Wait.. I thought it was Lyme.You saw this when Iowa fans were saying Spencer had mono....
He didn't have mono.
Wait.. I thought it was Lyme.You saw this when Iowa fans were saying Spencer had mono....
He didn't have mono.
Don't be a d***, bro.Just got banned from Iowa board for calling Spencer "soft". I probably deserved it.
Yep.Our fans don't need to reciprocate. We should be better.
Like Joe said, act like you've been there before.
If anyone can post that interview, I’d love to see it.Yep.
I saw Max Dean’s emotional interview after his 7th place match, and I cannot help but think that, sometimes, Cael’s young men could teach us all a little bit about gratitude and humility.
If anyone can post that interview, I’d love to see it.
Much respect to Dean for wrestling through what had to be a very disappointing post-season to him.
Unfortunately for Lee, his fanbase treated him like a deity which of course is going to cause folks to look for reasons to bring him down a notch.All I'm gonna say about Spencer Lee is this:
- we needed his pin over Tomasello
- sometimes he's said or done a few vaguely controversial things, but he's never been a real jerk
- if you want a Hawkeye recently who was a real jerk at one time, you could look at the kid who beat Lee at PIAAs and then went to Drexel and tried to injure people
- IMO college Dake was way more insufferable than Lee
- How often did Lee stall or screw somebody over?
I guess my point is, I think Spencer Lee is a decent dude, and I wish his last few years could have been managed differently. Forfeiting out is not a great look, but, like, whatever.
100% Class.
If you're right, and I suspect you are, that's why I'm saying "whatever" to Lee. If he's not actually hurt, then he's decided to go out on the worst possible note.Agree that Spencer is likely crushed (much like his mother’s eyeglasses), but c'mon man, the “dark, dark place” stuff is over the top silly.
No idea about how injured he may be, but Lee has never been in the consolation bracket at the NCAA tournament. I suspect he didn’t want to start today and really doesn’t care about trying to secure 3rd place. And the 6th place trophy may get thrown in the trash, like a previous Iowa 125 pounder allegedly once did.
Genuinely good news.Spencer in the building with his teammates. He did not leave the state as was first reported.
Long, awkwardly silent road trips home???If excuses are for wussies, what is for quitters?
I saw the post-match interview with Quint Kessenich and was impressed with that one. Thank you for posting this one. I did not see this. He’s an impressive young man.
Please.its not about him its about the iowa program and their jerk fans!
I am pretty sure none of the team members were on HR talking shyt.Please.
The way to prove another team are a bunch of jerks is to beat their butts, like the 1986 Lions did to Miami, not talk trash on their forums.
I sometimes think Joe Paterno was too good for some of us.
I feel like Brands cost him this match. Without the timeout the brick throw gave Ramos, Lee probably wins.This whole thing is a complete mismanagement. They brought him back to win the NCAA team title under clearly negative circumstances with the injuries. Brands publically came out this season and proclaimed he's the greatest ever before the job was done. What good comes from that? Brands hang on by a thread with him.
No, Ayala's mom. LOL.A friend? You mean Warners mom?
Edit: No, I don't know why there are random digits interspersed in this.This is one tournament where I am glad that I got banned from the Iowa boards. It is ironic that part of the reason that I got banned was for throwing shade back at them for their booing of our football players for "faking injuries" and the subsequent crap they spewed on our boards for a week. I guess stuff really does happen for a reason.
After all the abuse we've taken over the Sandusky scandal which had nothing to do with football or us as fans and alumni, f'em.I just spent a few minutes on the Iowa board and am ashamed of those PSU fans who danced on the grave. We need to have more class than to pile on to people who, as fans, are really hurting.
Sandusky comments bother me for the same reason they bother a certain PSU radio play-by-play man: because those comments are false (if generally ignorant).Sorry. Couldn’t hear you since you were so high up on your soapbox. I guess this is your first time on the internet, fans talk smack to each other constantly. Sandusky comments don’t bother me so busting on their GOAT shouldn’t bother them. If you truly are embarrassed or hurt over what some stranger says on a forum, then you should probably stay off them.
Dean lost early and was very disappointed but came back and wrestled for 7th place. That is class!Yes, we have all seen legends lose and come back to finish 3rd. He will regret this.
Forget comparisons to Jason ... Lee is now probably the 7th best Hawk ever.Losing last night helps those of us who argued with Iowa fans that Nolf was the better wrestler. 4 finals vs 3.
Banach was 1-1-2-1 losing to Schultz in one entertaining as hell match. IIRC Schultz tossed Ed twice. One huge freaking human being outmuscling another huge freaking human being.Forget comparisons to Jason ... Lee is now probably the 7th best Hawk ever.
6 others were 3x champs/4x AAs: Lincoln McIlravy, Ed Banach, Tom Brands, Barry Davis, Joe Williams, Jim Zalesky.
McIlravy was a 4x finalist, so definitely above Lee. The others ... I'm too lazy to look up their 4th podium finishes, but probably higher than 6th.
Also, all except Zalesky were Olympic or World medalists (Banach and Brands champs).
He’s ducking Glory yet again @PatMineo22Is it wrong of me to wish Spencer would have got decked tonight instead of last night?
McIlravy (love that last name - kinda makes me think of a raving lunatic) was also 1-1-2-1.Banach was 1-1-2-1 losing to Schultz in one entertaining as hell match. IIRC Schultz tossed Ed twice. One huge freaking human being outmuscling another huge freaking human being.
Easy to make that mistake - all angry little guys look the same to meHe showed up, walked out onto the mat, shook his opponent's hand and mff. He did it the right way and I respect that.
Edit: Unfortunately, this is wrong. That was Brands on the side of the mat, not Lee.
This is the reason psu wins. The locker room. Our guys lost and fought like hell for the team. The big difference this year in football was the locker room. The leadership it’s a bad look and speaks to me me me mentalityThe kid didn’t die, he lost a wrestling match.
This.Without anyone asking for it, here is my opinion. One should not be overjoyed at someone else's set back. Is it ok to cheer for your opponents opposition? Absolutely. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. However, I think some people are being a little hard on Spencer. Roughly 12 hours ago, his lifelong dream came to an abrupt end when he was 2 matches away. Do I think he should have wrestled today if able, yes. But I do not have any inside information on why he's not. He's one of the best college wrestlers ever to date. A 3x Piaa State Champ, a 3x NCAA Champ, age level international champ. It has been a hell of a career so far, and I hope he's healthy enough to make a run on the senior level. If not, regardless of what singlet he decided to wear in college, it was a joy watching such dominance.
Well if Lee keeps competing in freestyle, we have a pretty good guarantee that he’ll never pull a Yianni and get a court to overturn a ref’s decision.A friend said hopefully Larry is driving, his wife can’t see and son has no legs!
I know, I know, I am terrible for sharing….
In the past I went a few times to HR. I finally left, not because of what Iowa fans wrote, but because of what some obnoxious things PSU fans wrote. It made me ashamed for PSU, and I couldn't read any more of it. PSU fans that post ugly things elsewhere may get a few kicks out of doing it, but it reflects badly on PSU. Don't we have enough to make us happy with not only what our guys do, but the classy way most of them handle themselves. We should do the same!I just spent a few minutes on the Iowa board and am ashamed of those PSU fans who danced on the grave. We need to have more class than to pile on to people who, as fans, are really hurting.
FULL COURT PRESS !!!!Matt Ramos TF Jax Forrest
Matt Ramos FALL Spencer Lee
9th grader Forrest > Lee
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It's their house. We expect our non-PSU friends to not relieve themselves on our living room floor. Same for the Iowa boards, even if they want to live in a sty.In the past I went a few times to HR. I finally left, not because of what Iowa fans wrote, but because of what some obnoxious things PSU fans wrote. It made me ashamed for PSU, and I couldn't read any more of it. PSU fans that post ugly things elsewhere may get a few kicks out of doing it, but it reflects badly on PSU. Don't we have enough to make us happy with not only what our guys do, but the classy way most of them handle themselves. We should do the same!
I got tossed too for posting a link to purchase discount glasses. They are a miserable bunch and deserve what they getJust got banned from Iowa board for calling Spencer "soft". I probably deserved it.
And the other 2 NC’s that lost.Dean lost early and was very disappointed but came back and wrestled for 7th place. That is class!
Well, there are 200 rooms full of PSU fans in our hotel that didn't check out. The Lees have a six hour ride ahead of them. So, maybe they're planning on coming to finals, then drive until 4:00 AM?It’s normal for anybody to check out of a hotel on the last day of a tournament, right?