Our playoff destiny is in our own hands. PSU has no one to blame but themselves if they don’t win these last four games, in ALL of which they will be huge favorites.
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What has he won? They survived against a 500 Michigan team. If you watched them today it's very clear we're a better team and Ohio State is going to be favored by about 20
Surprised Michigan didn't get bailed out on a bs PI call on their last drive. What do you think Lando??? Good no call there? Did the ref blow it and alter the game???
Like that’s never happened before. College football has a long tradition of sleazebag coaches cheating to win while raking in the big money then getting out of Dodge before the posse arrives.
Sorry, but I'm conditioned from the experience of 50 years to Penn State being screwed.
Logic says if we win out, we're in. And I agree that if we don't win out, we have no right to complain whatever happens.
Still, I'm not sure there isn't a way for them to screw us over even if we do win out.
Therefore, I was rooting for Indiana to lose today. And they happened to be playing toothless Michigan. So therefore I was rooting for Michigan...without apology.
Yup, look up the name Bobby Collins among a number of others.
But nobody has pulled it off quite so successfully and for so much profit as Harbaugh.
I take nothing for granted, Lando.
If the system can find a way to screw us over, it will.
Penn State got virtually every break today in every game. Miami lost, Georgia lost, Indiana showed that they are beatable. Penn State just needs to take care of business tonight and they are in the top 5 for sure.
You should. No one is against us. We can lose another game and still easily get in. Might even get a home game
I respect your hard-earned cynicism. I absolutely get it. However, in this situation it’s completely unfounded.
I hope you're right, Chris.
But you know what they say: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't really out to get you.
We are in by winning out. Stop worrying about that. Our seed still up in the air. If Indiana beats OSU then we are B10#4 which means we slip to #8 or #9 but I think #8. If Indiana loses to OSU then we stay as B10 #3 and are most likely a #6 or #7. This Georgia loss means all the SEC teams are working their way to 2 losses. Only Texas and Tennessee with one loss and I think Georgia beats Tenn in Athens. That means the SEC ccg loser could have 3 losses. I don't see them putting a 3 loss SEC team ahead of a one loss Penn State team even if they did go to the SEC ccg. In that case (SEC ccg loser with 3 losses) I think we should be a 6 seed.
Thanks, y'all are making me feel better with these assurances.
But until the horses are in the barn...and the barn door is locked...I will have the concern based on bitter decades-long history that if they can find a way to screw us over, they will.
I just can't with this nonsense. Accept it is 2024 and the Big Ten/SEC are all powerful. Which, just FYI, we are in the Big Ten
Haven't read through the other threads, but wow, every time I switch the channel to the Oregon game and Maryland has the ball the secondary for Oregon gets away with MURDER!!! Holding, interference, it's been blatant.
"Let them play" applies in this game just as it did in our game with OSU.
This has the smell of B1G conference bias to protect its top two teams. To me this sort of thing has been noticeable in other conferences, or is this bias something I am creating in my head because I expect corruption in our society?
The system has not evolved yet to be like the NFL, but to be fair and remove the possible perception of bias I think it should have division level officiating instead of conference officiating.
"Let them play" applies in this game just as it did in our game with OSU.
This has the smell of B1G conference bias to protect its top two teams. To me this sort of thing has been noticeable in other conferences, or is this bias something I am creating in my head because I expect corruption in our society?
The system has not evolved yet to be like the NFL, but to be fair and remove the possible perception of bias I think it should have division level officiating instead of conference officiating.
Utah is flying around. Right now BYU is close only because of a kickoff TD - the Utes are swarming on D
BYU is now a problem. By far the worst undefeated team left and they have literally played nobody all year long
This is where we come back to that discussion last week about the uselessness of conference championship games..except for the purpose of a league sneaking a team that would otherwise not qualify into the playoff field.
The Big-12 should only be getting one team and that would be BYU. But if BYU gets upset in the league's championship game by a 2- or 3-loss team, which is a real possibility, then the Big-12 gets two teams in and that second team likely takes the place of a more worthy SEC or Big-10 team.
Doubtful unless you're worried about a 3 loss SEC team. Big XII is in real trouble. The ACC now can't get two with Pitt and Miami losing.
The Big Ten and SEC are guaranteed 7 probably 8 and may get 9. Only ND and BYU have any shot at an at-large.
At least one 3 loss SEC team will make it.
Even Palm has stopped his usual nonsense of more than one from the ACC or Big XII.
Greene wasn't benched. He has a concussion but is now cleared. You can say what you want about him and yes, when he's bad he costs us but you don't know enough to know why he makes the mistakes he makes. Those 4 INT's in the ISU/KSU games was because he tries to do too much. Sometimes' he gets so competitive he doesn't know when to just eat the ball, throw it away, etc. Plus, the playcalling O-strategy stunk in those 2 games. You didn't complain when he played a near flawless game against OSU or when he won the game for us against KU. If not for him WVU doesn't win 9 games last year. He was way more dynamic than Nicco. He still lacks touch on deep balls but if you look at the stats from yesterday's games, I don't know how you can say they won just because of Nicco. The defense did with a pick 6, scoop and score and another fumble recovery. All forced turnovers. Nicco was serviceable but he really hasn't played that great this year in limited time.
I said "should have benched Greene long ago" so I apologize--I know he was injured but they need to bench him to give them the best chance to win.
I've never not complained about Greene--he was awful last year--see the completion percentage
He's literally the most overrated QB in decades because of McAfee.
Marchiol > Greene and this whole board can tell you I've always said that.
If Greene returns, WVU's offense will suffer because of it. He'll continue to turn the ball over and his "moxie" will cost you games--see Houston last year with him acting like a toddler.
You can defend your guy all you want but Marchiol is better than Greene
