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Penn State heads into the 2023 postseason in pursuit of its 10th NCAA team title in the Cael Sanderson era. Here's a film series about how their rapid rise.
Penn State Wrestling's Rise To Prominence Under Cael Sanderson
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Penn State heads into the 2023 postseason in pursuit of its 10th NCAA team title in the Cael Sanderson era. Here's a film series about how their rapid rise.www.flowrestling.org
is this the documentary they put out without talking to a single PSU'er?
Probably. In Flo’s defense (I am no fan but do appreciate any free or reliable wrestling coverage) Cael and team weren’t going to talk to them.
I was at the last practice before nationals back in late 10’s, and Cael wrapped it with:
“Up until semi-finals you have no media obligations. Talk to ESPN if you want. Don’t talk to Flo. If you make semis or finals you might get pulled to talk to ESPN. Don’t talk to Flo.”
I watched a few minutes of the Flo series and plan to watch the rest.
I was at the last practice before nationals back in late 10’s, and Cael wrapped it with:
“Up until semi-finals you have no media obligations. Talk to ESPN if you want. Don’t talk to Flo. If you make semis or finals you might get pulled to talk to ESPN. Don’t talk to Flo.”
I watched a few minutes of the Flo series and plan to watch the rest.
I am probably out of the loop here, but what are Cael's issues with Flo?
Just a guess here but maybe streaming issues.
There was this one year that Cael was completely lost and needed a plan. Cael asked a guy from Flo for one and he refused to give Cael one. Unfortunate situation if you ask me…
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Yeah it is unfortunate. Pyles still suffers from PTSD and must wear depends for his body reactions to the words "Cael", "plan" or "Penn State".
He did allow his son to blurt out that he wished Penn State would get nailed for steroids on 1 FRL - with only a mild protest at the time.
So there’s that
For real? I missed that. If you were to take a guess, where do you think his son got the idea that PSU had a steroid issue to even say that?
From the Junior Hawkeye Report board?
It was likely in the last 2-3 months. You could probably sift through the archive show notes and see when he was on. He hasn’t been on since and it was the first time in years so it’s not like there are several shows to re-listen to. I mean, he’s just a kid, but that didn’t sit right.
Junior Hawkeye Report?
You've been to the real HR. A 12 year old (or however old this kid is) would fit right in.
I seem to recall his son coming on to do Iowa preseason picks back before the season began (maybe Oct/Nov). I don’t recall a discussion about steroids and PSU but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
Edit: his son was on on November 2, 2022 starting around 54:50
It's the clown Pyles. That dude is pond scum.
I just imagined a place where Junior Nicolls found out for his dad which single moms were struggling with rent, from their kids.
Good sleuthing. I caught it around 1:11:40ish
Askren was laughing hard at the time, but JD repeated the comment so everyone could hear
are you all really complaining about a 10 year old iowa superfan? you've won 9 team titles. have some dignity.
You guys have 24. And, hell, have you read 34 and Holding recently? There’s more dignity amongst Truck Stop Whores than among those beaten down Cowboys
To be fair most of theirs were pre-world war II.
A lot of debate there about who was better, Flood or Peery. The good old days.
During the Great Depression is when the developed their weight management program.
Getting drafted was the original covid year
OSU National Championship Celebration
Their best team was the one that barnstormed through Ancient Europe and beat the Visigoths on criteria
IMO Cael's beef with Flo started when they pulled NLWC Tax Forms in 2017 and you clearly could tell they were trying to imply cheating because we had an absurd amount of money.
99% of people in wrestling don't understand what an endowment is. They just see 5M (and it's probably north of 10M now) and assume that's what PSU pays out every year to our wrestlers. No, that's not how it works. Yes - we had a large donation that year, it was meant to be an investment endowment that grows every year and pays a good bit of passive income (dividends/interest) that allows us to partially pay our wrestlers a good bit in addition to donations. Also, with wise investments, the endowment will significantly grow over time.
Through that, you have people literally believing that we use that money to pay our wrestlers under the table to bypass the 9.9 scholarships. No - we have lost recruits regularly because we consider how to divvy up scholarships and who is feasibly willing to come for a little less money (or maybe a lot less) than a full ride they'd be offered at most other programs. There's a reason Kasak committed to PSU instead of Shapiro. I'll leave it at that. Rob Koll even openly said "Cael is good at convincing kids to take less for the chance to wrestle for him"
Of course the average fan doesn't get that. Hell, Mason Beckman (a Rudis employee) literally put it on the record he thinks we have 19.9 scholarships.
99% of people in wrestling don't understand what an endowment is. They just see 5M (and it's probably north of 10M now) and assume that's what PSU pays out every year to our wrestlers. No, that's not how it works. Yes - we had a large donation that year, it was meant to be an investment endowment that grows every year and pays a good bit of passive income (dividends/interest) that allows us to partially pay our wrestlers a good bit in addition to donations. Also, with wise investments, the endowment will significantly grow over time.
Through that, you have people literally believing that we use that money to pay our wrestlers under the table to bypass the 9.9 scholarships. No - we have lost recruits regularly because we consider how to divvy up scholarships and who is feasibly willing to come for a little less money (or maybe a lot less) than a full ride they'd be offered at most other programs. There's a reason Kasak committed to PSU instead of Shapiro. I'll leave it at that. Rob Koll even openly said "Cael is good at convincing kids to take less for the chance to wrestle for him"
Of course the average fan doesn't get that. Hell, Mason Beckman (a Rudis employee) literally put it on the record he thinks we have 19.9 scholarships.
I honestly think Beckmans girlfriend left him for a PSU wrestler or something.
Missed that. How old is son? At a certain age he is simply restating what his daddy has babbled. Old enough to articulate his own thoughts then he is an idiot. Anybody who has ever been in a gym where roid use is readily apparent would have a tough time concluding the PSU kids are doing many roids.
Who's complaining? More like mocking his dad + his environment.
Hilarious from a guy whose school provides Needs Based Aid -- they need you, you get aid.
Still takes more shots on Twitter than he ever did on the mat.
I DO like that Flo worked in the 'Do you have a plan?' clip into this documentary. Made me laugh and appreciate that at least Flo has a sense of humor.
I might read that as a contractual agreement / obligation with ESPN. ESPN paid for the rights to televise the tournament and the contract might have included any and all interviews at the tournament.
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