PIAA TEAM DUAL'S AA-AAA

[El-Jefe]

There are plenty of kids on that list I am glad we didn't get or even try. We are reaching higher. And right now there's one that many of you would like to get, and knowing him….I hope he goes elsewhere.

I got a real good idea who Cowbell is talking about, but won't name him because he's still a HS kid. Cowbell knows the kids, and if he says we don't want a kid we think we want, he's right.

But absolutely agree with his larger point. We fans can declare guys as musts all we want based upon what we see on the mat. Most of the time we know little (if anything) about the kid beyond matches. We have no idea if he's a good kid, a good student, a good teammate, if he has good practice habits, if he truly loves the sport or if he merely happens to be good at it and likes when he's winning.

And, when you've amassed the talent Cael has, there are precious few musts. Some guys we want very badly, but we move on if it doesn't work out. Miss Bo Jordan, get Bo Nickal and Mark Hall. Miss Marsteller, get Cenzo. Miss Schram and Lizak and Macri, get Suriano. Miss Spencer Lee, get RBY. Miss Cortez, wait a year and get him anyway. Miss Racciato, get Zain. Things have a way of working out.

In Cael we trust.

 

[jschrantz]

I got a real good idea who Cowbell is talking about, but won't name him because he's still a HS kid. Cowbell knows the kids, and if he says we don't want a kid we think we want, he's right.

But absolutely agree with his larger point. We fans can declare guys as musts all we want based upon what we see on the mat. Most of the time we know little (if anything) about the kid beyond matches. We have no idea if he's a good kid, a good student, a good teammate, if he has good practice habits, if he truly loves the sport or if he merely happens to be good at it and likes when he's winning.

And, when you've amassed the talent Cael has, there are precious few musts. Some guys we want very badly, but we move on if it doesn't work out. Miss Bo Jordan, get Bo Nickal and Mark Hall. Miss Marsteller, get Cenzo. Miss Schram and Lizak and Macri, get Suriano. Miss Spencer Lee, get RBY. Miss Cortez, wait a year and get him anyway. Miss Racciato, get Zain. Things have a way of working out.

In Cael we trust.

Interesting that Iowa and Ohio State are still hard after this kid. Cael refuses to babysit and doesn't have to. A telling difference here in philosophies

 

[pawrestlersintn]

I got a real good idea who Cowbell is talking about, but won't name him because he's still a HS kid. Cowbell knows the kids, and if he says we don't want a kid we think we want, he's right.

But absolutely agree with his larger point. We fans can declare guys as musts all we want based upon what we see on the mat. Most of the time we know little (if anything) about the kid beyond matches. We have no idea if he's a good kid, a good student, a good teammate, if he has good practice habits, if he truly loves the sport or if he merely happens to be good at it and likes when he's winning.

And, when you've amassed the talent Cael has, there are precious few musts. Some guys we want very badly, but we move on if it doesn't work out. Miss Bo Jordan, get Bo Nickal and Mark Hall. Miss Marsteller, get Cenzo. Miss Schram and Lizak and Macri, get Suriano. Miss Spencer Lee, get RBY. Miss Cortez, wait a year and get him anyway. Miss Racciato, get Zain. Things have a way of working out.

In Cael we trust.

It's like there's a plan or something.

 

[Callthestall]

I got a real good idea who Cowbell is talking about, but won't name him because he's still a HS kid. Cowbell knows the kids, and if he says we don't want a kid we think we want, he's right.

But absolutely agree with his larger point. We fans can declare guys as musts all we want based upon what we see on the mat. Most of the time we know little (if anything) about the kid beyond matches. We have no idea if he's a good kid, a good student, a good teammate, if he has good practice habits, if he truly loves the sport or if he merely happens to be good at it and likes when he's winning.

And, when you've amassed the talent Cael has, there are precious few musts. Some guys we want very badly, but we move on if it doesn't work out. Miss Bo Jordan, get Bo Nickal and Mark Hall. Miss Marsteller, get Cenzo. Miss Schram and Lizak and Macri, get Suriano. Miss Spencer Lee, get RBY. Miss Cortez, wait a year and get him anyway. Miss Racciato, get Zain. Things have a way of working out.

In Cael we trust.

I guess I look at Penn State wrestling a little different than some of you. What I take the most pride in is seeing a lineup made up with a near majority of Pennsylvania kids. This year the number is 5 PA kids. I would hope Cael can land 1 or 2 top 5 PA kids a year and fill the roster with 1 or 2 top 10 national recruits a year. I am certain with that balance it would be very favorable to continue the success and still take pride that the roster has a strong influence of local talent. As far as your comment about Gulibon and Cruz , I just never have been overwhelmed by Jimmy's talent. He's not the first 4 timer that I questioned on how he would perform in college. I never thought Crawford would have a stand out career. I was very pleased PSU got Nolf instead of Marstellar, who I thought was a little one dimensional with the strength and throw arsenal. I just hope in the future the Pennsylvania kid makes up about 1/2 of Penn State starting lineup.

 

[dropster45]

DOWN GOES BECA.

BEAUTIFUL.

Beca simply needs to get its shit together and recruit harder

 

[21Guns]

Beca simply needs to get its shit together and recruit harder

THIS is what happens when a perfectly good, bought-and-paid-for "program", full of ringers, let's it's recruiting slip! See?

 

[El-Jefe]

AA Final Reynolds vs. Northern Lehigh is on PCN now. Match was this afternoon, but was concurrent with the AAA final.

Match started at 182. NL SR Luke Funck looked pretty good. Fairly tactical match thru the first 2 periods. 3rd started in neutral, Funck took a good shot and then very aggressively went crossface cradle for the pin. I think Funck is uncommitted; would be a good depth candidate for PSU.

 

[dropster45]

THIS is what happens when a perfectly good, bought-and-paid-for "program", full of ringers, let's it's recruiting slip! See?

And usually by now, someone who just happens to be brand new to the forum, weighs in with their world view on how all-star team "coaches" are actually good for the sport with the same old worn out arguments:
- Everyone is doing it.
- Just let the kids wrestle (please stop asking questions).
- We don't recruit, just call people and tell them how great our program is/where Johnny can fit into the lineup.
- Build your own program and try to beat us (as if they did it that way).
- You just need to work harder (and stop complaining about our recruiting).
- You guys just don't know wrestling/This is how it's done these days if you want to be a champion.
- We're in it to help all of the kids in the program (who are state champ material).
- You're kid that's been in the program since 1st grade is really important to us (unless we can find someone better - and believe me we're trying, then he's dogshit).
- I coach to help the kids (nothing to do with me trying to become a somebody in the wrestling world by padding my own personal record).
- I spend time during practice teaching the kids about ethics, doing things with "class", staying above the fray...from all those jealous people who want to be like us.
- They only criticize us because we're champions. This is how it is when you are a champion.

Etc,etc,etc...

 

[smalls103]

i can see where "Callthestall" is coming from though.

if your favorite team is penn state, you'd like to see a few boys from your neck of the woods in the white-striped singlet.

in my opinion (and i think every one else's) Cael's doing things just fine. you guys pretty much ran the gauntlet on possible D11 talent that might have (but didn't) go to PSU. i think you covered it well. the only two - and there were lineup issues at the time - that i thought might work at PSU were Darian and Minotti. of course Nico was there and the Nit middleweights were loaded. Minotti has struggled w/ injuries, but when he goes out and wins Midlands and reaches ncaa semi's as a frosh you could have thought that right there was a D11 kid PSU could have used.

other than that moment, which is a reach, and hindsight, idk if you can make a case that PSU missed on any D11 boys.

there was a late 'kick the tires' moment on Mikey Racciato. Another great kid from a great family that would have fit in well imo. but PSU couldn't/wouldn't give a good $ offer. I think Mikey was sort of a victim of his own athleticism. He was such a crazy athlete with amazing 'feel'. it came rather easy to him. then he hits the D1 grind and weight cutting and it's a different environment.

you could say Mikey Labs. the kid's game translates to college well. and people in D11 knew this was coming from him. i've known him since he was about 8 or so. great kid from a great family. but there are a couple guys named Hall and Nickel in his weight range.

On Sasso - he needs the right environment. I absolutely love Sammy and hope (and believe) he'll be fine.

It's also interesting that "Callthestall" lives in the Lehigh Valley and wishes PSU have more LV kids. Quite honestly, they're doing wonders for Lehigh. Between the D11 + Pennridge kids they are making up the majority of the lineup. I say 'interesting' because there was a time during the Strobel years that many in the Lehigh Valley were frustrated/intrigued that Strobel didn't bring in any/many of the D11 boys.

 

[smalls103]

Absolutely correct Call, good bringing that up, if Willie drops by he'll really give a complete Lehigh Valley/Psu picture Although Jefe kinda nailed it. Smalls is real tight with Snyder, what a great day for Nazareth today.

yes, very tight with Snyder. talk to him several times a week. he's still very upset that i'm the chief recruiter for Penn State but he's learning to accept it.

his father Barry was a long time assistant coach (and while i was there). like a father to me, really.

he was QB on Easton football state championship team and Captain of PSU wrestling team. went on to get his master's at Syracuse and then was the Head Coach of D1 Lafayette Wrestling before they cut it (i think in the 80's).

 

[Callthestall]

And usually by now, someone who just happens to be brand new to the forum, weighs in with their world view on how all-star team "coaches" are actually good for the sport with the same old worn out arguments:
- Everyone is doing it.
- Just let the kids wrestle (please stop asking questions).
- We don't recruit, just call people and tell them how great our program is/where Johnny can fit into the lineup.
- Build your own program and try to beat us (as if they did it that way).
- You just need to work harder (and stop complaining about our recruiting).
- You guys just don't know wrestling/This is how it's done these days if you want to be a champion.
- We're in it to help all of the kids in the program (who are state champ material).
- You're kid that's been in the program since 1st grade is really important to us (unless we can find someone better - and believe me we're trying, then he's dogshit).
- I coach to help the kids (nothing to do with me trying to become a somebody in the wrestling world by padding my own personal record).
- I spend time during practice teaching the kids about ethics, doing things with "class", staying above the fray...from all those jealous people who want to be like us.
- They only criticize us because we're champions. This is how it is when you are a champion.

Etc,etc,etc...

As I mentioned before ,I'm a district 11 guy,but will always root for the public school within our district against Beca including yesterday. Of all the points made above,the one argument that is not debatable is if parents are sending their son to Beca to keep him out of hanging with the wrong crowd , I don't blame them. Without naming the districts their are probably 5 public schools with a lot of issues in a 30 minute drive from Beca.If I lived in one of those districts, and had a son who wrestled but was concerned about his ill choices he would go to a private school. I feel that not being pro active on that choice could impact your child the rest of his life. I do not know specifically where Beca draws their roster from but was told it was all Lehigh Valley kids. Maybe someone could share some knowledge.

 

[dropster45]

As I mentioned before ,I'm a district 11 guy,but will always root for the public school within our district against Beca including yesterday. Of all the points made above,the one argument that is not debatable is if parents are sending their son to Beca to keep him out of hanging with the wrong crowd , I don't blame them. Without naming the districts their are probably 5 public schools with a lot of issues in a 30 minute drive from Beca.If I lived in one of those districts, and had a son who wrestled but was concerned about his ill choices he would go to a private school. I feel that not being pro active on that choice could impact your child the rest of his life. I do not know specifically where Beca draws their roster from but was told it was all Lehigh Valley kids. Maybe someone could share some knowledge.

Many of the kids are from the Lehigh Valley area, but there are some from neighboring states. Your point is well taken though, but when you have a whole team of them, it's not because of that.

 

[Callthestall]

And usually by now, someone who just happens to be brand new to the forum, weighs in with their world view on how all-star team "coaches" are actually good for the sport with the same old worn out arguments:
- Everyone is doing it.
- Just let the kids wrestle (please stop asking questions).
- We don't recruit, just call people and tell them how great our program is/where Johnny can fit into the lineup.
- Build your own program and try to beat us (as if they did it that way).
- You just need to work harder (and stop complaining about our recruiting).
- You guys just don't know wrestling/This is how it's done these days if you want to be a champion.
- We're in it to help all of the kids in the program (who are state champ material).
- You're kid that's been in the program since 1st grade is really important to us (unless we can find someone better - and believe me we're trying, then he's dogshit).
- I coach to help the kids (nothing to do with me trying to become a somebody in the wrestling world by padding my own personal record).
- I spend time during practice teaching the kids about ethics, doing things with "class", staying above the fray...from all those jealous people who want to be like us.
- They only criticize us because we're champions. This is how it is when you are a champion.

Etc,etc,etc...

As I mentioned before ,I'm a district 11 guy,but will always root for the public school within our district against Beca including yesterday. The one argument that is not debatable is if parents are sending their son to Beca to keep him out of hanging with the wrong crowd , I don't blame them. Without naming the districts their are probably 5 public schools with a lot of issues in 30 minute drive from Beca.If I lived in one of those districts, and had a son who wrestled but was concerned about his ill choices he would go to a private school. I feel that not being pro active on that choice could impact your child the rest of his life. I do not know specifically where Beca draws their roster from but was told it was all Lehigh Valley kids. Maybe someone could share some knowledge.

i can see where "Callthestall" is coming from though.

if your favorite team is penn state, you'd like to see a few boys from your neck of the woods in the white-striped singlet.

in my opinion (and i think every one else's) Cael's doing things just fine. you guys pretty much ran the gauntlet on possible D11 talent that might have (but didn't) go to PSU. i think you covered it well. the only two - and there were lineup issues at the time - that i thought might work at PSU were Darian and Minotti. of course Nico was there and the Nit middleweights were loaded. Minotti has struggled w/ injuries, but when he goes out and wins Midlands and reaches ncaa semi's as a frosh you could have thought that right there was a D11 kid PSU could have used.

other than that moment, which is a reach, and hindsight, idk if you can make a case that PSU missed on any D11 boys.

there was a late 'kick the tires' moment on Mikey Racciato. Another great kid from a great family that would have fit in well imo. but PSU couldn't/wouldn't give a good $ offer. I think Mikey was sort of a victim of his own athleticism. He was such a crazy athlete with amazing 'feel'. it came rather easy to him. then he hits the D1 grind and weight cutting and it's a different environment.

you could say Mikey Labs. the kid's game translates to college well. and people in D11 knew this was coming from him. i've known him since he was about 8 or so. great kid from a great family. but there are a couple guys named Hall and Nickel in his weight range.

On Sasso - he needs the right environment. I absolutely love Sammy and hope (and believe) he'll be fine.

It's also interesting that "Callthestall" lives in the Lehigh Valley and wishes PSU have more LV kids. Quite honestly, they're doing wonders for Lehigh. Between the D11 + Pennridge kids they are making up the majority of the lineup. I say 'interesting' because there was a time during the Strobel years that many in the Lehigh Valley were frustrated/intrigued that Strobel didn't bring in any/many of the D11 boys.

yes, very tight with Snyder. talk to him several times a week. he's still very upset that i'm the chief recruiter for Penn State but he's learning to accept it.

his father Barry was a long time assistant coach (and while i was there). like a father to me, really.

he was QB on Easton football state championship team and Captain of PSU wrestling team. went on to get his master's at Syracuse and then was the Head Coach of D1 Lafayette Wrestling before they cut it (i think in the 80's).

yes, very tight with Snyder. talk to him several times a week. he's still very upset that i'm the chief recruiter for Penn State but he's learning to accept it.

his father Barry was a long time assistant coach (and while i was there). like a father to me, really.

he was QB on Easton football state championship team and Captain of PSU wrestling team. went on to get his master's at Syracuse and then was the Head Coach of D1 Lafayette Wrestling before they cut it (i think in the 80's).

I'm just trying to figure this forum out. I assume smalls is Willie ,who might be Saylor. If so do you know Seitz and Bird and Deitzi tavern. Just to note, I don't do Facebook nor Twitter, and this whole process is new to me. I had a flip phone until last year.Everything I have posted is from my phone, I can't figure out how to do some features such as downloading web link. Would it be easier to do on computer.

 

[1Hammers1]

The only thing I have to add. I am glad Beca moved up to AAA. It was really getting old watching them in AA.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

I got a real good idea who Cowbell is talking about, but won't name him because he's still a HS kid. Cowbell knows the kids, and if he says we don't want a kid we think we want, he's right.

But absolutely agree with his larger point. We fans can declare guys as musts all we want based upon what we see on the mat. Most of the time we know little (if anything) about the kid beyond matches. We have no idea if he's a good kid, a good student, a good teammate, if he has good practice habits, if he truly loves the sport or if he merely happens to be good at it and likes when he's winning.

And, when you've amassed the talent Cael has, there are precious few musts. Some guys we want very badly, but we move on if it doesn't work out. Miss Bo Jordan, get Bo Nickal and Mark Hall. Miss Marsteller, get Cenzo. Miss Schram and Lizak and Macri, get Suriano. Miss Spencer Lee, get RBY. Miss Cortez, wait a year and get him anyway. Miss Racciato, get Zain. Things have a way of working out.

In Cael we trust.

Personally, I really couldn't give a hoot regarding which PA high school wrestlers various posters think are "must gets" -- the only party's opinion I care about in regards to which PA prospects are "priority scholarship targets" is Cael Sanderson & Co.'s opinion on the matter (ditto non-PA wrestlers for that matter).

 

[dropster45]

Personally, I really couldn't give a hoot regarding which PA high school wrestlers various posters think are "must gets" -- the only party's opinion I care about in regards to which PA prospects are "priority scholarship targets" is Cael Sanderson & Co.'s opinion on the matter (ditto non-PA wrestlers for that matter).

I'm guessing most people would agree with this for collegiate level wrestling & recruiting. I do.

 

[smalls103]

yes. i'm buds with the Pen Argyl crew. went to a dual (Pen Argyl-Wilson) when I was home for Christmas and talked with Mr. Mutton and Mr. Racciato. didn't (unfortunately) make it to Deitz.

 

[dicemen99]

State Duals recap:

http://news.theopenmat.com/high-school-wrestling/pa-round-state-duals-recap/61823

 

[El-Jefe]

Really impressed with Reynolds. This is not the Mason Beckman, Seth Hogue, boundary hugging wrestle from a knee in neutral Reynolds team we're used to. They were extremely aggressive in nearly every weight.

That said, Pitt can have their heavy. First time I've seen a TF winner storm off the mat in a huff before getting his hand raised. (Though funny to watch the ref try to hold him back by the wrist.)

 

[millerjs32]

yes, very tight with Snyder. talk to him several times a week. he's still very upset that i'm the chief recruiter for Penn State but he's learning to accept it.

his father Barry was a long time assistant coach (and while i was there). like a father to me, really.

he was QB on Easton football state championship team and Captain of PSU wrestling team. went on to get his master's at Syracuse and then was the Head Coach of D1 Lafayette Wrestling before they cut it (i think in the 80's).

Willie,
Easton never won a state championship in football, but I hope we DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[PerryLion1997]

Really impressed with Reynolds. This is not the Mason Beckman, Seth Hogue, boundary hugging wrestle from a knee in neutral Reynolds team we're used to. They were extremely aggressive in nearly every weight.

That said, Pitt can have their heavy. First time I've seen a TF winner storm off the mat in a huff before getting his hand raised. (Though funny to watch the ref try to hold him back by the wrist.)

I'm sure you have seen Spencer Lee wrestle? He literally does this kind of stuff regularly.

 

[El-Jefe]

I'm sure you have seen Spencer Lee wrestle? He literally does this kind of stuff regularly.

Yeah, no kidding. Does his entire team push pace like that? Because that was the point.

Or did you mean storm off in a huff after a TF win? Because I've seen plenty of his wins, yet to see someone so pissed after winning big that he didn't want his hand raised.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Willie,
Easton never won a state championship in football, but I hope we DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes and no. kind of depends on how you qualify things. The PIAA started staging state championships in football in 1988. Since that time, Easton has not won a championship in PIAA football.

Before 1988, there was no official championship. That didn't stop different groups, organizations, polls, etc. from naming different teams as state champions.

Easton was undefeated in 1917, 1919, 1923, 1924, 1925, 1939, 1958, 1968, 1978 (hope I keyed that in correctly).

I believe they were designated as State Champs by at least 1 group in 1917, 1924, and 1968. I believe that's also the case with the 1939 and the 1958 team, though I'm not certain of that.

 

[El-Jefe]

yes and no. kind of depends on how you qualify things. The PIAA started staging state championships in football in 1988. Since that time, Easton has not won a championship in PIAA football.

Before 1988, there was no official championship. That didn't stop different groups, organizations, polls, etc. from naming different teams as state champions.

Easton was undefeated in 1917, 1919, 1923, 1925, 1939, 1958, 1968, 1978,

I believe they were designated as State Champs by at least 1 group in 1917, 1924, and 1968. I believe that's also the case with the 1939 and the 1958 team, though I'm not certain of that.

Sounds like Pitt football, except with about 10x more fans in the stands.

 

[millerjs32]

yes and no. kind of depends on how you qualify things. The PIAA started staging state championships in football in 1988. Since that time, Easton has not won a championship in PIAA football.

Before 1988, there was no official championship. That didn't stop different groups, organizations, polls, etc. from naming different teams as state champions.

Easton was undefeated in 1917, 1919, 1923, 1925, 1939, 1958, 1968, 1978,

I believe they were designated as State Champs by at least 1 group in 1917, 1924, and 1968. I believe that's also the case with the 1939 and the 1958 team, though I'm not certain of that.

Tom,
I was specifically referring to after 88. WIllie also mentioned that Snider was the QB on state championship team, so more a reference to that and the state championship but to my recollection, my Rovers have never been crowned!

 

[millerjs32]

Tom,
I was specifically referring to after 88. WIllie also mentioned that Snider was the QB on state championship team, so more a reference to that and the state championship but to my recollection, my Rovers have never been crowned!

yes and no. kind of depends on how you qualify things. The PIAA started staging state championships in football in 1988. Since that time, Easton has not won a championship in PIAA football.

Before 1988, there was no official championship. That didn't stop different groups, organizations, polls, etc. from naming different teams as state champions.

Easton was undefeated in 1917, 1919, 1923, 1924, 1925, 1939, 1958, 1968, 1978 (hope I keyed that in correctly).

I believe they were designated as State Champs by at least 1 group in 1917, 1924, and 1968. I believe that's also the case with the 1939 and the 1958 team, though I'm not certain of that.

I know we got off topic a little but thought you might like seeing this website Tom. You seem to love this kinda stuff, and not sure where you pulled up the Easton football stats, but all that info is here, along with every score, of every game. Beat P'BURG!
http://www.eastonfootball.org/Easton_Football/HOME.html

 

[PerryLion1997]

Yeah, no kidding. Does his entire team push pace like that? Because that was the point.

Or did you mean storm off in a huff after a TF win? Because I've seen plenty of his wins, yet to see someone so pissed after winning big that he didn't want his hand raised.

Storm off in a huff. I've seen Lee run off the mat in a huff after shutting a kid out.

 

[El-Jefe]

Storm off in a huff. I've seen Lee run off the mat in a huff after shutting a kid out.

Without waiting to get his hand raised? That was the point ...

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Storm off in a huff. I've seen Lee run off the mat in a huff after shutting a kid out.

Don't forget the headgear throwing. Could make quite a scene if Suriano beats him in years to come

 

[PerryLion1997]

Don't forget the headgear throwing. Could make quite a scene if Suriano beats him in years to come

I like this Chickenman Testa guy haha.

 

[PerryLion1997]

Without waiting to get his hand raised? That was the point ...

Your point really was not clearly expressed. I was just trying to compare two wrestlers that do similar things when they blow out another kid (obviously on different talent levels). But still shenanigans all the same.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

I like this Chickenman Testa guy haha.

But honestly, I quit doing the equivalent in other sports when I was about 12 because it's dickish and very immature. You can be an intense competitor without treating your opponent like garbage.

My brother of all people gave me a straight red card in a soccer game for similar behavior. I complained at the time but had it coming.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

My brother of all people gave me a straight red card in a soccer game for similar behavior. I complained at the time but had it coming.

a straight red? hmm, either your bro was a little quick on the trigger, or your actions must have left him with no choice. then again, every ref has their own evaluation scale, and every game requires a different level of management.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

a straight red? hmm, either your bro was a little quick on the trigger, or your actions must have left him with no choice. then again, every ref has their own evaluation scale, and every game requires a different level of management.

His field, his rules. What was I going to do as a 12 year old - appeal through my agent to the NPAA (Nether Providence Athletic Association)?

I had a brace too at the time of my expulsion - going for a hat trick against our hated, effete rivals, Merion.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

I had a brace too at the time of my expulsion - going for a hat trick against our hated, effete rivals, Merion.

lol. Nether and LMSC still are not big fans of one another. The respective players seem to learn at a young age that the two programs are major rivals.

interestingly, a lot of the top clubs now have a club name that their teams use in early travel years, and a different name that they use in older travel years. The younger teams are still NPAA. The older teams, from I believe U-13 up, are 1776 United FC.

I believe LMSC is one of the only "elite" clubs that has not gone this route. (Well, West-Mont doesn't have two names, and I believe Yardley Makesfield also uses their name for all age brackets.) Some examples of other clubs you likely competed against:

TE: older teams play under FC Europa
Hockessin: older teams play under Delaware Rush
West Chester: older teams play under Penn Fusion
Brandywine Youth Club or Garnet Valley SC: they merged and now play under FC Brandywine

Another interesting one is FC Delco. That used to be one of the top programs in the country. It was more an all-star team from East. PA, South Jersey, and Delaware. I'm not sure how much you competed against them, as their older teams were usually only in elite tourneys and at Nationals. At this point they have reserved the right to use the FC Delco name, but significantly expanded the program so that they are at all age groups, and now play under the FC Continental name. They're pretty good, but not FC Delco level.

As for your brother the ref, it's pretty rare for a U-12 kid to get a red card. Not sure which of you that reflects worse on.

 

[El-Jefe]

Living in Delco (specifically in Nether Providence), I'm really afraid to hear what FC stands for here, and glad my name doesn't start with C.

Otherwise, flagged for metric football.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Living in Delco (specifically in Nether Providence), I'm really afraid to hear what FC stands for here, and glad my name doesn't start with C.

FC for soccer teams = Football Club

In general, soccer clubs use Football Club, Soccer Club, or Athletic Association in their name. The first two are usually specific to soccer organizations. The later is generally used by organizations that have programs in multiple sports, though there are exceptions to my broad statements. In general, the aforementioned usually get abbreviated to FC, SC, and AA, respectively. A lot of soccer organizations also have United in their title.

To avoid having to say these long names, the teams are usually referred to by either the names that don't include FC/SC/AA or United, or by their initials. So for teams around you, you'll have the following:

- Nether Providence Athletic Association is referred to as Nether or NPAA, though it now also goes by Nether United FC, which is referred to as Nether United, or Nether. (I've never seen NUFC, just NPAA)
- Rose Tree Soccer Club is referred to as Rose Tree of RTSC
- Ridley United Soccer Club is referred to as Ridley, Ridley United, or RUSC
- West Chester United Soccer Club is referred to as West Chester or WCUSC
- Haverford Soccer Club is referred to as Haverford or HSC
- Springfield Athletic Association is referred to as Springfield, Springfield AA, or SAA
- Swarthmore Recreation Association is referred to as Swarthmore or SRA

 

[El-Jefe]

Oh, I know what FC stands for everywhere else. We're talking Delco here.

 

[Callthestall]

Gulibon path will be much harder than Cruz's. First coming out of Big Ten then Cruz has much better chance beating a quality tall 141 pounder. You must think Gulibon has improved more than I do. I'll be glad to say I was wrong.

Still think Gulibon is going farther than Cruz. Don't think so Amigo. By the way are you related to Spyker?

 

[Callthestall]

Jimmy is going further than Cruz. Sorry amigo.

That's what my Amigo comment is about.