No, they didn’t.It's not way too high--90-95% of our roster expected to play on Sundays when they committed
No, they didn’t.It's not way too high--90-95% of our roster expected to play on Sundays when they committed
Fans seem fine how it is currently. See ratings for the playoff games and watch those ratings when it expands.They’re not bringing it in, the university name is bringing it in….that’s why fans keep following the team even after the players leave. Make it about academics for all schools, and the fans will still support the teams.
What do you think the penalty is?Normal students can’t always transfer without penalty (lost credits for example) and they can’t transfer without penalty if they’re on academic scholarship.
Yes they do. It's funny you think most 3 star recruits and above are don't think football is their futureNo, they didn’t.
They lose their scholarship.What do you think the penalty is?
It’s funny you think none of them have any sense of reality.Yes they do. It's funny you think most 3 star recruits and above are don't think football is their future
They aren't looking to keep it if they're leaving--they likely got a new oneThey lose their scholarship.
It's not--you're just in denial. I played hockey at the equivalent of college level and everyone thought they had a chance to play at the next level. Their reality is if they put in the work and they're at Penn State they'll make it.It’s funny you think none of them have any sense of reality.
Expectations are irrelevant. Every marriage begins with the expectation of happiness.No, they didn’t.
So you played on a team full of delusional players.It's not--you're just in denial. I played hockey at the equivalent of college level and everyone thought they had a chance to play at the next level. Their reality is if they put in the work and they're at Penn State they'll make it.
As most 18 year olds areSo you played on a team full of delusional players.
No...as you likely know. There's windows.How far does this go? Let's say OSU makes the playoffs this year. Can Abdul Carter enter the portal after the last regular season game and "transfer" to OSU and play in the playoffs?
We go to 1 PSU game a year, normally a home game but this year we are attending an away game. It always a fun family time of being together, being entertained, and watching our favorite team. We do continue to purchase PSU gear. Don't have any interest in contributing to NIL. Our money goes to the Lord's work, family, and some charities. Not opposed to the universities giving the players a good stipend each month (year roundl) in addition to their scholarship, housing, meals, nutrition counseling, tutoring, a clothing allowance, full medical care while on scholarship as ell as ongoing if they have career ending injury, financial grants (free $) for family emergencies like death in immediate family. When these whopper financial deals with NIL are added in, I don't support it, while realizing it is now reality. Sadly, it seems like the wild west with bidding for the services of HS and college portal players.Is there some outstanding disdain for all of this from a considerable chunk of the cfb collective audience that I'm missing? TV contracts are at record highs. When the marquee games can't give away tickets to fill a stadium, that's a problem.
Just curious, what about the fans? What are you thinking here.
I just don't think people understand what a can of worms this can be.....Sadly, it seems like the wild west with bidding for the services of HS and college portal players.
Yes we know, for now it is what it is. Donate to NIL.I just don't think people understand what a can of worms this can be.
Not a chance. Not until there's some sanity.Yes we know, for now it is what it is. Donate to NIL.
This could be our yearNot a chance. Not until there's some sanity.
Don't understand or don't care?I just don't think people understand what a can of worms this can be.
Hopefully we get a nice surprise. I feel like us and Miami are the least likelyBear Alexander announces commitment date, names finalists
Former UGA defensive tackle Bear Alexander has announced a commitment date alongside a list of finalists in his transfer portal recruitment.www.on3.com
Our hats on the table.
Not heard anything about visits. Guessing it's whoever offered the most without visits...
Not getting my hopes up. If it is about money we lose. And it looks like it is.Bear Alexander announces commitment date, names finalists
Former UGA defensive tackle Bear Alexander has announced a commitment date alongside a list of finalists in his transfer portal recruitment.www.on3.com
Our hats on the table.
Not heard anything about visits. Guessing it's whoever offered the most without visits...
Sadly. This is Oregon USC or Texas written all over it. Colorado to play with Deion wouldn't shock me either. Deion has kids interested.Not getting my hopes up. If it is about money we lose. And it looks like it is.
USCSadly. This is Oregon USC or Texas written all over it. Colorado to play with Deion wouldn't shock me either. Deion has kids interested.
Yeah, that's my guess too but stranger things have happened. Oregon and Texas can come up with cash so I wouldn't rule them out.
I read two articles today on Facebook from "WolverineWire" that Michigan, OSU, and UGA have all offered two unranked DTs for 2024 class. One from Louisana, 6'5" 310lbs and one from Charlotte, NC area who is 6'6" 320lbs. What I'm getting at is there are big kids out there who PSU might want to take a chance on.Wheres Bear going?
Great--so we'll have to play against him in the BIG. We need to up the NIL though I don't think it would have mattered here.
Great--so we'll have to play against him in the BIG. We need to up the NIL though I don't think it would have mattered here.
Right--I said I don't think it mattered here but USC got him because of NIL--or at least I'd be willing to wager on that.He was in the portal for one week. Made one visit. This kid knew where he was going before he put his name in the hat.
Right--I said I don't think it mattered here but USC got him because of NIL--or at least I'd be willing to wager on that.
FWIW I think college football would be just as popular and make just as much money if the NFL had a professional minor league and college football was played by amateur students. I certainly don't think players were being abused.They compared it to the NFL--that was their mistake
All programs provide a scholarship so it's about what else you provide. A scholarship means nothing in the grand scheme of things in terms of compensation when you see what Penn State makes a year off the football program and those players--again, reality.
The level of play would be less so, no, it likely wouldn't be as popular because how many players would be needed out of every recruiting class to fill a minor league? The players were certainly "used" if not "abused"FWIW I think college football would be just as popular and make just as much money if the NFL had a professional minor league and college football was played by amateur students. I certainly don't think players were being abused.
I assume PSU loses their arse on sports like softball, lacrosse, gymnastics, field hockey, swimming, golf, and tennis. Is it wrong to make a lot of money in one sport and use the proceeds to subsidize other sports?
Are high school players abused? How much is IMG academy abusing kids by CHARGING $75k per year for kids to attend and develop their skills?The level of play would be less so, no, it likely wouldn't be as popular because how many players would be needed out of every recruiting class to fill a minor league? The players were certainly "used" if not "abused"
How much to high schools make off their players?Are high school players abused? How much is IMG academy abusing kids by CHARGING $75k per year for kids to attend and develop their skills?
90% of high school players dream of the opportunity to play on national TV in a 100,000 stadium. Free tuition, room, board, clothing, and word class amenities in addition to "cost of attendance" spending money. Why do you think kids walk on. Are they getting abused?
As far as lost viewership due to the quality of play.... The Philadelphia Eagles are one of the best teams in the NFL. They are located in a big city where they can attract lots of fans. They averaged $69k fans per game. PSU's talent doesn't compare but they average 107k fans per game. Sure, we like to see talented players but there's a lot more to college sports than that. The fans root for their school.
That's not relevant to the discussion IMO. My point is that PSU gets a lot more fans in the middle of nowhere than the Eagles get in a high population area and it isn't because PSU has more talented athletes.How much to high schools make off their players?
It's absolutely part of the discussion.That's not relevant to the discussion IMO. My point is that PSU gets a lot more fans in the middle of nowhere than the Eagles get in a high population area and it isn't because PSU has more talented athletes.
BTW, do you know how much money PSU makes on football?
You're all over the place in this discussion. I didn't say anything about TV revenue or profitability. I'm simply saying that people watch college football because they cheer for their school. They don't do it because it's the highest level of talent. If that was the case all the viewership would go to the NFL and college viewership would be less than the USFL.It's absolutely part of the discussion.
The numbers of people going to 7 to 8 games a year isn't nearly as relevant as the TV contract and the viewers from those games. It's about $$$ not people sitting in a stadium. Why are you ignoring money in everything you discuss? It's all that matters with these topics.
Enough that NIL is negligible.