PSU guys in the Portal
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and for my money... I'd take Ryder to beat Rocco. Welsh doesn't do a whole lot.
Bridges been burnt it sounds like.
Ryder trained at M2 for a year and has been cornered by DT before.
DT getting paid to win. I want Ryder to stay, but neither he nor DT owe PSU anymore than Rocco owes OSU.
PSU did not recruit Rocco, he wanted to come home and wrestle. We're not going to turn him away.
But DT has his boosters out in full force right now whispering "not so nice things." All's fair, I guess, but if you're gonna play that way and mess with the bull, expect to get the horns moving forward.
Id expect Ryder to be moving on rather than battling for the spot.
I think the staff expected more respectful competition given the relationship, but that's out the window now.
All good, I don't expect PSU is going to suffer.
Neither do a whole lot. Ryder went to SV with AJ Heeg, who proceeded to go 2-11 the rest of the year. Ryder more likely to pancake someone with a whip-over, but Welsh is the more proven guy.
Maybe this transfer out was in the works before Welch transferred.
This comes down to how much of a perceived advantage there is for a kid's long term goals by being in the PSU room. If they know that they have to beat out a guy the caliber of Rocco to get a spot, but that being in the PSU room greatly increases their chances of winning nationals (if they win the spot) or world competitions either way, they'll stay and fight much harder than if they perceive going to the next place won't materially hurt their long term goals but will allow them to compete right away without competition for the starting spot. This may boil down to how well DT markets OSU as PSU West with all of the same structural advantages that PSU has. I don't see someone like Ryder going somewhere like Iowa or tOSU where they are grinding kids down and ending up injured and underperforming.
What's "more respectful competition"?!? DT is being paid handsomely to win and get the program to PSU's level. That's what he is doing. I don't think it's disrespectful to try to lure away kids who have been essentially recruited over. If I were in Ryder's spot, I'd have DT on speed dial as this is playing out.
Wasnt DT ready to jump on a plane to meet with Walsh?
Ryder wasn't recruited over no matter what you claim. It just didn't happen.
The rest of your comment is fine, I'm just saying if you want to treat PSU as the enemy, fine, but I would expect it to go both ways at this point. But all's fair. You got to do what you got to do to try to win
But I'm not rooting for DT or OK State anymore, not that it matters. None of this - I hope he does good there p#$$ crap.
Just reported by Basch on FB.
Penn State Wrestling’s Zack Ryder Enters Transfer Portal
In a wild turn of events, Penn State Wrestling's Zack Ryder has entered the Transfer Portal.
pennstate.rivals.com
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I mean you could absolutely turn him away. I think it’s fair to question the decision, especially when you consider Carter’s tweet and Zack’s reputation on the team. In a vacuum, the loss of Ryder means very little. You get Walsh coming in and Henckel offers every bit of depth that Ryder could have provided. You just worry about the locker-room effect. Obviously this staff has done very well in managing that aspect and deserves the trust of the fanbase, but can’t say I would have made the same decision.
Damn, well we were all worried about it. Pretty bummed. Now you gotta hope there's no rift that forms.
Who am I to question this, but damn I’d take Ryder over Rocco any day.
He could end up at Ohio st to complete the trade
Can DT use both Ryder and Welsh? I guess they have Thompson?
I get the feeling there’s at least one more guy at risk/having OSU offering.
I get the feeling there’s at least one more guy at risk/having OSU offering.
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Different OSU, I think.
Let’s be honest. The staff took an unnecessary risk. Welsh is better, but by how much?
Interesting concept. They know each other well. I suppose Ryder wants a 100% chance of starting after sitting this past season.
3 years of Welsh < 4 of Ryder
I hate this.
**** the portal
I hate this.
**** the portal
Jeez I'll take the coaching staff that has won 12-14 national championship to know what they are doing when come too talent evaluation. Cael keeps or gets the best talent always.
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Only other programs recruit over guys Penn St would never. Whenever a guy comes in its because they want to be there and no one recruited him. Some folks are brainwashed 🤷
Maybe he was looking to leave any way and that’s why they brought in welsh
Or DT proposed a bag he couldn’t refuse
Or DT proposed a bag he couldn’t refuse
Apparently Zach did not agree.
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Except it's not a 100% guarantee. OKST has a returning national qualifier at 184. Ryder is probably better but it's a risk.
We’ll see I guess
My money is on Ryder to finish higher.
Be a helluva final.
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