I think Tomlin and Franklin should swap positions. Then both team's fans will have fresh reasons to bitch for the next decade.
Justifiably.
Justifiably.
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Franklin gets way more credit for recruiting than he deserves. He's a good, maybe great, definitely not elite recruiter. He typically ends recruiting seasons ranked somewhere between 10 and 15.
Of the 4 guys you mention, only Nick Singleton was a consensus 5 star.
I have to admit that during the pre-game interview he said that he looks forward to getting the ball in his hands at the end to WIN the game. I was thinking to myself that he needs to go to Cael school. You want the ball at the end of the game to have fun and perform as well as you have trained to play.
Making us grateful for wrestling?
Kotelnicki hasn't called a good game since before tOSU. Constantly throwing when he should be pounding the rock. Drew played terribly, but AK has not done a good job.
Solid game plan. Had some bad football luck, 2 DBs fall down on the same play resulting in a long TD pass. Carter somehow can’t come up with a fumble at the end of the first half.
The game came down to which QB could make some plays in the passing game. Leonard made some, Allar failed miserably.
Allar even competent last night PSU wins in a blowout. That simple.
The game came down to which QB could make some plays in the passing game. Leonard made some, Allar failed miserably.
Allar even competent last night PSU wins in a blowout. That simple.
You are spot on about Drew. He did not make plays and was woefully inconsistent. It was like the moment was too big for him.
Credit to ND who I am sure threw some wrinkles that confused Drew, but his decisions were poor and his accuracy iffy. He had receivers open all night per the broadcast crew. The int at the end was abysmal WTF moment. You had singleton open in flat as a check down. Bad decision making at the qb position. In all honesty I think Prebula as the starter would have won this particular game.
Lucky we get to wash most of the stink of the loss last night by watching the greatest Penn State sports team in a generation tonight. Will ride the wrestling wave through March. Thank god for Cael!
Check out the line for the receivers. They are the Achilles HeelS of this team.
I am less impressed by the game plan. As an ND fan I am pretty surprised PSU failed to capitalize on their complete domination at the line of scrimmage.
All I’m gonna say about football…. Please keep JF away from Cael. That is all.
I’m pretty sure Iron leaves a deeper impression on clay than the opposite. @Dogwelder
Once again our football coaches were outcoached in a big game in the second half. It happens every single time. ND made noticeable adjustments in the second half and it paid off for them.
Our receivers caught zero balls for zero yards. That's not on the coaches
We will have to agree to disagree on this.
Who recruited the receivers? The coaches
Who teaches the receivers to get separation? The coaches
Who game plans schemes and mechanisms to get receivers open? The coaches
Who makes sure the QB is loose and the moment isn't too big for him? The coaches
Who works with the QB to improve accuracy? The coaches
Who makes adjustments if the passing game isn't working? The coaches
Talent is great but greatness comes from coaches.
Anyone else wake up at 2am with an Int stuck on the brain? A win last night would've really helped the program but now I'm concerned it could make it step back. The team has been moving in right direction but damnit if it isn't a snals pace.
I think guys have been coached since grade school how to catch the ball, and get open. If these guys can't do it it's on them.
0 catches for 0 yards for the receivers, again it's not on the coaches.
I assume D1 receivers have at least caught a ball before and have been open already. Same as the defenders . I assume they've been coached to not fall down.
The coaches went into the portal to recruit those recievers. Julian Fleming did not cut it at tOSU for a reason.
This
Drew - It feels like we are witnessing his first brushes ever with pressure and adversity in these big games. I think a great coach(hint: he's bald and undefeated) once was quoted that responses in these situations are not innate but learned. He's got a lot of lessons left.
Kotelnicki has had worse games, but he still lacks feel and sequencing.
Yes the WRs have been bad for 3 seasons, can't fall on anyone but the coaching staff (along with what you list).
Either they're not recruiting well enough, developing well enough, or some combo of the 2. 100% on the staff and Franklin would be the first to say so.
But the thing is, they will roll back next year with Hagans as the coach. I had my doubts about the OL but boy did they come on at the end of the year. I was wrong, they are a strength of the team.
Funny thing is that Franklin has lamented, at different times, about having "that guy" at QB (after the 2018 season), and having a big imposing OL (after Michigan in 2022). He got that 5 star QB, he had an OL road grading for 144 in the first half. Like Joe Diffie said, "it's always something".
Only so much you can do when the QB can't hit the broad side of the barn unless it's to one guy. Kotelnicki did plenty enough in a game where he essentially didn't get to use 2-3 guys/play. There's a reason that when Drew throws it accurately to WRs they are next to impossible to stop, like in the Oregon game.
Its not the first brush with adversity for Drew. He was awful at Ohio State last year. He was awful against Michigan last year. Both those games essentially knocked PSU out of the playoff. He was bad against Ohio State this year. He was awful last night. He was okay against Oregon, however since they were already playoff bound, I would not call that a high pressure situation.
If I was Franklin I would have Cael introduce Allar to Bonnie and see if it helps. Even Bonnie and Cael have not helped everyone. There have been a few PSU wrestlers who have not dealt well with pressure/adversity.
Some people are mentally weak, hopefully Allar is not one of them.
It is a shame, they got down 17-10, marched down the field to tie it, make a huge interception and then take the lead. Then you have 2 PSU DBs fall down and turn a short gain into a 50+ yard TD.
Have these men been taught to catch and run routes? Have defenders been taught to not fall on their asses? Has a five star recruit been taught to throw a ball ?
Yes they have. It's not always coaching. The players performed poorly . Assuming it's always coaching is assuming there is no difference in ability, motivation, personal habits etc.
Again the receivers had zero catches for 0 yards. If they've ever caught the ball before, got open before or gained any yards on any receptions previous to this game that means they had the ability and they were taught how to do it. They choked.
It's crazy that they have the best tight end, edge rusher, and backfield (arguably) in the country but have no receivers. They would boat race Notre Dame, and beat Ohio State with one big time receiver. Jahan Dotson would do just fine. Whatever happened to physical receivers like Godwin and Allen Robinson (I mean ones who can get open).
But for this game in a vacuum, they win that game by 2 touchdowns if Allar has just an average game. The moment was too big for him. Hopefully it's not a terminal situation. Singleton could've caught that pass at the goalline but he surely wasn't expecting to be kneecapped by it. Allar's mechanics looked really bad at times. Pressure, I think.
But for this game in a vacuum, they win that game by 2 touchdowns if Allar has just an average game. The moment was too big for him. Hopefully it's not a terminal situation. Singleton could've caught that pass at the goalline but he surely wasn't expecting to be kneecapped by it. Allar's mechanics looked really bad at times. Pressure, I think.
Yes it is crazy. Especially considering Franklin has recruited well during his time at Penn State, both in high school and the portal. Not to an Ohio State level, but they probably have the worst WR group in the Big Ten.
yea, but I don't see separation... so coaching could be a part of better route running or scheme. On one of the last plays where he rolled left, it looked like Warren was the intended receiver and only receiver... I would think a play in that situation called for some options. I see that a lot... but then again don't have other insight...
Another good anecdote I heard was about Kaden Saunder “grew up in Columbus and there’s a reason they never took a sniff at him”
Not sure how PSU being a blue blood can’t do better than bringing in the 40 something and 50 something ranked WR transfers for next year either
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