PIAA State Tournament -- AA on 3/12 and AAA on 3/13
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Didn't see his 3rd place results mentioned in this thread, but Steen took 3rd yesterday:
Gary Steen, Reynolds, maj. dec. Owen Reinsel, Brookville, 9-0 |
I get not wanting to affect the outcome, but they over correct to the point that they're doing that anyway. If that's stopped when it should have been at about 30 seconds, I think Swisher probably gets away and we go to overtime.
I'm not a PA guy so I don't know how it normally is, but it almost seems like these officials don't care. They look bored out there. You can't let a guy run out of bounds over and over again. You have to hit him and make him adjust. If he doesn't that's on him.
PA officials get a lot of training, and in most years work a ton of matches. And then they seemingly forget all of it on the biggest stage. (That's probably not fair, but whistles do get swallowed.)
Worst case I remember was about 5 years ago -- 126-ish state finals between Jon Gabriel and Seth Hogue (both wrestled D1). Hogue blatantly retreated to the edge, so badly that Gabriel frequently disengaged and returned to center. Hogue was so slow to return that Gabriel had to leave the center to chase him down. No stall calls.
At one point, Hogue slow-walked back toward but not to center -- and not close to a straight line. Big arc -- picture an egg-shaped path. During live action. Again, no call. Gabriel eventually won, but only because he hit a 5-pt reversal in the last 20 sec. Otherwise all of that stalling would've paid off for Hogue.
The Williams twins and Shindledecker of Chambersburg are to me prototypical District 3 wrestlers from the old days: long, slender, big shoulders, super strong; Most D3 kids today look like the suburban kids they have become, rather than the farm boys they used to be.
I picked all 3 to win states this year. Oh well.
If his Dad is Brian (the only Nasdeo to have wrestled in PA before 2000): 3x state qualifier, never placed.
Karl Shindledecker is a stud! Scores in all positions
Yeah, gotcha. As a fellow old-timer I remember a holiday tournament (at Upper Darby maybe?) where Lower Dauphin came in and dominated, esp. the lower weights. Like -- who are those guys?
D-1 actually had a pretty good run in the mid-to-late 60's
Probably shouldn’t be dragging John down in the mud with the rest of us. What’s next, teaching him the finer points of ragdolling?
Funny but I think I was at that tournament in late 60’s. UD had a really good wrestler around 132 named Davis who got manhandled by a LD kid named Luckenbaugh if memory serves me correctly.. I remember thinking the same. Who are these guys?
edit it was Luckenbaugh but he was from West York -looked it up
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I've decided not to like you. That is one of my least favorite memories. When I was a HS jr, Lower Dauphin came to the Upper Darby Christmas tournament and ran rampant through the light weights. Every kid they had up to 138 was a stud. Seems to me they won the first 4 weight classes including 103. I ran in to one of their monsters in the finals, lost 4-2. They had a kid named Jim Sanders who could have been the Williams twins brother. What a beast. He sent the returning D1 champ to the hospital. OTOH, our 180 pounder knocked off their state finalist in OT so we had that going for us. We had 3 champs.
Another notable bout that night: Bob Funk of Manheim Twp (like the Williams twins) got hammered by Ray Bauer of Haverford, 10-4. He was in the locker room afterwards complaining that he had never lost like that before. I thought he must be a whimp. He proceeded to win his next 50 in a row and become a 2x PIAA heavyweight champ and captain at PSU! Go figure.
Your memory is close. Bill Luckenbaugh was from West York, state champ in '69 at 127. The previous poster was talking about 1964's UD Tourney. Bill had a brother, Dana, who was state champ in '65 at 112 who was never at the UD tourney. He wrestled my brother in the region finals and pretty much tore him apart. My brother dropped from about 150 to 112, and Dana made him look like a little kid. The next year I ran into Dana - he was still wrestling 115 - and asked him what weight did he drop from? He said he came all the way down from 118. He was an absolute monster, and that was his natural weight.
Hawk fans with a huge sigh of relief. Condomitti was up 7-2 after the 2nd.
What a comeback. Henson is such an interesting prospect to me. Rough around the edges, but has a high attack rate and very crisp technique. Mat wrestling and defense need some emphasis, but Iowa is a good program for those. He's one of a bunch of guys they've brought in in that 133-149 range, so if he doesn't work out, it's not a huge let down.
Side note, I've never seen Sammy Henson without some sort of rolled up magazine/program in his hand lol.
People would be shocked to hear who Mapes beat in the semis that year. Hint: future NCAA champ who scared the bejeezus out of Cael.
Yep for some.reason my memory is going could have sworn he won states must be thinking of some of me else lol.
Yeah, this is a place where deer season is a lot more important than wrestling season. To my knowledge, Sullivan County has never had a wrestler make the state finals before.
Probably none.
A single flashing red/yellow light is like Times Square in Sullivan County.
HWT quarters:
Nate Schon (Selinsgrove) F Matthew Cruise (Easton) 2:33
William McChesney (Greensburg Salem) dec Cameron Butka (West Scranton) 7-6
Sean Kinney (Nazareth) F Dawson Dietz (Hampton) 3:50
Isaiah Vance (Hempfield) F Julien Laventure (Upper Darby) 1:10
Minor surprise that Butka lost. But really, this is all about a Schon-Vance final.
Also note: Kinney is a freshman.
Nate Schon (Selinsgrove) F Matthew Cruise (Easton) 2:33
William McChesney (Greensburg Salem) dec Cameron Butka (West Scranton) 7-6
Sean Kinney (Nazareth) F Dawson Dietz (Hampton) 3:50
Isaiah Vance (Hempfield) F Julien Laventure (Upper Darby) 1:10
Minor surprise that Butka lost. But really, this is all about a Schon-Vance final.
Also note: Kinney is a freshman.
Used to? I no longer live in the area, but pretty sure that is still the case.
If you hold a grudge the way you hold the memory of that tournament, royboy is done for.
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