recent recruits - shows JF has a plan

[blion72]

JF adapted very well to the loss of a few players in June with some very strong recruits. he has a plan and adapts on the fly very well.

the one player i found very intriguing is Tyler Warren from VA. says he is an athlete and clearly could play several positions. on the Rivals site he is a dual threat QB. watching his film had a very nice arm = lefty. threw accurate on the run.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

I don't believe it.

 

[Lion8286]

Franklin has a plan?? All along I thought he was just winging it.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

Guessing he watched “The A Team” as a kid!

 

[Jovialgent]

Franklin has a plan?? All along I thought he was just winging it.

He was, but that was his plan.

 

[Jovialgent]

Guessing he watched “The A Team” as a kid!

Ah, "The A Team". I had a big crush on Melinda Culea.

And seeing George Peppard reminds me of a movie favorite of mine, The Blue Max. Great film.

Ah, but back to Franklin. Sorry blion72. I'm acting goofier than normal today. I do like what Franklin is doing and I agree he adapts well. We'll see how it all plays out, but it appears we have some special seasons ahead.

 

[BobPSU92]

"Russians don't take a dump, son, without a plan."

 

[PSULionsDub]

Well I think the 2020 recruiting class proves that Franklin and his coaching staff have been developing deep relationships with Plan A, B, and C type of recruits. We may have struck out on some of the top Plan A recruits, but the deep relationships they had already created with some recruits have helped them close the deal over the past month or so.

 

[ejb25]

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. Every time CJF has faced adversity he gets right back up and keeps on swinging.

 

[wolve1972]

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. Every time CJF has faced adversity he gets right back up and keeps on swinging.

Agree, CJF is a heck of a recruiter and role model for his kids. He should give Jim and UM a heck of a fight for this year's best class in the B1G. Some people always point to numbers/rankings when determining the top classes but it really comes down to filling your team needs and nobody does it better than Jim. CJF seems to be the same !

 

[Art]

Yes, his plan is if things don't work out with one recruit, he moves on to the next one. Don't believe there is anything particularly unique about that.

 

[royboy]

Yes, his plan is if things don't work out with one recruit, he moves on to the next one. Don't believe there is anything particularly unique about that.

Simple enough concept, but Franklin appears to be very good at adapting. He has broadened Penn State's geographical reach and seems very competent in talent identification, marketing, and salesmanship.

 

[BobPSU92]

Simple enough concept, but Franklin appears to be very good at adapting. He has broadened Penn State's geographical reach and seems very competent in talent identification, marketing, and salesmanship.

Exactly. Franklin says no one will outwork him. He seems to be one of those people who moves on quickly from disappointment, looking forward. That’s the obvious way to operate for someone in his position, but some people are not good at letting go of disappointment and allow it to get in the way of progress.

 

[mcgunns]

Yes, his plan is if things don't work out with one recruit, he moves on to the next one. Don't believe there is anything particularly unique about that.

sure seemed like a novel concept to the long-time regime

 

[AWS1022]

nobody does it better than Jim

Apparently a lot of people do it better than Jim.

 

[Nitt1300]

Yes, his plan is if things don't work out with one recruit, he moves on to the next one. Don't believe there is anything particularly unique about that.

He does it quickly and without drama

 

[Art]

Simple enough concept, but Franklin appears to be very good at adapting. He has broadened Penn State's geographical reach and seems very competent in talent identification, marketing, and salesmanship.

Look at ASWP's recruiting class. Certainly not as good, but they've cast a similar geographic net. Necessity is the mother of invention.

 

[Art]

sure seemed like a novel concept to the long-time regime

Who brought up the previous regime? Oh, you did.

 

[Art]

Exactly. Franklin says no one will outwork him. He seems to be one of those people who moves on quickly from disappointment, looking forward. That’s the obvious way to operate for someone in his position, but some people are not good at letting go of disappointment and allow it to get in the way of progress.

He does it quickly and without drama

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You folks have any examples of coaches who do otherwise, at least any good ones?

 

[djr4rebs]

The big shift in game plan seems to be that everyone is trying to have the class filled out by fall practice in anticipation of ESD.

Other than one school (Georgia, 14), everyone in the top 10 has 17+ commits.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

Apparently a lot of people do it better than Jim.

That's not what Quinn told me.

 

[BobPSU92]

You folks have any examples of coaches who do otherwise, at least any good ones?

I said, “He seems... Franklin is a good recruiter. There must be something to it, but I don’t spend enough time around him to know with certainty how he works or why he’s successful. None of us do.

Also, “...some people are not good at letting go of disappointment...” was stated in general terms. I’m sure we all know people like that, and it’s fair to assume that some head coaches, even at big-time programs, struggle with this. It’s human nature, but some people simply are better at moving on from disappointment than others. Franklin misses on quality recruits but has a knack for picking up others quickly. Some coaches have classes fall apart or at least slip significantly in rankings from decommitments because they are unable to recover.

Of course, we can simply cut this short and all agree that Franklin is f*cking awful. That works well for me.

 

[wolve1972]

The big shift in game plan seems to be that everyone is trying to have the class filled out by fall practice in anticipation of ESD.

Other than one school (Georgia, 14), everyone in the top 10 has 17+ commits.

My prediction for the final top 10 recruiting classes for 2019:

1. Clemson
1a. Michigan (Jim fills our needs)
3. Alabama
4. Georgia
5, LSU
6. Texas AM
7. Oklahoma
8. Penn State
9. ND
10 The sucknuts

 

[Nitt1300]

You folks have any examples of coaches who do otherwise, at least any good ones?

 

[SEPATOPTEN]

Ah, "The A Team". I had a big crush on Melinda Culea.
Great film.

And seeing George Peppard reminds me of a movie favorite of mine, The Blue Max. Great film.

Ah, but back to Franklin. Sorry blion72. I'm acting goofier than normal today. I do like what Franklin is doing and I agree he adapts well. We'll see how it all plays out, but it appears we have some special seasons ahead.

 

[SUPERTODD]

My prediction for the final top 10 recruiting classes for 2019:

1. Clemson
1a. Michigan (Jim fills our needs)
3. Alabama
4. Georgia
5, LSU
6. Texas AM
7. Oklahoma
8. Penn State
9. ND
10 The sucknuts

Are you on drugs? O$U beats the snot out of of you year after year on the field and in recruiting. The one year, 2017, you finished “ahead” of them in the recruit rankings you had to take 30 recruits to do it. You process more kids than any school in the Big Ten, are allowed to routinely ignore Big Ten scholarships limits and still routinely lose the recruiting race to O$U and us.

 

[Art]

I'll take that to mean you don't have any examples.

 

[Art]

I said, “He seems... Franklin is a good recruiter. There must be something to it, but I don’t spend enough time around him to know with certainty how he works or why he’s successful. None of us are.

Also, “...some people are not good at letting go of disappointment...” was stated in general terms. I’m sure we all know people like that, and it’s fair to assume that some head coaches, even at big-time programs, struggle with this. It’s human nature, but some people simply are better at moving on from disappointment than others. Franklin misses on quality recruits but has a knack for picking up others quickly. Some coaches have classes fall apart or at least slip significantly in rankings from decommitments because they are unable to recover.

Of course, we can simply cut this short and all agree that Franklin is f*cking awful. That works well for me.

Hold on there. I think you know me well enough that if I think he's "fvcking awful" I'll write that he's "fvcking awful." I'm just not ready to proclaim him as the second coming until he demonstrates that he is i.e wins championships. So far his results have been very good.

 

[Nitt1300]

I'll take that to mean you don't have any examples.

And I'll take that to mean you are still a doucebag

 

[Ian]

Ah, "The A Team". I had a big crush on Melinda Culea.

And seeing George Peppard reminds me of a movie favorite of mine, The Blue Max. Great film.

Ah, but back to Franklin. Sorry blion72. I'm acting goofier than normal today. I do like what Franklin is doing and I agree he adapts well. We'll see how it all plays out, but it appears we have some special seasons ahead.

Blue Max is a classic!

 

[Art]

And I'll take that to mean you are still a doucebag

Think what you like, but I don't give a fvck...and you still don't have any examples..

 

[royboy]

Look at ASWP's recruiting class. Certainly not as good, but they've cast a similar geographic net. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Similar geographic net?

No, doesn't look that way. Penn State, with 20 commitments, has a base area of PA, MD, and VA, and a very diverse mix overall with 10 states (counting DC) represented.

Pitt has 16 commits and over half are from FL or GA, mostly 2nd tier prospects from those talented areas.

 

[nittany119]

Apparently a lot of people do it better than Jim.

Unless you mean nose picking. He’s the best.

 

[Art]

Similar geographinec net?

No, doesn't look that way. Penn State, with 20 commitments, has a base area of PA, MD, and VA, and a very diverse mix overall with 10 states (counting DC) represented.

Pitt has 16 commits and over half are from FL or GA, mostly 2nd tier prospects from those talented areas.

My point is that Pennsylvania doesn't produce enough top-end talent to fill rosters at Pitt and PSU as it has in the past. Borne out be the recruiting numbers: PSU has three from PA HSs. Pitt has one.

 

[royboy]

My point is that Pennsylvania doesn't produce enough top-end talent to fill rosters at Pitt and PSU as it has in the past. Borne out be the recruiting numbers: PSU has three from PA HSs. Pitt has one.

That didn't appear to be your point, but we all recognize you have a hard time admitting a mistake.

 

[Art]

That didn't appear to be your point, but we all recognize you have a hard time admitting a mistake.

I'll agree that I didn't phrase particularly well. Now fvck off.

 

[Nitt1300]

Think what you like, but I don't give a fvck...and you still don't have any examples..

It means that I'm not playing your game and that you don't define the argument. I don't have to say something negative about someone else to justify saying something positive about Franklin. Only a narcissist would fail to understand that - maybe you should see somebody about that.

 

[YorkLion]

My point is that Pennsylvania doesn't produce enough top-end talent to fill rosters at Pitt and PSU as it has in the past. Borne out be the recruiting numbers: PSU has three from PA HSs. Pitt has one.

True, but we also seem to be losing some of our best players to our competition.

 

[Kiber]

I don't think anyone --- even the most anti-James Franklin haters --- would claim that he & this staff are "lazy" when it comes to recruiting.

I think this "plan" for which you speak is simply a good by-product of a very hard working staff when it comes to recruiting. They stay in touch with literally hundreds of kids, they host hundreds of kids, they text & tweet to hundreds of kids .... they are very hard -working recruiters.

All that being said. I do feel that eventually if we want to truly be "elite" then we must recruit the "elite" players. Getting a bunch of "very good" players is great. Getting a bunch of "very good" players like we did in 2018 & 2019 and again in the 2020 class.... most likely assures us of 9 & 10 win seasons. And that's very good in college football. You win 9 and 10 games every year, you are a very good program. You are most likely a top 10-15 team, you are in consideration for NYD-6 Bowls. and you are very relevant in the world of college football. .... But, you most likely are also a step below the likes fo Bama, Clemson, Georgia, Oklahoma and Ohio State on an annual basis.

 

[wolve1972]

Are you on drugs? O$U beats the snot out of of you year after year on the field and in recruiting. The one year, 2017, you finished “ahead” of them in the recruit rankings you had to take 30 recruits to do it. You process more kids than any school in the Big Ten, are allowed to routinely ignore Big Ten scholarships limits and still routinely lose the recruiting race to O$U and us.

In just a few recruiting rankings, yes, OSU has won but what many are not taking into account is STRATEGY. Jim and his staff has carefully selected the players he wants and now has the roster stacked 4 and 5 deep. It's all over for OSU and even the preseason polls agree ! Release the Wolverine in Michigan football !