409 wins. In case you were wondering.
Please show proof that they knew he had cancer.HIs cowardly assassins waited until he was 84 years old and suffering from terminal cancer. Surma, Lubert, Masser, Frazier, Joyner, Suhey, Peetz, names that will live in infamy.
Read my post carefully. Now, where did I state they "knew" he was suffering from terminal cancer? What I stated was a fact. He WAS 84 AND he was suffering from terminal cancer.Please show proof that they knew he had cancer.
The best man and coach college football has ever seen. Thrown to the wolves buy a bunch of corrupt ****s. We should have stood together and given these wolves a big middle finger. I have and always will say your name with pride.409 wins. In case you were wondering.
409 wins. In case you were wondering.
They will all burn in hell while Joe is securely in HeavenHIs cowardly assassins waited until he was 84 years old and suffering from terminal cancer. Surma, Lubert, Masser, Frazier, Joyner, Suhey, Peetz, names that will live in infamy.
Joe was so much than the all time wins leader.I think we were so fortunate to have a man of his character as our coach.I can care less what some idiots opinions are of him who really didn't know what Joe was all about
I was talking with a Pitt alum today that I met for the first time. After he pointed out that Pitt beat both the B1G champs and National champs last season, and I told him they then sh.t the bed, he asked me abut the statue being brought back. My answer was that it should never have been taken down in the first place. He of course disagreed, and insisted Joe had to know, and that Joe should have done more after the "quarterback" reported it to him. I saw the way this was going, so I said see you Sept 9th.
Point being, everyone else's mind is made up, and no matter what they are told now or learn, it will never change. Joe was the bad guy, and that's all there is to it.
It likely will only because everyone gets to play a bowl game these days. There was a time going to a bowl game meant something.One of the few records that may never be broken.
Same with his 24 bowl wins. To put that in perspective:
And back in Joe's day there weren't that many bowl games. You didn't get one with 6 or 7 wins.
- Bear Bryant had 15
- Urban Meyer has 10
- Nick Saban has 10
I was talking with a Pitt alum today that I met for the first time. After he pointed out that Pitt beat both the B1G champs and National champs last season, and I told him they then sh.t the bed, he asked me abut the statue being brought back. My answer was that it should never have been taken down in the first place. He of course disagreed, and insisted Joe had to know, and that Joe should have done more after the "quarterback" reported it to him. I saw the way this was going, so I said see you Sept 9th.
Point being, everyone else's mind is made up, and no matter what they are told now or learn, it will never change. Joe was the bad guy, and that's all there is to it.
It likely will only because everyone gets to play a bowl game these days. There was a time going to a bowl game meant something.
Please. Joe could have stepped down at any point for health reasons. His selfishness and ego prevented him from doing it years before when he should have. You have proven nothing.Read my post carefully. Now, where did I state they "knew" he was suffering from terminal cancer? What I stated was a fact. He WAS 84 AND he was suffering from terminal cancer.
What we do know, is that the trustees were aware that JVP was going to step down at the end of the season for health reasons. Paul Suhey was quick to point out that all they did was retire him 2 weeks early.
So perhaps you wish to offer "proof" that these noble men and woman didn't know Joe was terminally ill?
We also know that a very close relative of the lead assassin circulated a letter to football lettermen urging them to see that "the rat" was disgraced before he "checked out." Do you care to deny this?
If kicking dirt on Joe before he died wasn't enough, the OGBOT hired Louis Freeh, who promised he would make every effort to "provide" the desired results. Now are you going to tell me he didn't satisfy the OGBOT desire to denigrate Joe and implicate him in "a conspiracy of silence?" A conspiracy that even Frank Fina found no evidence of JVP's participation.
Joe's major bowl record won't be challenged.That's a very good point but think about it. Saban needs 14 more wins and he's 65 years old. If he coaches until he's 79 years old he would have to go 14-0.
Meyer is only 53 but there is no way he's still coaching for another 14 years.
A person would have to coach for 36 years, get a bowl game every year, and win 2/3 of his games. I don't see the record being broken in our lifetime.
P.S. Joe was an amazing 13-4 in major bowls.
I was talking with a Pitt alum today that I met for the first time. After he pointed out that Pitt beat both the B1G champs and National champs last season, and I told him they then sh.t the bed, he asked me abut the statue being brought back. My answer was that it should never have been taken down in the first place. He of course disagreed, and insisted Joe had to know, and that Joe should have done more after the "quarterback" reported it to him. I saw the way this was going, so I said see you Sept 9th.
Point being, everyone else's mind is made up, and no matter what they are told now or learn, it will never change. Joe was the bad guy, and that's all there is to it.
Joe's major bowl record won't be challenged.
I don't see anymore Paterno's and Bowden's coming along. More in the mold of an Eddie Robinson that coaches forever at a mid major because he loves the control and lack of pressure.
You're correct that no coach at a big time school will touch it.
To a certain extent I agree, but he did have some really good years in 08 and 09.That is true. Because no other big time school is going to let someone coach
until they are 84 years old. PSU should have done Paterno a favor by getting rid of him15 years earlier. He wouldn't have 409 wins but would have his reputation.
To a certain extent I agree, but he did have some really good years in 08 and 09.
It's hard to tell the man that built it "you're no longer needed".
He didn't build it. PSU had fine teams and a new stadium before he took over.
He certainly improved the football program but let's not pretend he created it.
I personally think the administration was cowed by Paterno. and his following
so they let him stay far longer than they should have.
Of course they were put in a no win situation. Paterno was such a rare breed it was impossible to just fire him.He didn't build it. PSU had fine teams and a new stadium before he took over.
He certainly improved the football program but let's not pretend he created it.
I personally think the administration was cowed by Paterno. and his following
so they let him stay far longer than they should have.
That is true. Because no other big time school is going to let someone coach
until they are 84 years old. PSU should have done Paterno a favor by getting rid of him15 years earlier. He wouldn't have 409 wins but would have his reputation.
I was talking with a Pitt alum today that I met for the first time. After he pointed out that Pitt beat both the B1G champs and National champs last season, and I told him they then sh.t the bed, he asked me abut the statue being brought back. My answer was that it should never have been taken down in the first place. He of course disagreed, and insisted Joe had to know, and that Joe should have done more after the "quarterback" reported it to him. I saw the way this was going, so I said see you Sept 9th.
Point being, everyone else's mind is made up, and no matter what they are told now or learn, it will never change. Joe was the bad guy, and that's all there is to it.
They like stirring the pot. Via the internet.crikey finally put someone on ignore who was long overdue
with that said, Joe was incomparable. we were blessed to have him. I often wonder what is missing in someone's life that they must live with such hate and ignorance when it comes to trashing Joe.
You're such an arse. This post wasn't about JS, it was about Joe's incredible record. You can't seem to take enough shots at him.
You're correct that very few will coach until age 84 but it's also true that teams play 2 more games than they did during much of Paterno's career. He also won 75% of his games, something not many have done over an extended period.
Also, not many coaches have won 2/3 of their bowl games or more than 3/4 of major bowls. You've got to sink pretty low to diminish his record.
Baloney. Every twenty minutes some nut creates a tribute to Joe thread on this
board. Then when someone like I inserts some reality into the fawning, the lemmings
are outraged. Get a life.
409 wins. In case you were wondering.
They will all burn in hell while Joe is securely in Heaven