tOSU and Michigan
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Didn't see the match, but it isn't a matter of holds. It is weather the nearfall situation ended and a new one began. If the defensive wrestler is still at risk of being put back into criteria, then the official will hold awarding the points until it is clear the situation has ended.
This is one of those rules that many fans don't understand.
Yes, if Nick gets to the semis I'll be happy. After that there is no one he can't beat for 3rd.
I think UM presents a big problem for tOSU at tourney time.
Pletcher and Snyder are 2 wrestlers who figure to finish ahead of us, but Micic and Coon could move them down a step on the podium. Panteleo could potentially place between Nolf and Micah, Amine could move BoJo another spot down the podium.
We've had the chance to watch 3 great duals the last 2 weeks.
Did he forget to bring hell with him again? 
In all seriousness, Snyder is an absolute class act. He handled that defeat like the champion he is.
Coon presents a literal big problem for Snyder. It's rare for a guy to have to cut to 285 that isn't fat. Coon is just big and powerful. I'm certainly not counting Kyle Snyder out of anything. However, I think he would likely lose in rideout to Coon, so, he needs to find the take down. Great win by Coon, who also seems like a class act.
In all seriousness, Snyder is an absolute class act. He handled that defeat like the champion he is.
Coon presents a literal big problem for Snyder. It's rare for a guy to have to cut to 285 that isn't fat. Coon is just big and powerful. I'm certainly not counting Kyle Snyder out of anything. However, I think he would likely lose in rideout to Coon, so, he needs to find the take down. Great win by Coon, who also seems like a class act.
Meh. That's all poppycock IMO. Coon clearly had this match circled for a long time and had a great plan to defend against Snyder's low shots. Coon won that match; Snyder didn't lose it. And Coon's 45-50 lb weight advantage didn't hurt his cause.
If Coon beats Snyder two more times AND they change the Hodge criteria ... maybe then.
Was a great match, best HWT match since the Snyder-Gwiz OT NCAA finals ... which might have been the best HWT match of all time.Impressive prescience on your part.
Disagree; we need Nolf, even if he's less than 100%. Without him, PSU takes a big fat zero at 157. Don't think we can afford to essentially get shut out at three weights (125, 133, 157; please don't tell me that Keener has a shot to AA). Hoping like hell that Nolf can go at NCAAs, but we probably won't know one way or the other until March 15.
It never really comes off. I was working in Pittsburgh several decades ago and while there i took two classes at Pitt. Somehow I recovered, but I have this very little nagging, yet constant desire that when ambulating, running or doing most things physical to do them in reverse.
Good points. I don't like Keener's chance to AA, so, I agree that we'd be scoring little at three weights. My comment was more directed towards Ohio State seeming to have a lot more question marks than they did a month ago. I now think we would have a chance without Nolf, but, I hope we don't have to find out.
You know Tan, Lougie and Tommy will all have explanations on why this singular match should not define the Hodge.
Turns out duals matter.
Yep, 8 days ago the Bucks had 4 unbeaten wrestlers, today they have none.
A lot of wrestling yet to go, but this reminds me a bit of Okie St last year. Favorites through much of the year, then by February they began to show chinks in their Armour.
You will have to run over to HR and ask bp_roids. He will know. If not there you can find him in the Hawk wrestling advising TnT on practice.
Huh .... Just make sure you hide it from your wife if you ever get the urge to browse Craigslist for hookers.
Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
In wrestling terms that translates to everybody is gonna be number one until they wrestle the Lions.
You have to give credit where it is due though. The best dual meet team ever looks fairly strong as a second place team.
I am probably safe as long as I do not attend Midlands.
Finally saw end - though DVR skipped end of first, all of second, and a minute of the 3rd of Coon-Snyder. Need to get on Watch EsPn.
Anyway, Folkstyle different than freestyle. Glad Coon punctured the balloon of all the freestyle cultists. Of course, helps to have 60 lbs on Snyder, but them’s the rules here in Murica.
Cael still the folkstyle GOAT.
Great dual for our purposes as tOSU took some seeding hits. As an aside, Myles was lucky not to blow out a knee in last scramble. That looked ugly
Anyway, Folkstyle different than freestyle. Glad Coon punctured the balloon of all the freestyle cultists. Of course, helps to have 60 lbs on Snyder, but them’s the rules here in Murica.
Cael still the folkstyle GOAT.
Great dual for our purposes as tOSU took some seeding hits. As an aside, Myles was lucky not to blow out a knee in last scramble. That looked ugly
Thanks i am pretty remarkable. Watching coon this year i was surprised first how much taller he was than nevills. Then nevills was so much bigger than Snyder and when he put his weight on him Snyder just couldn’t deal with it. I figured with coons athleticism and weight and height advantage it would be to much for Snyder. Now that they have wrestled does Snyder adapt somehow and win or does coon beat him worse now that the presence of Snyder is not as great as it was before the match. Big psychological edge for coon.Impressive prescience on your part.
I guess, but it felt more like this:
EDIT: hmmm, not sure what went wrong with my noob attempt at posting a pic, but i promise it was a VERY clever (tho low quality) photoshop of Coon as Andre the Giant fighting with Wesley in Princess Bride.
dunno, but maybe you can see it by going here: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/s...xmSp_nYY9dUUYcao79OWPc_bz7zuH-lcym8qEuNw=w874
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UM coaches might have lost the dual by using their challenge at 125. Even if successful it was only going to make a 1 point difference between a major of TF. If they saved it for 184 it could have amounted to the difference between a win or a loss.
Yeah, but I think the correct call was made at 184. Sure, it would have been worth a challenge, but I think the Abounader TD came after the buzzer.
What UM really needed was for Pantaleo to stick Jordan in the 157 bout, when he had the cradle locked up for 30-40 seconds. Would have been three more team points for UM.
Tan Tom should have just handled the whole thing differently. Too bad duals don't matter...
Wow. All the credit in the world to Coon. He came out to win tonight. Everyone keeps commenting on how big he is but that didn't appear to be the difference. He's not just big like Stoll, he was active on offense, aggressive and agile. He had a great gas tank also. He wasn't just pushing and tying up. He had a plan and he executed it. Incredibly impressive tonight. Just a last little note, it's the 2nd consecutive match that Snyder definitely gassed. Not good for Snyder at all.
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Buckeye excuse train chugging along tonight on social media.
We now totally have to revamp the weight classes.
We now totally have to revamp the weight classes.
Tom Ryan retweeted this excuse (not how Cael would've handled it, imo).
It's true that Snyder gives up significant size to Coon and many other college opponents. But he's beaten Coon before. Snyder signed up to wrestle HWT and knew what he was getting into when he did so. Not a good look for his coach to be playing up the size excuse only after the loss.
What other excuse did you expect him to use? He's already used the flu, long bus ride, and average official excuses.
Curiously enough, Tan Tom was last seen bragging about Snyder working out with Akgul. Last I checked, Akgul is a very large, highly skilled wrestler.
Holy puddle of tears over spilled milk.
Besides, it’s incorrect to compare the numerical differences from 133-197 vs 225-280 — rather, it’s much more effective to compare the percentage differences. (~ 48% to ~ 24%)
Regatdless, I doubt Snyder would use those as an excuse - Kyle is an elite competitor & knows what he signed up for - but his crybaby coach immediately grasping for straws.
Besides, it’s incorrect to compare the numerical differences from 133-197 vs 225-280 — rather, it’s much more effective to compare the percentage differences. (~ 48% to ~ 24%)
Regatdless, I doubt Snyder would use those as an excuse - Kyle is an elite competitor & knows what he signed up for - but his crybaby coach immediately grasping for straws.
Tommy's tears stain Captain America's shield and Ryan should be ashamed of himself.
However. What I have learned following HR is when it comes to wrestling and losing the Hawks are still the champs at rationalization and Tom Ryan is a Hawk.
The last two weekends has TanTom counting down the days until his mid-March Aruba flight.
Has anybody contacted Iowa to inform them that a very large, talented college wrestler instead of deferring to an undersized backup in fear of Captain accidentally breaking them accepted the challenge, took the mat and competed with Captain and shyt me a river - won.
Just saying, maybe the Iowa way could have been handled differently.
Just saying, maybe the Iowa way could have been handled differently.
Exactly what I was thinking. Nobody is going to confuse tOSU with MIT when it comes to math ...
My god .... that’s beyond embarrassing for Ryan to do that.
Coon's height and weight are a huge advantage of Snyder. His length combined with his weight allows him to fight off Snyder's single legs. The length stretches Snyder out and when Coon sprawls 285 pounds is coming down on Snyder's head and neck, completely negates Snyder's strength. Snyder was in deep several times and could not finish.
Of course Coon is very good besides large. His Greco skills keep Snyder tied up in neutral making it much more difficult to get his offense going.
The great news is we should get to see these two go at two more times.
