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Football Ohio State defeats Penn State, 20-13

Well we will have to disagree.

Our defense stopped their running game for the most part
Not sure what game Lando was viewing but we were gouged. Has it not been said all year we have undersized D lineman? This is what happens with undersized D Lineman as a game goes on. Only pressure we get is when we sale something out to create pressure.
 
Franklin doesn't lose to team he should beat
We'll beat Minnesota and Wisconsin
We weren't expected to win this game--we were a home underdog
He just did. That was the worst OSU team in years, they were banged up, we had them at home.

You were putting 20k on the game right? Sounds like a game you thought we should and would win quite easily.

Make up your mind.
 
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You are a moron. I know what reality is. The calls benefited one team today like always.
The calls benefited only Ohio State today--they must be celebrating the touchback call on the fumble I guess or ruling Howard down on what would have been a first down completion. Just further proof how you only remember what you think went against us
The officials were consistent today--no offensive holding--the only defensive holding i believe was on Ohio State
 
I’ll call BS on your initial sentence.
PSU has D-2 level wide receivers, too small on the interior defensive line, below usual standards at linebacker. And can’t quite match speed with most Top 10 teams.
If WRs are no threat to stretch the field, defenses can concentrate on jamming up the running game and ganging up on the standout TE.

And, yet, despite having talent that apparently struggles to match up with Kent St., we somehow were a normal goal line call, or a completed catch, or a proper video review away from being tied or beating a team that has only lost to the #1 team in the nation by a point, in an away game.
 
He just did. That was the worst OSU teamin years, they were banged up, we had them at home.

You were putting 20k on the game right? Sounds like a game you thought we should and would win quite easily.

Make up your mind.
Ohio State was favored, right?
I didn't bet on our game today--I said that all week
Currently pissed that Diaz blew an 11 point lead in the 3rd quarter and couldn't stay within 20 of Miami
Not sure why you think I bet on Penn State today
 
AlwayswrongLando... no one said "since 2022" except you.
Stop being a fraud. It gets tiring.
My head hurts--I did say 2022 because that's why your claim doesn't mean anything now
A couple years ago, yes, you were right to be concerned
Now you're not--he's advanced from that to being Mark Richt
 
Not sure what game Lando was viewing but we were gouged. Has it not been said all year we have undersized D lineman? This is what happens with undersized D Lineman as a game goes on. Only pressure we get is when we sale something out to create pressure.

We may have had undersized D-lineman, but our defense only gave up 3tds and one was because of a very stupid penalty.

If our D gives up net 13 points to OSU at home, we should win.

We didn't. It wasn't due to our D geting 'gouged'
 
Big turnover after this season. Franklin needs to hit the portal hard, but likely he won't for whatever reason. NIL, loyalty, ..... Need 2 starting WR's, 2 DE's to start with.
Where was Fleming today - the guy many had earmarked as a savior. OSU wide receivers did not break us today. Their QB outplayed ours for sure. Drew is better than last year but only incrementally. Sorry folks - it’s not the wide outs.
 
My head hurts--I did say 2022 because that's why your claim doesn't mean anything now
A couple years ago, yes, you were right to be concerned
Now you're not--he's advanced from that to being Mark Richt

OK so your argument that "Franklin doesn't lose games he should win" is based on two years of his coaching at PSU but not the other 8 years of him coaching at PSU prior to this year.

So when you make statements it's on 20% sample size.

LOL. Dude you are getting pwnd.
 
My head hurts--I did say 2022 because that's why your claim doesn't mean anything now
A couple years ago, yes, you were right to be concerned
Now you're not--he's advanced from that to being Mark Richt
Even Richt had more 'success.' But, yes, the ideal comparison, no doubt.
 
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Where was Fleming today - the guy many had earmarked as a savior. OSU wide receivers did not break us today. Their QB outplayed ours for sure. Drew is better than last year but only incrementally. Sorry folks - it’s not the wide outs.

That's BS. Drew had no guys open. Almost zero. When he did, he threw to them.

I'm generally negative Drew. But he played a heck of a game today.

LdN
 
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And how many times has Carter, in his zeal to rush, not set the edge and let the OSU QB run free around his side for a first down...... Carter seemed to have a bigger impact at LB. Sure he had 2 sacks but with OSU running well the sacks didn't matter much. His play at DE does not lead to a solid, top 10 team defense.
Agree. He still does not set the edge well enough to contain mobile QBs. That was one of my keys to winning. Discipline in your responsibility. They allowed Howard to get outside too often.
 
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I dont believe that NIL made that much of a difference in this game. The game was there for the taking and the players didnt make plays. Did any receiver make a reception? Something is really wrong here and I dont blame it on the receivers completely. Drew makes very little throws with tight windows. I think Pribula would have got us the win. Oh Well, have a good weekend.
 
I will say it again. You had one job in the office season and you didn't do it. Your job was to get ONE play making receiver.

Play of the day was their DB coming down with the catch when our WR had the ball hit his hands. AND putting his foot inbounds.

That's where the big talent gap is between these teams.
 
Imagine being outclassed in every area, and still being 1 normal goal line call away from a tie or a win.

I wonder how that happens.

I wonder if we’d beat them by 20 just by being as good as them in a few areas, and being worse than them in the others?

The math isn’t mathing.

OSU was the road team. They threw a pick 6. They were 2 yards from a TD and Wheatley punched the ball free. If Howard was a good passer, Smith has a walk in TD.

Our RBs had 42 rushing yards on 18 rushes. Our WRs had 3 receptions.

Thinking it was meaningful that we had a 4th and goal down 7 in the 4th quarter is a poor take. We had it and was completely shut down. That's what was meaningful.
 
Agree. He still does not set the edge well enough to contain mobile QBs. That was one of my keys to winning. Discipline in your responsibility. They allowed Howard to get outside too often.
Rick did you happen to see my previous posts concerning this matter? I agree with you totally. Carter is all about highlight reels and the hype.
 
I will say it again. You had one job in the office season and you didn't do it. Your job was to get ONE play making receiver.
Two times in the 5 with zero points. It is play-calling. CJF had his grubby little fingers in red zone again. Sorry, I have to believe that AK is better than this old sad story. The opportunities were there.
 
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You need to go to OSU's Eleven Warriors and read their complaining throughout the game on how their DEs (Sawyer and that JT guy) were getting held by PSU's OL. But wait, according to you, that only happens to PSU even though they've lost every game since 2016. OK, whatever you say
 
Assuming we win our last 4 and we get a home game.

Even then it hurts us. It will hurt our final ranking and it will hurt recruiting.
I don't believe for a second a 7 point loss at home hurts recruiting
Where you and I likely differ is I think there's an advantage not to play in the CCG. Obviously if you win its great but an extra game that can hurt you.
 
The calls benefited only Ohio State today--they must be celebrating the touchback call on the fumble I guess or ruling Howard down on what would have been a first down completion. Just further proof how you only remember what you think went against us
The officials were consistent today--no offensive holding--the only defensive holding i believe was on Ohio State
The touchback call was obvious. So was Howard being down. Just like the INT in the end zone that benefitted OSU was obvious. The pick/fumble or incompletion was pretty obvious, too ... but still went the wrong direction.

I would have thought you'd have enough brains to quit on this topic when you claimed there's holding everywhere on every play, then kept repeating it over and over again without supporting it, and then you couldn't come up with anything when called out on it ... but then I remembered who I was dealing with. You're just going to keep on keeping on.
 
Two times in the 5 with zero points. It is play-calling. CJF had his grubby little fingers in red zone gain. Sorry, I have to believe that AK is better than this old sad story. The opportunities were there.
Kind of reminiscent of the Eagles offense this year.
 
You need to go to OSU's Eleven Warriors and read their complaining throughout the game on how their DEs (Sawyer and that JT guy) were getting held by PSU's OL. But wait, according to you, that only happens to PSU even though they've lost every game since 2016. OK, whatever you say
Both OLs did the same thing and the refs let them play. Both fan bases are absurd
 
Where was Fleming today - the guy many had earmarked as a savior. OSU wide receivers did not break us today. Their QB outplayed ours for sure. Drew is better than last year but only incrementally. Sorry folks - it’s not the wide outs.
The WRs created no space. At some point they have to perform.
 
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OSU has a better offense, better defense, better special teams, better quarterback and most importantly, better coaching.

Tough to overcome That.
True but we should still be able to win a few of these games. Not the majority but maybe 33%.

Our star players (Allar, Singleton, Allen, Sutton, Carter, etc.) were part of the #6 ranked class in the nation. OSU can make the big play when they need it and PSU can't. A lot of that is certainly talent but IMO there's more to it than that.
 
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Mr. "Never take out your elite QB" is saying this? Contradict much?

Of course they should have had in Warren there. Or Beau...
I've said all year...Warren makes sense not Beau. With Warren you're not subbing. Beau was so bad in the first half they finally stopped that nonsense.
 
That was before the embarrassing penalties. The taunting penalty was a killer. It reset OSU and they scored to get back in. James did not 'correct' these things like he always says.
These penalties are why Penn State loses games to equal or better teams almost every time. The time to stop this nonsense is early on in the season, when these jackasses are jumping around like a rodeo clown after making a stop. It’s too late now.
 
I've seen enough of Traut and/or the S&C program as well...our OL are soft guys that can't push anyone of substance around. The running game has been an embarrassment the last 2 seasons.
 
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I have been watching this game every year from the wrong perspective.

I should not watch hoping for a win. That almost guarantees a letdown. Thinking we have a chance is stupidity.

Instead I should watch hoping for new types of controversy -- that some player, coach, or official will find a new and creative way to blow it. On that score we are winners. We have preserved the entertainment value of the game each year.
 
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True but we should still be able to win a few of these games. Not the majority but maybe 33%.

Our star players (Allar, Singleton, Allen, Sutton, Carter, etc.) were part of the #6 ranked class in the nation. OSU can make the big play when they need it and PSU can't. A lot of that is certainly talent but IMO there's more to it than that.

Singleton isn't the player he was two seasons ago.

He can't run between the tackles and he can't run outside the tackles.
 
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