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This just in. Reports from Coralville Iowa citing DeSanto has been seen walking through town dragging a Chucky doll from Child’s Play by one arm. He’s demanding a best of 3 wrestle off with Spencer Lee and states is already up 1 match to zero based off winning the last high school state finals match.
 
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Meet me halfway and at least state your level of confidence in the accuracy of each component of your OP. You can do that without revealing anyone’s identity.
Well I'm 100% confident in the person who text me the information. And knowing I was the 1st to post anything about it but now we are seeing other "reports" of it I'd say it is pretty valid.
 
You're reading comprehension really sucks then, why am I not surprised? This is a direct quote from a post in this thread, "I was there and next to Ryan Shreiver when Desanto came off the mat and said hey man we’re on the same team and Coach Brands got a hold of him and pulled him away.".
MY reading comprehension sucks?? Good Grief man. The post CLEARLY states that our poster is posting two other peoples completely different Facebook accounts of the post match "Incident". He NEVER professes to be an eyewitness.......merely that he is posting two very different posts from Facebook. Yes.....one Iowa poster made those quotes....but another Iowa poster said pretty much the opposite. You can't see the difference between an actual eyewitness from our board and a repost of two differing posts from other's Facebook claims?? Why am I NOT SURPRISED? Seriously dude....do better. It starts with actually comprehending what you read and accurately reporting what is actually written. You have failed miserably at both. Insulting me.......when you are the one bastardizing the written word is both laughable, quite revealing and frighteningly sad
 
This is the 2nd "he threatened to kill someone" rumor about ADS this year. Those are very serious accusations to post without any kind of evidence. There's always conflicting accounts (like there is right now) and/or no punishment that matches the allegations (would there really not even be a point docked if he did it at NCAAs?). My guess for both cases is it's probably closer to the "mild version" (ADS mouthed off very loudly) but people want to spice it up because people would buy those kind of allegations against ADS because of his past. Bottom line, pretty unfair to the kid and we should be better than this if we want to condemn HR for their fake PED and cheating rumors.
 
I could give 2 craps on what johny Joy boy aka Mineo steals in a screen shot from another group and he 100% did because I know who posted that as Well.

My post the original was based on a txt I received from a very trusting source who has a lot of Iowa connections.
 
This is the 2nd "he threatened to kill someone" rumor about ADS this year. Those are very serious accusations to post without any kind of evidence. There's always conflicting accounts (like there is right now) and/or no punishment that matches the allegations (would there really not even be a point docked if he did it at NCAAs?). My guess for both cases is it's probably closer to the "mild version" (ADS mouthed off very loudly) but people want to spice it up because people would buy those kind of allegations against ADS because of his past. Bottom line, pretty unfair to the kid and we should be better than this if we want to condemn HR for their fake PED and cheating rumors.
Very true. The previous incident produced many claims about what AD said and/or did. The video clearly showed that the interaction was so brief and AD's lips move for such a short time than most of the supposed and severe accusations couldn't possibly have occurred. I am not a Desanto fan or an Iowa hater. I just think facts....and not the exaggerated screamings of some people...should determine the reactions and possible punishment for what ACTUALLY occurred........not what a FB post or two claims
 
I could give 2 craps on what johny Joy boy aka Mineo steals in a screen shot from another group and he 100% did because I know who posted that as Well.

My post the original was based on a txt I received from a very trusting source who has a lot of Iowa connections.
So you are a friend of a guy that sent you a text about DeSanto, that he learned from friends of his that are connected to Iowa?

That rock solid info you got from a friend of a friend made you so so inclined to start a vague thread on HR and drag DeSanto through the mud multiple times all day Sunday? Got it.
 
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So you are a friend of a guy that sent you a text about DeSanto, that he learned from friends of his that are connected to Iowa?

That rock solid info you got from a friend of a friend made you so so inclined to start a vague thread on HR and drag DeSanto through the mud multiple times all day Sunday? Got it.
He probably has more ties to Iowa than you.. Just saying.
 
So you are a friend of a guy that sent you a text about DeSanto, that he learned from friends of his that are connected to Iowa?

That rock solid info you got from a friend of a friend made you so so inclined to start a vague thread on HR and drag DeSanto through the mud multiple times all day Sunday? Got it.

Don't agree with Str8DBLz starting a thread on HR about this, but many HR posters have drug PSU coaches and wrestlers through the mud based on far less than "friend of a friend" type info. Maybe you should try calling them out as well, Turk.
 
You started a thread to trash an Iowa wrestler on the Iowa board based on a text you received from friend who has a friend in Iowa?


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Don't agree with Str8DBLz starting a thread on HR about this, but many HR posters have drug PSU coaches and wrestlers through the mud based on far less than "friend of a friend" type info. Maybe you should try calling them out as well, Turk.
I have to some degree in the past. Especially about the Sandusky crap. I get shut down like the rest of you.

I don't start threads here really much at all. I usually just respond to the Iowa related banter. If I did start one, it certainly wouldn't be one lambasting one one of your wrestlers.
 
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On another Desanto note shcriever did take him down a cpl times and got in on his legs a cpl more. First tournament , yea, but i would think that match shouldn’t be close.
 
I think you must be thinking of this post by @86PSUPaul :


To be clear though--PSUPaul was copying and pasting 2 posts he'd read in the facebook group--he personally was not there, I don't believe.
To be clear, yes I cut and pasted two posts, on my ipad, I guess I could have been clearer, and actually had the w in two.

I was not there, I just shared two slightly different posts from FB, sorry for not identifying them better.
 
To be clear, yes I cut and pasted two posts, on my ipad, I guess I could have been clearer, and actually had the w in two.

I was not there, I just shared two slightly different posts from FB, sorry for not identifying them better.
My first thought was, "damn @86PSUPaul is really hitting the scouting trail hard". I was impressed that you were at the Luther Open taking notes on the Hawks. Now my bubble is burst.

That said, this thread is not a good look for us. If that crap really happened, it will be dealt with. If it didn't, we will all wish that we didn't propagate Mineo rumors on this forum.
 
Well I'm 100% confident in the person who text me the information. And knowing I was the 1st to post anything about it but now we are seeing other "reports" of it I'd say it is pretty valid.
I’m glad to know you at least believe your source, but I suspect there was some exaggeration. If “choked out” was nothing more that being grabbed by the scruff of the neck (or less) and redirected, then perhaps you can see our points about responsible reporting. Many would interpret that term in a much more violent way.

“Going after” the dad is ambiguous, too.

So yeah, there would seem to be at least some evidence of some sort of exchange, but details matter in conveying (or implying) the severity.
 
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My first thought was, "damn @86PSUPaul is really hitting the scouting trail hard". I was impressed that you were at the Luther Open taking notes on the Hawks. Now my bubble is burst.

That said, this thread is not a good look for us. If that crap really happened, it will be dealt with. If it didn't, ierwe will all wish that we didn't propagate Mineo rumors on this forum.
agree... some folks should judge themselves before others... especially our favorite athletes (wrestlers)
 
Nobody said they were gonna kill anyone. And I got this information from someone who was right there and heard everything. The guy who put out the article obviously took FB messages and forum posts and took them as fact and created a false story. Sad what people will do for attention
 
Well I'm 100% confident in the person who text me the information. And knowing I was the 1st to post anything about it but now we are seeing other "reports" of it I'd say it is pretty valid.
We can clear this up easily since we already know the hawk punishment for terroristic threats. Was he allowed to participate in the Luther Open medal ceremonies?
 
My first thought was, "damn @86PSUPaul is really hitting the scouting trail hard". I was impressed that you were at the Luther Open taking notes on the Hawks. Now my bubble is burst.

That said, this thread is not a good look for us. If that crap really happened, it will be dealt with. If it didn't, we will all wish that we didn't propagate Mineo rumors on this forum.
My intent wasn't to judge anyone, but to show two different posts with different "facts". The story is out there, I just wanted to show different viewpoints, not propagate Mineo rumors. But I also feel this is a bit more than a rumor, many have confirmed at least something happened.

Plus I posted someone's comment downplaying the situation.
 
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My intent wasn't to judge anyone, but to show two different posts with different "facts". The story is out there, I just wanted to show different viewpoints, not propagate Mineo rumors. But I also feel this is a bit more than a rumor, many have confirmed at least something happened.

Plus I posted someone's comment downplaying the situation.
I think most of us not only understood the content of your post but also the take-home message from it — i.e., there is contradictory hearsay flying about, so be careful with choosing what to believe.
 
I think most of us not only understood the content of your post but also the take-home message from it — i.e., there is contradictory hearsay flying about, so be careful with choosing what to believe.
Rashomon, DeSanto edition. I agree that it was illustrative of just how little you can trust even supposed firsthand accounts but especially when narrators are coming to the table with preconceived biases, and with DeSanto it's hard for anyone not to have one. Consequently, he'll rarely get the same benefit of the doubt afforded others in scenarios with multiple plausible interpretations. Part of me thinks it's on him to grasp that calculus by now and proceed accordingly, but I'm also extremely wary of stories like this one. The two FB takes would've been more easily understood for what they were if set off with punctuation.
 
I think most of us not only understood the content of your post but also the take-home message from it — i.e., there is contradictory hearsay flying about, so be careful with choosing what to believe.
Maybe not everyone. Bushwood is applying to re-up his Project Literacy scholarship, after accusing others of crap reading comprehension.
 
Nobody said they were gonna kill anyone. And I got this information from someone who was right there and heard everything. The guy who put out the article obviously took FB messages and forum posts and took them as fact and created a false story. Sad what people will do for attention

So what happened? Did Brands grab him by the neck/throat and pull him out of the stands?
 
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My intent wasn't to judge anyone, but to show two different posts with different "facts". The story is out there, I just wanted to show different viewpoints, not propagate Mineo rumors. But I also feel this is a bit more than a rumor, many have confirmed at least something happened.

Plus I posted someone's comment downplaying the situation.
I wasn't casting any blame towards you for sure. I really thought you were there.
I understand that @Str8DBLz was quoting something he heard outside the Mineo FB page. But I think at this point, we should all let this play out before any of us make judgements. Currently the only one carrying the ball is Mineo. I think it would be wise not to play catch with him.
 
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Nobody said they were gonna kill anyone. And I got this information from someone who was right there and heard everything. The guy who put out the article obviously took FB messages and forum posts and took them as fact and created a false story. Sad what people will do for attention
The article was taken to "private".

While journalism is dead....independent "journalists" are all over.

In this Era of new found interdum we need to proceed with major caution with these type of "stories".

Austin may soon be an iowa alum but he remains a pa boy. If there are issues with him the brands need the heat in my mind.

Heck even Spencer is losing some of the nice-nice and making that turn to the Terry dark side.
 
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Rashomon, DeSanto edition. I agree that it was illustrative of just how little you can trust even supposed firsthand accounts but especially when narrators are coming to the table with preconceived biases, and with DeSanto it's hard for anyone not to have one. Consequently, he'll rarely get the same benefit of the doubt afforded others in scenarios with multiple plausible interpretations. Part of me thinks it's on him to grasp that calculus by now and proceed accordingly, but I'm also extremely wary of stories like this one. The two FB takes would've been more easily understood for what they were if set off with punctuation.
As my attorney wife always says, "the most unreliable evidence is an eyewitness account."
 
My intent wasn't to judge anyone, but to show two different posts with different "facts". The story is out there, I just wanted to show different viewpoints, not propagate Mineo rumors. But I also feel this is a bit more than a rumor, many have confirmed at least something happened.

Plus I posted someone's comment downplaying the situation.
I wasn't referring to you... those who ran with it :)
 
The article was taken to "private".

While journalism is dead....independent "journalists" are all over.

In this Era of new found interdum we need to proceed with major caution with these type of "stories".

Austin may soon be an iowa alum but he remains a pa boy. If there are issues with him the brands need the heat in my mind.

Heck even Spencer is losing some of the nice-nice and making that turn to the Terry dark side.
Austin had issues long before he came to Iowa. Fair? Not sure how the Brands need all the heat from that.

Also how is Spencer losing his nice and going to the "dark" side? Did he do something I missed? Just asking, We don't need a hashtag tirade.
 
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