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The Second Mile was ONLY for BOYS

I'm not exaggerating. The problem with JS was that everyone IGNORED obvious warning signs; showering, one v one time with kids, etc, etc.

There is a huge distance between helping to coach kids or umpiring games and showering after a late night workout. That's all I'm saying and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the difference. My kid has been coached by many adults who didn't have a child on the team and I never once saw anything weird or otherwise made me question their altruism.

This stuff goes on in every community in this country and "with the benefit of hindsight" people see that there were "obvious warning signs." The unfortunate thing is that these signs are not so "obvious" until the abuser is finally exposed.

Sadly, pedophiles are drawn to sports and other activities involving kids. That's a fact. They go where the targets are. And they will prey on kids whose parents aren't as attentive as you are. Your kid isn't going to be a target because you're involved in his life. So keep an eye on the coach's relationship with the kid from a single parent family. Or the kid who has a terrible relationship with his own parents. Or the kid whose parents are never around for practices and/or events. If you think that the pedophile coach has a big red "P" tattooed on his forehead you're very mistaken. He's more likely to be the guy who's sucking up to you so that you'll stand by him and say, "I never once saw anything weird or otherwise made me question their altruism" when some kid accuses him of wrongdoing. That's how it works.
 
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Yes, boys from broken homes. Is the answer to ignore them, not give them 1 on 1 attention from male role models? Big Brother is founded on that principle and incidents have been extremely rare. Why would Big Brother or TSM need to help kids from solid homes?

There's a direct conflict between "wanting to protect kids" and "wanting to help kids, " isnt there?

You can give a kid one-on-one attention in a public place where there are other people around.
 
Yes, boys from broken homes. Is the answer to ignore them, not give them 1 on 1 attention from male role models? Big Brother is founded on that principle and incidents have been extremely rare. Why would Big Brother or TSM need to help kids from solid homes?

There's a direct conflict between "wanting to protect kids" and "wanting to help kids, " isnt there?

Sounds good, but is there/ was there really a great similarity between Big Brother and The Second Mile?
Big Brother has a good reputation; The Second Mile probably did help some kids; however, you can't ignore that it was founded by Jerry Sandusky and served as a means for his procurement of young boys to abuse.
 
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You can give a kid one-on-one attention in a public place where there are other people around.

Still gotta drive there & back in most places.

There's a whole spectrum between a public place & in a shower naked together & alone. I don't know where the red line is, but there must be one, because the shower's ... not ok.
 
Sounds good, but is there/ was there really a great similarity between Big Brother and The Second Mile?
Big Brother has a good reputation; The Second Mile probably did help some kids; however, you can't ignore that it was founded by Jerry Sandusky and served as a means for his procurement of young boys to abuse.

TSM had a stellar reputation for decades too. Only hindsight says it was a bad place and some people don't even believe that.
 
TSM had a stellar reputation for decades too. Only hindsight says it was a bad place and some people don't even believe that.
Not sure what your point is. Sandusky had a stellar reputation for decades; he received a ton of praise and recognition for his work. And, now, he doesn't have a stellar reputation because of what has come to light. Bill Cosby once had a stellar reputation, and now he doesn't.

Are you still trying to equate The Second Mile with Big Brothers?
 
Not sure what your point is. Sandusky had a stellar reputation for decades; he received a ton of praise and recognition for his work. And, now, he doesn't have a stellar reputation because of what has come to light. Bill Cosby once had a stellar reputation, and now he doesn't.

Are you still trying to equate The Second Mile with Big Brothers?
I'm saying that a boys charity and 1 on 1 activities are not necessarily red flags.
 
With all this Baylor and Bill Cosby news coming out, you might see some misguided comparisons to Joe Paterno and Penn State. They'll argue that "Joe knew and did nothing," which is obviously not true, but it's easy to find yourself in the weeds arguing semantics.

Bottom line, just tell them that in both 1998 and 2001, Penn State reported outside the university.
  • In 1998, FIVE independent agencies investigated Jerry (DA, CYS, DPW, UPPD, SCPD) and the commonwealth's childcare experts essentially gave Jerry their 'good housekeeping seal of approval.'
  • In 2001, Joe Paterno went above and beyond his reporting duty by reporting McQueary's watered-down story to his boss Tim Curley as well as the Head of Police Gary Schultz -- and the university then reported to Jerry's then-employer The Second Mile.
As Bruce Heim reminds us, the chain of command in reporting died at The Second Mile in 2001. We should probably revist his column every once in a while to keep things in perspective.

Bruce Heim: Shedding Light on the Second Mile's Decision Making
by Bruce Heim on October 07, 2015 10:30 AM | Print Comments (95)


Recently my involvement with the Second Mile has again come into question.

In response to complaints raised by a small but vocal group, Penn Staterescinded an invitation for me to participate in a pre-game military appreciation ceremony at the Penn State-Army game because of fear that some alumni are offended by my association with the Second Mile.

I was nominated and selected to participate in these pre-game events to represent the Vietnam era West Pointer. It was intended to be a tribute to the men and women with whom I served, not me personally. As a local businessman and Penn State alumnus, it was an honor to be asked to represent my fellow West Point graduates and military veterans who proudly served our country.

When the calls came to rescind the invitation, I believe that it dishonored not only the group that I was invited to represent, but dishonored me personally. The implication was that I was under a shadow of suspicion and had done something wrong. This was hard for me to explain to my grandchildren.

To those who still believe that the Second Mile as an organization, its employees, or affiliates including myself had some culpability in the Sandusky scandal based on conjecture, I hope to shed some light and context on the decisions that were made over a decade ago, at least as it relates to me and my role with these events.

These insights begin with one simple truism: Nobody that I know had any inkling that Jerry might be a pedophile.

It never occurred as a possibility until the release of the 2011 Grand Jury presentment that shocked a nation, destroyed a great charity, devastated a town, impugned a university, and by implication its wide alumni base, and maligned a personal friend, partner, and icon who did everything he was supposed to do with the information he had: Joe Paterno.

In the five years when I worked out at the Penn State football facility with some of the football staff (back in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s), I personally saw Jerry maybe two or three times in the shower with younger kids. He wasn’t alone with a child; it was the middle of the day and there were dozens of other people in the gym and locker room area.

It is important to note that in my generation, especially for athletes, taking showers in an open locker room with no privacy after exercising or participating in a sport was standard and normal behavior, regardless of age. It was not uncommon to see grown men with younger children together in a group shower. We grew up with it and, to a far lesser extent with changing societal norms, it continues today in gyms and health clubs all over the country.

At the time I worked out in the Penn State facilities, it just never occurred to me or others who saw him that Jerry may have been using what was a routine part of athletics and sport culture to groom young boys for inappropriate behavior.

In 2001, Penn State officials informed the Second Mile that Sandusky had been seen in the football shower with a child. When specifically asked if there was any act or event that would suggest inappropriate behavior, the Second Mile staff was told NO. When Second Mile Executive Director Jack Raykovitz came to me with this information seeking counsel, I advised him (as did others on the executive committee) that there was no need to bring it to the entire board. If anything, we thought it odd that this was even reported to us if there was no witnessed misconduct or even allegations of misconduct. However, as norms change, it was understandable that Penn State wanted the activity to stop. At the time, The Second Mile had no knowledge of the 1998 incident, which was not reported to us.

Contrary to the conspiracy theorists, nobody at the Second Mile knew anything about Jerry doing anything other than wonderful things with and for at-risk kids until 2008. Upon receipt of the 2008 report [when Sandusky informed the board he was under investigation], it was immediately taken to the board of The Second Mile for action, which in turn banned Jerry from all kid-related activities.

Nonetheless, even at that time it was hard to believe for many in this community that Jerry would have done anything wrong. In 30 years of working with disadvantaged and at-risk children, to our knowledge Jerry had not had a single allegation of even the slightest inappropriate behavior toward children. Not knowing details, we believed that the 2008 incident was a misunderstanding. Not knowing what we now know about grooming behaviors and the warning signs of pedophilia, at the time it was unfathomable to think that he would actually harm a child.

It is difficult to find words to describe the horror we felt when the 2011 presentment was revealed.

I know the Second Mile and its employees did nothing wrong as do the numerous investigative bodies who spent years looking for evidence of misconduct in the organization related to Jerry Sandusky’s crimes and found none. I have personally been interviewed at length by those organizations and testified in front of the Grand Jury for over two hours.

With the benefit of hindsight, who wouldn’t question if we could have done more or done things differently? Sadly, we do not now have that choice.

I am still saddened that Joe Paterno did not live to see resolution and I stand in firm support of his family and the actions they are taking to defend and restore his good name. The glaring rush to judgment and the circumventing of Joe Paterno’s due process rights continue to haunt the university, my Alma Mater.

Joe Paterno did everything right as outlined under the new reporting policies that Penn State established after this incident. Despite that, the media and the public excoriated him. In a very small way, and I am certainly not comparing the severity of the two, the process of events of this past week is analogous to what the Paterno family endured at the hands of the administration: a reactionary decision with a lack of due process casting suspicion over those who did nothing wrong.

I believe that the last chapter of this saga has yet to be written.

Editor's Note: This is an opinion editorial submitted to StateCollege.com by Bruce Heim.
 
People IGNORED it because he played the humanitarian card via his charity. He wasn't coaching a kids baseball team and picking the kids from solid homes. I would hope normal people are not afraid to coach as it only takes common sense as to avoid any misconceptions. That was my only point.

Folks, the reality is that if you coach youth sports these days, few of the families involved are from "solid homes". I'd say at least half the kids I had were from single parent households, one way or another. Others had stepparents. I coached a pair of sisters--same parents--and at the end of the day one went with one parent and one went with the other (and it broke the sisters' hearts as they were close). Both parents had SO's at the games--and they had not been separated that long. That's the new normal.
 
Folks, the reality is that if you coach youth sports these days, few of the families involved are from "solid homes". I'd say at least half the kids I had were from single parent households, one way or another. Others had stepparents. I coached a pair of sisters--same parents--and at the end of the day one went with one parent and one went with the other (and it broke the sisters' hearts as they were close). Both parents had SO's at the games--and they had not been separated that long. That's the new normal.

Again that also may have to do with the age of the kids or geography. I coached very young kids so at least one parent was always there. There wasn't one single exception to that in 2 years. I never once had to drive a kid, pick up a kid, or ever be alone with a child. Many of the youth soccer leagues now have paid coaches at very early stages. Both my nieces play on select teams and the cost to play is crazy which is another whole discussion. The coaches are paid and the amount of travel for tournaments is over the top. That being said my one sister is a single Mom, but she has two other parents in her position. They make themselves available to each other if one can't make it as the coaches are not there to babysit anymore, but they are paid to teach.

I have zero reason to fear coaching because of Jerry Sandusky, none. You set the expectations of the parents early on and let them know the responsibilities. If parents can't make it, you email the entire team seeing if someone can help out. There are socials issues for certain, but you can protect yourself IMO if that truly is a fear. It sucks that pedophiles exist and prey on children, but normal people that can use some common sense can avoid the trouble IMO if they put some thought into it. Sadly not all kids have parents that know to protect their children, but that again should not impact good innocent people from coaching. Let's remember Jerry hand picked troubled kids from his charity and he was not coaching their LL team. It's not an apples to apples comparison either.
 
With all this Baylor and Bill Cosby news coming out, you might see some misguided comparisons to Joe Paterno and Penn State. They'll argue that "Joe knew and did nothing," which is obviously not true, but it's easy to find yourself in the weeds arguing semantics.

Bottom line, just tell them that in both 1998 and 2001, Penn State reported outside the university.
  • In 1998, FIVE independent agencies investigated Jerry (DA, CYS, DPW, UPPD, SCPD) and the commonwealth's childcare experts essentially gave Jerry their 'good housekeeping seal of approval.'
  • In 2001, Joe Paterno went above and beyond his reporting duty by reporting McQueary's watered-down story to his boss Tim Curley as well as the Head of Police Gary Schultz -- and the university then reported to Jerry's then-employer The Second Mile.
As Bruce Heim reminds us, the chain of command in reporting died at The Second Mile in 2001. We should probably revist his column every once in a while to keep things in perspective.

Bruce Heim: Shedding Light on the Second Mile's Decision Making
by Bruce Heim on October 07, 2015 10:30 AM | Print Comments (95)


Recently my involvement with the Second Mile has again come into question.

In response to complaints raised by a small but vocal group, Penn Staterescinded an invitation for me to participate in a pre-game military appreciation ceremony at the Penn State-Army game because of fear that some alumni are offended by my association with the Second Mile.

I was nominated and selected to participate in these pre-game events to represent the Vietnam era West Pointer. It was intended to be a tribute to the men and women with whom I served, not me personally. As a local businessman and Penn State alumnus, it was an honor to be asked to represent my fellow West Point graduates and military veterans who proudly served our country.

When the calls came to rescind the invitation, I believe that it dishonored not only the group that I was invited to represent, but dishonored me personally. The implication was that I was under a shadow of suspicion and had done something wrong. This was hard for me to explain to my grandchildren.

To those who still believe that the Second Mile as an organization, its employees, or affiliates including myself had some culpability in the Sandusky scandal based on conjecture, I hope to shed some light and context on the decisions that were made over a decade ago, at least as it relates to me and my role with these events.

These insights begin with one simple truism: Nobody that I know had any inkling that Jerry might be a pedophile.

It never occurred as a possibility until the release of the 2011 Grand Jury presentment that shocked a nation, destroyed a great charity, devastated a town, impugned a university, and by implication its wide alumni base, and maligned a personal friend, partner, and icon who did everything he was supposed to do with the information he had: Joe Paterno.

In the five years when I worked out at the Penn State football facility with some of the football staff (back in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s), I personally saw Jerry maybe two or three times in the shower with younger kids. He wasn’t alone with a child; it was the middle of the day and there were dozens of other people in the gym and locker room area.

It is important to note that in my generation, especially for athletes, taking showers in an open locker room with no privacy after exercising or participating in a sport was standard and normal behavior, regardless of age. It was not uncommon to see grown men with younger children together in a group shower. We grew up with it and, to a far lesser extent with changing societal norms, it continues today in gyms and health clubs all over the country.

At the time I worked out in the Penn State facilities, it just never occurred to me or others who saw him that Jerry may have been using what was a routine part of athletics and sport culture to groom young boys for inappropriate behavior.

In 2001, Penn State officials informed the Second Mile that Sandusky had been seen in the football shower with a child. When specifically asked if there was any act or event that would suggest inappropriate behavior, the Second Mile staff was told NO. When Second Mile Executive Director Jack Raykovitz came to me with this information seeking counsel, I advised him (as did others on the executive committee) that there was no need to bring it to the entire board. If anything, we thought it odd that this was even reported to us if there was no witnessed misconduct or even allegations of misconduct. However, as norms change, it was understandable that Penn State wanted the activity to stop. At the time, The Second Mile had no knowledge of the 1998 incident, which was not reported to us.

Contrary to the conspiracy theorists, nobody at the Second Mile knew anything about Jerry doing anything other than wonderful things with and for at-risk kids until 2008. Upon receipt of the 2008 report [when Sandusky informed the board he was under investigation], it was immediately taken to the board of The Second Mile for action, which in turn banned Jerry from all kid-related activities.

Nonetheless, even at that time it was hard to believe for many in this community that Jerry would have done anything wrong. In 30 years of working with disadvantaged and at-risk children, to our knowledge Jerry had not had a single allegation of even the slightest inappropriate behavior toward children. Not knowing details, we believed that the 2008 incident was a misunderstanding. Not knowing what we now know about grooming behaviors and the warning signs of pedophilia, at the time it was unfathomable to think that he would actually harm a child.

It is difficult to find words to describe the horror we felt when the 2011 presentment was revealed.

I know the Second Mile and its employees did nothing wrong as do the numerous investigative bodies who spent years looking for evidence of misconduct in the organization related to Jerry Sandusky’s crimes and found none. I have personally been interviewed at length by those organizations and testified in front of the Grand Jury for over two hours.

With the benefit of hindsight, who wouldn’t question if we could have done more or done things differently? Sadly, we do not now have that choice.

I am still saddened that Joe Paterno did not live to see resolution and I stand in firm support of his family and the actions they are taking to defend and restore his good name. The glaring rush to judgment and the circumventing of Joe Paterno’s due process rights continue to haunt the university, my Alma Mater.

Joe Paterno did everything right as outlined under the new reporting policies that Penn State established after this incident. Despite that, the media and the public excoriated him. In a very small way, and I am certainly not comparing the severity of the two, the process of events of this past week is analogous to what the Paterno family endured at the hands of the administration: a reactionary decision with a lack of due process casting suspicion over those who did nothing wrong.

I believe that the last chapter of this saga has yet to be written.

Editor's Note: This is an opinion editorial submitted to StateCollege.com by Bruce Heim.
Cousin Brucie can go swing on it.
 
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Whatever you might think about Heim--that editorial is still a far better defense of Penn State and Joe than anything we've heard to date from the Old Guard.
 
This is where Bruce's logic train goes off the rails (showering with a child <> inappropriate behavior). PSU obviously thought it was inappropriate otherwise why would McQueary talk to Joe...Joe talk to Tim and Tim have a conversation with Jack Raykovitz. IMO, the actions of everyone involved here demonstrate that they understand the inappropriateness of a grown man showering with a child late at night except....wait for it....the very people who are the mandatory reporters (TSM Raykovitz and Bruce Heim). It's laughable and criminal and repugnant all at the same time.
Exaaactly.

How does Bruce Heim respond to Penn State's ban on Sandusky from bringing kids into the showers after a report of inappropriate activity?
  • First, he tells Jack Raykovitz to STFU about it to the TSM BOD. This is where the chain-of-command in reporting died (in violation of The Second Mile's state mandate).
  • Then, Sandusky is magically granted special permissions to bring children into the pool and gym facilities at the Hilton Garden Inn (owned by Heim) where the abuse continued.
"Nobody that I know had any inkling that Jerry might be a pedophile." - Bruce Heim :eek:
"We've had to tell [Sandusky] to back off certain kids before." - Jack's wife Kitty Genovese :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, Joe said no to Jerry bringing kids into football facilities. Who had the power to overrule Paterno's objections? Is that in the Freeh Report somewhere?
 
With all this Baylor and Bill Cosby news coming out, you might see some misguided comparisons to Joe Paterno and Penn State. They'll argue that "Joe knew and did nothing," which is obviously not true, but it's easy to find yourself in the weeds arguing semantics.

Bottom line, just tell them that in both 1998 and 2001, Penn State reported outside the university.
  • In 1998, FIVE independent agencies investigated Jerry (DA, CYS, DPW, UPPD, SCPD) and the commonwealth's childcare experts essentially gave Jerry their 'good housekeeping seal of approval.'
  • In 2001, Joe Paterno went above and beyond his reporting duty by reporting McQueary's watered-down story to his boss Tim Curley as well as the Head of Police Gary Schultz -- and the university then reported to Jerry's then-employer The Second Mile.
As Bruce Heim reminds us, the chain of command in reporting died at The Second Mile in 2001. We should probably revist his column every once in a while to keep things in perspective.

Bruce Heim: Shedding Light on the Second Mile's Decision Making
by Bruce Heim on October 07, 2015 10:30 AM | Print Comments (95)


Recently my involvement with the Second Mile has again come into question.

In response to complaints raised by a small but vocal group, Penn Staterescinded an invitation for me to participate in a pre-game military appreciation ceremony at the Penn State-Army game because of fear that some alumni are offended by my association with the Second Mile.

I was nominated and selected to participate in these pre-game events to represent the Vietnam era West Pointer. It was intended to be a tribute to the men and women with whom I served, not me personally. As a local businessman and Penn State alumnus, it was an honor to be asked to represent my fellow West Point graduates and military veterans who proudly served our country.

When the calls came to rescind the invitation, I believe that it dishonored not only the group that I was invited to represent, but dishonored me personally. The implication was that I was under a shadow of suspicion and had done something wrong. This was hard for me to explain to my grandchildren.

To those who still believe that the Second Mile as an organization, its employees, or affiliates including myself had some culpability in the Sandusky scandal based on conjecture, I hope to shed some light and context on the decisions that were made over a decade ago, at least as it relates to me and my role with these events.

These insights begin with one simple truism: Nobody that I know had any inkling that Jerry might be a pedophile.

It never occurred as a possibility until the release of the 2011 Grand Jury presentment that shocked a nation, destroyed a great charity, devastated a town, impugned a university, and by implication its wide alumni base, and maligned a personal friend, partner, and icon who did everything he was supposed to do with the information he had: Joe Paterno.

In the five years when I worked out at the Penn State football facility with some of the football staff (back in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s), I personally saw Jerry maybe two or three times in the shower with younger kids. He wasn’t alone with a child; it was the middle of the day and there were dozens of other people in the gym and locker room area.

It is important to note that in my generation, especially for athletes, taking showers in an open locker room with no privacy after exercising or participating in a sport was standard and normal behavior, regardless of age. It was not uncommon to see grown men with younger children together in a group shower. We grew up with it and, to a far lesser extent with changing societal norms, it continues today in gyms and health clubs all over the country.

At the time I worked out in the Penn State facilities, it just never occurred to me or others who saw him that Jerry may have been using what was a routine part of athletics and sport culture to groom young boys for inappropriate behavior.

In 2001, Penn State officials informed the Second Mile that Sandusky had been seen in the football shower with a child. When specifically asked if there was any act or event that would suggest inappropriate behavior, the Second Mile staff was told NO. When Second Mile Executive Director Jack Raykovitz came to me with this information seeking counsel, I advised him (as did others on the executive committee) that there was no need to bring it to the entire board. If anything, we thought it odd that this was even reported to us if there was no witnessed misconduct or even allegations of misconduct. However, as norms change, it was understandable that Penn State wanted the activity to stop. At the time, The Second Mile had no knowledge of the 1998 incident, which was not reported to us.

Contrary to the conspiracy theorists, nobody at the Second Mile knew anything about Jerry doing anything other than wonderful things with and for at-risk kids until 2008. Upon receipt of the 2008 report [when Sandusky informed the board he was under investigation], it was immediately taken to the board of The Second Mile for action, which in turn banned Jerry from all kid-related activities.

Nonetheless, even at that time it was hard to believe for many in this community that Jerry would have done anything wrong. In 30 years of working with disadvantaged and at-risk children, to our knowledge Jerry had not had a single allegation of even the slightest inappropriate behavior toward children. Not knowing details, we believed that the 2008 incident was a misunderstanding. Not knowing what we now know about grooming behaviors and the warning signs of pedophilia, at the time it was unfathomable to think that he would actually harm a child.

It is difficult to find words to describe the horror we felt when the 2011 presentment was revealed.

I know the Second Mile and its employees did nothing wrong as do the numerous investigative bodies who spent years looking for evidence of misconduct in the organization related to Jerry Sandusky’s crimes and found none. I have personally been interviewed at length by those organizations and testified in front of the Grand Jury for over two hours.

With the benefit of hindsight, who wouldn’t question if we could have done more or done things differently? Sadly, we do not now have that choice.

I am still saddened that Joe Paterno did not live to see resolution and I stand in firm support of his family and the actions they are taking to defend and restore his good name. The glaring rush to judgment and the circumventing of Joe Paterno’s due process rights continue to haunt the university, my Alma Mater.

Joe Paterno did everything right as outlined under the new reporting policies that Penn State established after this incident. Despite that, the media and the public excoriated him. In a very small way, and I am certainly not comparing the severity of the two, the process of events of this past week is analogous to what the Paterno family endured at the hands of the administration: a reactionary decision with a lack of due process casting suspicion over those who did nothing wrong.

I believe that the last chapter of this saga has yet to be written.

Editor's Note: This is an opinion editorial submitted to StateCollege.com by Bruce Heim.

Odd, these self-serving claims by both Heim and Raykovitz as to what Raykovitz and TSM were told when Tim Curley gave Raykovitz/TSM PSU's official position on the matter don't quite line up with what this TSM Board Member (2001-2005), a former Center County Judge and prosecutor, has to say on the matter! HERE IS THE LINK with lots of excerpts that conflict with Raykovitz's and Heim's absurdly self-serving comments on the matter, especially when you consider that TSM was a MANDATORY REPORTER on the matter under CPSL!!!

"Not one thing was said to us," said Bradley P. Lunsford, a Centre County judge who served on the board for The Second Mile between 2001 and 2005. "Not a damn thing."

If more information had been given to board members, they "would have asked the follow-up question: Why? You don't know? Who knows? Who can we talk to? Has this been reported to the police?" Lunsford said. "I guarantee you there would have been a competition among all those people to be the first to ask the question, 'Why is he not allowed on campus?' "

Lunsford and four other former board members at The Second Mile point the finger at Jack Raykovitz, a close friend of Sandusky's who ran the charity until resigning following the former coach's Nov. 5 arrest

A former prosecutor, Lunsford said Raykovitz had an obligation to tell the board. "There are a number of people around that table who have been involved with children's charities for years and there's a very good chance that if given accurate information about what the allegation was, there's a lot of people around that table who could have done something about it."

Asked what Curley told him, Raykovitz cited a Nov. 6 Second Mile statement that referred only to inappropriate conduct: "At no time was The Second Mile made aware of the very serious allegations contained in the Grand Jury report."
What a lame statement and cop-out this portion of Raykovitz's statement is given that Curley (and Mike McQueary HIMSELF as well as Dr. Dranov, Schultz and everybody else McQueary spoke to....) say that Curley was never told of the "very serious allegations contained in the SWIGJ Presentment.....", but it DOES NOT ADDRESS the point that Curley did tell him that the witness found JS's behavior very upsetting and his conduct highly inappropriate - see the following excerpt from the article itself:

Penn State athletic director Tim Curley testified that a graduate assistant had told him in 2002 only that he had seen "inappropriate conduct" that made him feel uncomfortable, and nothing of a sexual nature. But Mike McQueary, now an assistant coach, testified to the grand jury that he told Curley he saw what he believed to be Sandusky raping the boy, who he said was about 10.

But Lunsford said the charity's board couldn't take action in 2002 that might have prevented other assaults of children "if there's a cover-up from the source."

Even if Raykovitz had only limited information, he still should have acted more aggressively in 2002 when contacted by Curley and should have viewed Curley's ban on Sandusky bringing The Second Mile kids to campus as "a red flag," Lunsford said.

As the person in charge, Raykovitz was legally required to provide the board all available information whether he believed it was true or suspected it was false, Lunsford said.

"We still need to know. That's our job," he added. "By not telling us, it essentially rendered us ineffective and we had no chance to help those children."

David Woodle, acting CEO, refused to address concerns raised by board members about Raykovitz's handling of information regarding the 2002 shower incident, saying to do so would be a distraction from the goal of helping serve children.

Huh? Seriously? You've got to be kidding me with this phucking absurd statement from Raykovitz's successor - one thing there is no shortage of at TSM and that would be absurd, self-serving statements from it's "C Suite" hypocrite executives and directors!!!

The board of directors of a children's charity is responsible for making sure that it operates under reasonable policies and procedures to protect children, according to Daniel Borochoff, president of Chicago-based Charity Watch. Individual board members can face lawsuits for failing in their oversight duties, and The Second Mile insures its board members against such claims.

David Marshall, a Washington, D.C., lawyer who represents other accusers, said: "It may have been only Sandusky who laid his hands on these children, but it is clear that a number of other individuals and agencies placed the children in harm's way by knowingly taking actions that allowed the abuse to continue even after they became fully aware of it."

Raykovitz referred questions about what he did in 2008 to a prior statement, which said that when Sandusky told The Second Mile he was being investigated because of allegations made "by an adolescent male," the organization separated him from "all of our program activities involving children." The Second Mile statement makes no mention of the sexual nature of the 2008 complaint.

He said in the interview last week some staff at The Second Mile were informed in 2008 that the complaint was the reason Sandusky was not participating in programs serving children, but only on an "as-needed basis."

Bonnie Marshall, the charity's vice president for development, said Raykovitz described the 2008 complaint to her and other senior staff as a general abuse complaint, not one of a sexual nature.

She said Raykovitz explained that Sandusky would be taking a break from programs with children but would continue fundraising.

She said she also was unaware of Genovese's conversation with Rosamilia, and was not aware that anyone at the charity had ever spoken to Sandusky about getting too close to The Second Mile children.

In 2009, when Sandusky left the charity's board, Raykovitz told the staff that child welfare officials had issued a finding of abuse against Sandusky, Marshall said. But, she added, Raykovitz described it only as a general complaint being pursued by an angry mother who had accused Sandusky of wrongdoing, not a complaint of sexual abuse.

"I thought he would have told me that this was something really bad," Marshall said. "And he didn't."

Very ODD how the ONLY PARTY who doesn't think that The Second Mile is responsible for handling all of the incidents INAPPROPRIATELY and AT VARIANCE with Pennsylvania Child Protective Services Law, the GOVERNING PA STATUTE on all of this "CSA Reporting" is the ever-corrupt rec-Tom Corbutt controlled Office of ATTORNEY GENERAL, The Second Mile's REGULATOR in regards to the PREVENTION OF USE OF THE CHARITY FOR FRAUDULENT and CRIMINAL PURPOSES!!!! Beyond ODD actually and QUITE TELLING regarding Corbutt's CORRUPT administration of PA's OAG!!!
 
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^^ Great stuff, GR.

Found an article from 1981 (courtesy of @JmmyW and @no1lion99) that explains who would be feeding The Second Mile's foster care services with at-risk kids. Was any of this mentioned in the Freeh Report?

"Sandusky said the home will be for troubled boys who are not in reform schools, but who lack an adequate family life. Potential residents will be referred to Second Mile by Juvenile Court, Child Welfare Services and other childcare agencies. The home initiall y will house six boys, with plans for expanding to 24 residents in the future, Sandusky said. It will be constructed on two acres of land near Beaver Stadium. A recent report by Children Services said as many as 60 children in Central Pennsylvania are in need of some sort of alternative home like Second Mile." (Daily Collegian, 1981).

^^ See how Judge Grine just "court-ordered" Matt Sandusky into Jerry's home against his mother's desperate objections? Jerry spells it all out in "Touched," but none of this is ever mentioned at trial or in the Freeh Report.
  • Looking back at the #KidsForCash scandal in Luzerne County where judges were receiving kickbacks for stocking private prisons chock-full of kids, it makes you wonder if there was a similar deal in place for The Second Mile.
  • Not to mention all the state funds that were pouring into TSM (inflated by TSM claiming to service 100,000 kids).
  • And someone in the comments section said about Jerry, "Even worse, he was permitted to claim over twenty Child and Dependent Care Credits each year."
Jack Raykovitz and Kitty Genovese had $2.2 million reasons to STFU about Jerry, as Bruce instructed.
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^^ Great stuff, GR.

Found an article from 1981 (courtesy of @JmmyW and @no1lion99) that explains who would be feeding The Second Mile's foster care services with at-risk kids. Was any of this mentioned in the Freeh Report?

"Sandusky said the home will be for troubled boys who are not in reform schools, but who lack an adequate family life. Potential residents will be referred to Second Mile by Juvenile Court, Child Welfare Services and other childcare agencies. The home initiall y will house six boys, with plans for expanding to 24 residents in the future, Sandusky said. It will be constructed on two acres of land near Beaver Stadium. A recent report by Children Services said as many as 60 children in Central Pennsylvania are in need of some sort of alternative home like Second Mile." (Daily Collegian, 1981).

^^ See how Judge Grine just "court-ordered" Matt Sandusky into Jerry's home against his mother's desperate objections? Jerry spells it all out in "Touched," but none of this is ever mentioned at trial or in the Freeh Report.
  • Looking back at the #KidsForCash scandal in Luzerne County where judges were receiving kickbacks for stocking private prisons chock-full of kids, it makes you wonder if there was a similar deal in place for The Second Mile.
  • Not to mention all the state funds that were pouring into TSM (inflated by TSM claiming to service 100,000 kids).
  • And someone in the comments section said about Jerry, "Even worse, he was permitted to claim over twenty Child and Dependent Care Credits each year."
Jack Raykovitz and Kitty Genovese had $2.2 million reasons to STFU about Jerry, as Bruce instructed.
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Jack and Kitty were knocking it down at a teeny tiny charity, and not working very hard for it. It was a damn sweet deal. And nobody has ever said boo to them about it.
 
I'm not a troll, but believe what you want to believe. I believe Penn State was falsely accused, but I also believe that people here are engaging in the same kind of behavior they accuse the media of....




I'm not shifting blame to Penn State OR The Second Mile. I think Sandusky is to blame for Sandusky's actions.


Its your right to complain about blame shifting if you wish, but its very naive to think that Sandusky could have gotten away with his actions without some form of protection. Do I think some people at PSU protected him? Yes. Do I know that some at TSM did? Yes. Tons of evidence including Heim and Raykovitz's own words.
 
Its your right to complain about blame shifting if you wish, but its very naive to think that Sandusky could have gotten away with his actions without some form of protection.

Well, tons of child molesters and rapists get away their crimes for decades, without protection from a major school or a big charity. Most people arrested for sex crimes are poor or middle class and aren't VIPs or well-connected. If THOSE people can get away with it.....


And as for Matt Sandusky being "court-ordered" to live with Sandusky....Sandusky hadn't been reported to the authorities at the time, nor did anyone have any reason to believe he was anything other than a good guy back in '95. Matt claims his biological home was filled with physical abuse, poverty, and neglect, so based on what was known at the time why would anyone care about his mom's "objections" since by all accounts she was a shitty mom?
 
Well, tons of child molesters and rapists get away their crimes for decades, without protection from a major school or a big charity. Most people arrested for sex crimes are poor or middle class and aren't VIPs or well-connected. If THOSE people can get away with it.....


And as for Matt Sandusky being "court-ordered" to live with Sandusky....Sandusky hadn't been reported to the authorities at the time, nor did anyone have any reason to believe he was anything other than a good guy back in '95. Matt claims his biological home was filled with physical abuse, poverty, and neglect, so based on what was known at the time why would anyone care about his mom's "objections" since by all accounts she was a shitty mom?

Got it, so the experts for the State and The Second Mile - the identical set of people in Centre County, PA btw - were wrong for 4 decades in regards to "Foster Parenting" placements, Adoption placements, Group Homes and Sandusky's intentions & work at The Second Mile itself as the Founder & most-powerful regulatory-listed "Control Person.....but the "football coach" who had zippity-do-dah-day to do with supervising Sandusky's philanthropic and charity endeavors with kids should have known immediately and taken the law into his own hands.....???? Whatever, you are such an "apologist" and servile @ssclown for the people who are truly responsible for these kids being abused for near a half century, it is just pathetic, while at the same time carrying their "false narrative" water and throwing innocent people under the bus with your pathetic "character assassination" baseless ad hominem attacks.....pathetic, you are truly a pathetic POS!!!
 
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