If you're realistic, one of those scenarios is much more likely than the other.
PSU @ Nebraska: Dual meet thread.
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If you're realistic, one of those scenarios is much more likely than the other.
No, it's not "the sky is falling" to say that we need Mark Hall: I have said it from the start, and so has Spyker, Lemon Pie, and many others. Not "as" many, to make a majority, but plenty of people have said this from the start. Or at least, are saying it now. And no, that's not "the sky is falling". If Cael doesn't take the shirt, we go into Nationals and maybe we pull off a championship by 5 points, or maybe we finish 4th in a close race. All of that is a good season, and all of that is acceptable.
I'll trust the process a hell of a lot better with Mark Hall out there for the Big Ten tournament in a PSU singlet on the mat.
That's impossible, because Bo and Dean will be on opposite sides, and PD3 is pinning Dean in the Round of 16.
Before Saturday? ;D
Just because you aren't nervous doesn't mean everyone isn't nervous....
does Nolf look nervous to you?
(EDIT: for clarification since the sarcasm was missed, this is Nolf prematch relaxing to his opponents rap intro) NOT Nervous.
sorry about quality. shot my touchscreen from my phone, lol
Here is the img of Joseph's No Call
Terrible positioning ..... LOL
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Honestly? Yes, a first round loss is much more likely for a guy with a 7-5 record, with losses to the likes of Kyle Springer, Irvin Enriquez, and Colten McCrystal, than is an AA finish. Particularly since it's unlikely Gulibon will get a good seed, and thus possible that he will get an unfavorable first round match-up. I seriously thought this was pretty obvious.
Thing that concerns me most with Mouse is his susceptibility to length and "funk"....we saw it twice this w/e - the 2nd time being lethal.
Byers called "Split Scissors" which again is a move name i've heard applied to something called a "banana split" where I grew up (essentially going across to leg rather than arm with opposite "boot in" - we called it a "grapevine" when you took opposing arm and wrapped behind your head and rolled back.....and a "banana split" when you locked on opposing leg with any of various ties and rolled back). Someone else in string called it as a "spladle" which is slightly different than a Banana Split / Split Scissors - the leg lock in a spladle is over the leg, not a "figure 4" on the leg after getting a boot in. You will typically see a spladle off a "Head-Outside Single Shot" where the defending wrestle reaches over top of shooting wrestler and latches onto the shooting wrestler's outside leg at knee (and extends leg that has been shot on deeper behind shooting wrestler's leg)....then defending wrestler who is draped over top rolls either forward or back although I would say back more common to guard against opponent popping his head out.
From the sound of Byers call, it sounded like a Banana Split (or "Split Scissors" as Byers called it) - a move that wrestlers with length advantage and a preference for funk like to use....and conversely wrestlers susceptible to length and funk fall victim to....
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Sadly I have to think there is a real possibility he does not make it out of Big 10s. Damn shame. Feel for JG but man, today was fugly for him
Against Nebraska it was listed as "Gulibon OR Moss", so possibly Cael was considering a move.
Thank you for that information, I was going by the Big Ten plus lineups at Minny, it's not a shock that they screwed that up TOO.
I have watched the kid since his freshman year in HS. He never looks nervous.Before Saturday? ;D
Just because you aren't nervous doesn't mean everyone isn't nervous....
does Nolf look nervous to you?
sorry about quality. shot my touchscreen from my phone, lol
Not sure I got the meaning of "Before Saturday". I was saying we had it won b4 (before) Saturday - last year.
Not saying that is necessarily the case this year, even though it easily could be. I am saying no matter who wrestles 174 for Penn State - Penn State wins the team title
As far as being nervous and always in "the sky is falling" mode somewhere along the line you would think people would realize the team always seems ready to go at season's end and it is more fun to just expect the kids to wrestle well and sit back and enjoy it.
Clark wrestled a helluva match in that tourney semi-final.
You need a larger sample size.
PSU starters with a bonus rate for the season 25% higher than Nebbie's starters (59% to 34%).
PSU starters with a bonus point average 284% higher than Nebraska's (1.4 bonus pts per bout, vs .5).
Keep in mind, Nebbie wrestled the Daktronics AND the Harold Nichols Opens. Granted we were in the Keystone Classic...however their numbers would be inflated more than ours...given those 2 tournaments.
No worries about Bonus Points...at all.
He had to have been laughing as he typed it, lol
Personalities are good for the sport, right?
On a different note, after how Nickal handled Dudley, the only match I'm really excited for this year is Dean/Nickal. I hope it's the last match in the line-up at the finals. It'll be right up there with last year's IMar/Nolf III
"The sky is falling" criticism is a classic Straw Man argument. Just because some posters express some concern that we are not a huge favorite to beat a deep (though with much less top side talent) Ok St team, does not indicate panic. I think we win it without Hall. That said, being uncertain about the outcome is far more realistic than those who think the title is a given, without Hall.
Well, that's enough proof for me.
Cael should step down immediately and let LemonPie, 21 Guns & Spyker take over the program.
It's amazing Cael luckboxed into his previous 5 NCs without listening to those three beforehand.
Cael should step down immediately and let LemonPie, 21 Guns & Spyker take over the program.
It's amazing Cael luckboxed into his previous 5 NCs without listening to those three beforehand.
In addition, scoring bonus in a tournament is easier imho than a dual as many have pointed out. An opponent has to wrestle to win rather than prevent a TF in a tournament as it is win or out of the Championship or Consolation bracket.
If it wasn't an annual exercise you would have a more significant point.
I guarantee next year with Nick Suriano, Zain Retherford, Jason Nolf, Mark Hall and Bo Nickal probable finalists, and possibly Vincenzo and Nick Nevills. We will go through a similar exercise.
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Before Saturday? ;D
Just because you aren't nervous doesn't mean everyone isn't nervous....
does Nolf look nervous to you?
sorry about quality. shot my touchscreen from my phone, lol
I am pretty sure Nolf was just jammin' to his opponents intro music. I am not kidding.
Bo is too athletic for the guys at 184. Dudley had no answers for him.
That's what I thought too. Then I thought his opponent better keep a close eye on his girlfriend after the match.
That's what I thought too. Then I thought his opponent better keep a close eye on his girlfriend after the match.
Yes, A HUGE part of THE PROCESS is winning National Championships so that we can attract mo betta recruits to win more National Championships, dig?
Mike Hagerty was the head official, he's one of the best in the sport. Mike Allen was also sitting at the end of the scorers table. Cropduster's "head taps" were illegal eye pokes, but no call from the ref because the hand is quicker than the eye.
Really impressed with Nickal's approach to Dudley today. A year ago Nickal would've tried to throw when he had the double overs but perhaps this year realizes there's no need to risk getting rolled through when you can just run a takedown clinic and risk nothing. Interesting that Dudley was in good position to attempt a throw himself a few times in the second but declined.
Also really impressed with Suriano making it through Lizak and Lambert on the road. But not surprised. He's the same guy every time out. Good that both he and the the coaches got a look at some areas where he can improve. I still don't pick him over Gilman, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him win either.
And Nevills had a great weekend too. He's got the instincts of a wrestler a few weight classes down and HWTs can't keep up; really great reactions in close against Jensen. Beating guys with quickness he didn't have last year. Medberry and Walz might be tough outs and I can't imagine Snyder losing to anyone but Nevills seems not far behind that upper tier if he's not already in it.
Also really impressed with Suriano making it through Lizak and Lambert on the road. But not surprised. He's the same guy every time out. Good that both he and the the coaches got a look at some areas where he can improve. I still don't pick him over Gilman, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him win either.
And Nevills had a great weekend too. He's got the instincts of a wrestler a few weight classes down and HWTs can't keep up; really great reactions in close against Jensen. Beating guys with quickness he didn't have last year. Medberry and Walz might be tough outs and I can't imagine Snyder losing to anyone but Nevills seems not far behind that upper tier if he's not already in it.
Most impressed today with 125, 165, 184 and Heavy.
Barring injury, we just need to stick by Jimmy and hope he gets hot.
As for Hall, for all we know, Cael promised a redshirt, during recruiting.
Barring injury, we just need to stick by Jimmy and hope he gets hot.
As for Hall, for all we know, Cael promised a redshirt, during recruiting.
