different scoring dynamics at the national tournament where the field is larger and the talent is more condensed compared to the conference tournaments where the fields are smaller and the talent more diluted.
Arnold got ranked 9.
If that holds as his seed, then he'll have an opportunity to lose to Jaxon Smith 1 round before Carter, just like last weekend.
If that holds as his seed, then he'll have an opportunity to lose to Jaxon Smith 1 round before Carter, just like last weekend.
If I have to watch Smith and Arnold again, I'm going to claw my eyes out.
Not too shabby to have eight Penn State wrestlers in the top three and all ten in the top five!
That may be true, but it seems like 141 is a toss-up no matter how it is seeded. I could see several different champions if the tournament was contested several times. Among the top 141ers, how would you rate Beau against each? I only ask because I value your informed opinion whereas I am not very familiar with some of the other wrestlers.
Kathy Lee has an extra pair of glasses to protect your eyes!
Kerk would mathematically be the 4.
Trephan most likely the 3. Slight chance he beats Steveson for the 2 but that hinges on QW, which most likely goes to Steveson. (Steveson wrestled an excellent schedule, just not snough for an RPI.)
If the matrix says Steveson, Hendrickson, and Trephan beat each other, then I'd expect the committee to list them in that order.
Arnold could save your eyea by losing the opener to the 24 seed.
Kueter is ranked 6. He'd have an interesting draw: giant-killer Pitzer in Round 2, but then Trepham in the quarters.
I recommend starting with the White Claw and working up from there.
I would pay to see two wrestlers get DQd for stalling in the same match. It has to have happened somewhere
@mcpat Is it possible to White Claw your eyea out?
Yeah but that's garbage. This is a great example of humans needing to override the computer. Wrestling doesn't need the championship bout in the semis.
Thia assumes Steveson gets the 1. He didn't get an RPI, so Hendrickson likely gets it with a probable edge in QW.
Agreed, Steveson and Kerk should be separated. Many, many instances when the finals were contested in the semis, but this case is unique.
So Kerk has only one loss and that to arguably the most dominant wrestler in the nation and gets knocked to #4 to have to face that wrestler again? That is a tough outcome for Kerk! I am no seeding expert in the least, but that outcome doesn't sit well with me.
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