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Would the Selection Committee actually take 2 SEC teams and ND?

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That would shut out three of the P-5 Conferences.

All of tonight's top 4 teams could VERY easily win out before the SEC Championship game. The TV ratings for the Playoffs would absolutely suck. Especially if Georgia played Alabama in a rematch.

I just can't see the Committee taking two from one Conference. Especially if ND is in the top four.
 
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That would shut out three of the P-5 Conferences.

All of tonight's top 4 teams could VERY easily win out before the SEC Championship game. The TV ratings for the Playoffs would absolutely suck. Especially if Georgia played Alabama in a rematch.

I just can't see the Committee taking two from one Conference. Especially if ND is in the top four.
Absolutely. The SEC is a sexy Conference and Notre Dame is a sexy team. No “eye chart” is even necessary. (tic)
 
No. ND not playing in a conference will hurt them. Mark it down. (At least I hope)
 
That would shut out three of the P-5 Conferences.

All of tonight's top 4 teams could VERY easily win out before the SEC Championship game. The TV ratings for the Playoffs would absolutely suck. Especially if Georgia played Alabama in a rematch.

I just can't see the Committee taking two from one Conference. Especially if ND is in the top four.

They could take two from two conferences, potentially.

The CFP charter has nothing to do with TV ratings (at least in theory, and by their, well, charter). They are supposed to pick who they they think are the 4 best teams.

Inthe case of the current top 4 -- obviously they cannot all win out as GA & BAMA play each other. If it's very close, why wouldn't fans want to see a rematch? They instantly demand it in boxing, MMA, and wish for it in most other sports!
 
That would shut out three of the P-5 Conferences.

All of tonight's top 4 teams could VERY easily win out before the SEC Championship game. The TV ratings for the Playoffs would absolutely suck. Especially if Georgia played Alabama in a rematch.

I just can't see the Committee taking two from one Conference. Especially if ND is in the top four.

Don't see the committee taking a team that loses its final game. So the only scenario would be if Bama loses to Auburn, doesn't make the SEC Championship, and then UGa wins it and Bama comes along for the ride. If Auburn or Bama wins the championship, the SEC only has one team in.
 
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No. ND not playing in a conference will hurt them. Mark it down. (At least I hope)

IIRC, didn't the Big 12 champ (TCU?) go from top 4 to out of the playoffs during the course of championship weekend the one year? I do think the committee takes special consideration for teams that play an extra (theoretically competitive) game and win a championship. Of course, that doesn't bode well for us either.
 
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I'm sorry if everyone has to play in so does ND, half a conference doesn't count. This isn't the sixties.
 
In terms of Georgia/Bama, it's important to note that the playoff committee has not really shown the same "poll inertia" you see with the regular polls. They've been willing to drastically move around teams based on each's week's results. I think it's possible that Georgia and Alabama could both make it, but it would depend on the circumstances of the other teams and I do think that losing the final/championship game would hurt the loser quite a bit compared to other teams with a similar record.
 
That would shut out three of the P-5 Conferences.

All of tonight's top 4 teams could VERY easily win out before the SEC Championship game. The TV ratings for the Playoffs would absolutely suck. Especially if Georgia played Alabama in a rematch.

I just can't see the Committee taking two from one Conference. Especially if ND is in the top four.

Would it be better to take just one from each P-5 conference and leave out two conference champs?

I think there should be an 8 team playoff. The P-5 conference winners would all receive automatic bids and there would be 3 at large bids. The first round of 4 games would be on New Years Day (Orange, Rose, Sugar Fiesta). There would only be 16 other bowls and those games would be played before New Years Day. That means top 40 teams only. 6 win teams shouldn't be going to a bowl. The semi finals would be the following week and the championship game the week after that.
 
Would it be better to take just one from each P-5 conference and leave out two conference champs?

I think there should be an 8 team playoff. The P-5 conference winners would all receive automatic bids and there would be 3 at large bids. The first round of 4 games would be on New Years Day (Orange, Rose, Sugar Fiesta). There would only be 12 other bowls and those games would be played before New Years Day. That means top 40 teams only. 6 win teams shouldn't be going to a bowl. The semi finals would be the following week and the championship game the week after that.
You would need 16 not 12 to get to 40 teams
 
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That would shut out three of the P-5 Conferences.

All of tonight's top 4 teams could VERY easily win out before the SEC Championship game. The TV ratings for the Playoffs would absolutely suck. Especially if Georgia played Alabama in a rematch.

I just can't see the Committee taking two from one Conference. Especially if ND is in the top four.
Yes, they would. If ND wins out, they would have the best resume of any one loss. And if Georgia and Alabama are 1 v 2 in the SEC title game, then as long as it is not a blowout, they would not drop out of top 4.
 
They could take two from two conferences, potentially.

The CFP charter has nothing to do with TV ratings (at least in theory, and by their, well, charter). They are supposed to pick who they they think are the 4 best teams.

Inthe case of the current top 4 -- obviously they cannot all win out as GA & BAMA play each other. If it's very close, why wouldn't fans want to see a rematch? They instantly demand it in boxing, MMA, and wish for it in most other sports!

Why wouldn't fans want to see a rematch???? Alabama vs LSU. One of the worst rated Championship Games in History, and the nucleus of our current four team Playoff. Heck, even I didn't watch it. Could have cared less.
 
I think the SEC runner up is on outside if the top 6 win out. No reason to not let that SEC title game be a de facto playoff quarterfinal game.

Assumption here would be OSU, Oklahoma and Clemson win out and look impressive doing so.

Notre Dame is a wild card because they'll lack the 13th data point. I could very easily see them getting jumped by at least 2 conference champs that win out.
 
Yes, they would. If ND wins out, they would have the best resume of any one loss. And if Georgia and Alabama are 1 v 2 in the SEC title game, then as long as it is not a blowout, they would not drop out of top 4.

And half the Country wouldn't watch. After the Alabama/LSU atrocity, the Committee doesn't want another replay of that garbage.

My guess is SEC number 2 would be toast. ND would have single handedly knocked out the PAC 12 and ACC if Clemson loses another game, which they will.
 
That would shut out three of the P-5 Conferences.

All of tonight's top 4 teams could VERY easily win out before the SEC Championship game. The TV ratings for the Playoffs would absolutely suck. Especially if Georgia played Alabama in a rematch.

I just can't see the Committee taking two from one Conference. Especially if ND is in the top four.
No...in my opinion no conference is getting 2 as the money needs to be spread around to keep the commissioners happy with this format.
 
And half the Country wouldn't watch. After the Alabama/LSU atrocity, the Committee doesn't want another replay of that garbage.

My guess is SEC number 2 would be toast. ND would have single handedly knocked out the PAC 12 and ACC if Clemson loses another game, which they will.
Do you think no one would watch an OSU PSU rematch? I think they would, but what do I know
I would love to see bama GA PSU OSU - right now I think these are the 4 best teams
 
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No...in my opinion no conference is getting 2 as the money needs to be spread around to keep the commissioners happy with this format.

Money is that big a deal. Conference gets $6mm for each team in the play-off semis. Consolation is $4mm for teams selected to the remaining New Year's Six. The big money, estimated at $54mm per, goes to the conferences regardless of how many teams they have in the semis.
 
No. ND not playing in a conference will hurt them. Mark it down. (At least I hope)

If ND gets hosed by not being in a conference maybe they finally join a conference. How about the B1G... put them in the west division.
 
A one loss Notre Dame drags a one loss (to Alabama) UGA, straight into the playoff along with Alabama as the SEC champ. Three of the four playoff slots are filled that quickly. The committee has wet panties at the very thought.
 
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Do you think no one would watch an OSU PSU rematch? I think they would, but what do I know
I would love to see bama GA PSU OSU - right now I think these are the 4 best teams

As a playoff semi, a PSU-OSU matchup would be a ratings bow-wow.
 
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No. ND not playing in a conference will hurt them. Mark it down. (At least I hope)
They don't care about conferences. They have a select few favorites that they're going to squeeze in by whatever metric they need to invent just to make it happen. Conferences are dead...they mean absolutely nothing.
 
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A one loss Notre Dame drags a one loss (to Alabama) UGA, straight into the playoff along with Alabama as the SEC champ. Three of the four playoff slots are filled that quickly. The committee has wet panties at the very thought.

Not if Bama stomps UGa.
 
If the season ended today ---- sure, the committee would take the 4 teams currently in the Top 5.

(1) UGA has the win over Notre Dame, and they're undefeated.

(2) Alabama looks like a machine.

(3) Notre Dame has multiple quality wins, each by multiple scores.

(4) Clemson is the shakiest of the 4 but they have multiple quality wins themselves.

However ..........

THE SEASON DOES NOT END TODAY.
 
You are missing my point. A one loss Notre Dame gets in, because, they are Notre Dame. UGA beat Notre Dame so a one loss UGA must get a bid, because Notre Dame is getting a bid. 3 of the 4 bids are eaten up that quickly. Root for a Notre Dame loss somewhere along the line.
 
If the season ended today ---- sure, the committee would take the 4 teams currently in the Top 5.

(1) UGA has the win over Notre Dame, and they're undefeated.

(2) Alabama looks like a machine.

(3) Notre Dame has multiple quality wins, each by multiple scores.

(4) Clemson is the shakiest of the 4 but they have multiple quality wins themselves.

However ..........

THE SEASON DOES NOT END TODAY.

No, if the season ended today, the teams ranked 1-4 by the committee would be in. One again, you prove that you're not as smart as you think you are, buttwipe.
 
They could take two from two conferences, potentially.

The CFP charter has nothing to do with TV ratings (at least in theory, and by their, well, charter). They are supposed to pick who they they think are the 4 best teams.

Inthe case of the current top 4 -- obviously they cannot all win out as GA & BAMA play each other. If it's very close, why wouldn't fans want to see a rematch? They instantly demand it in boxing, MMA, and wish for it in most other sports!
I would agree if the SEC was the best conference, but it's not. It might even be the worst conference...so why send two teams from one of the worst conferences?
 
No, if the season ended today, the teams ranked 1-4 by the committee would be in. One again, you prove that you're not as smart as you think you are, buttwipe.

Pretty sure that's what I said ----- but thank you (AS ALWAYS) for your comment Art. It's truly an HONOR to hear from you. Highlight of my day.
 
You are missing my point. A one loss Notre Dame gets in, because, they are Notre Dame. UGA beat Notre Dame so a one loss UGA must get a bid, because Notre Dame is getting a bid. 3 of the 4 bids are eaten up that quickly. Root for a Notre Dame loss somewhere along the line.

And you overlook the fact that three months will have elapsed between the time that ND and UGa played and selections are made. The committee could easily rationalize that ND improved considerably since then and UGa not so much, particularly if Bama beats the Dawgs handily.
 
Yes, they would. If ND wins out, they would have the best resume of any one loss. And if Georgia and Alabama are 1 v 2 in the SEC title game, then as long as it is not a blowout, they would not drop out of top 4.

I just don't think the SEC title loser could make it over a 1 loss Oklahoma, OSU, or Clemson.
 
Pretty sure that's what I said ----- but thank you (AS ALWAYS) for your comment Art. It's truly an HONOR to hear from you. Highlight of my day.

No, asshole, you said "If the season ended today ---- sure, the committee would take the 4 teams currently in the Top 5." There is so much wrong with that statement and you're too stupid to realize it.
 
I just don't think the SEC title loser could make it over a 1 loss Oklahoma, OSU, or Clemson.

Could if the game were close, field goal or less, played even throughout and decided late. I say could, but I'm inclined to agree with you.
 
Would it be better to take just one from each P-5 conference and leave out two conference champs?

I think there should be an 8 team playoff. The P-5 conference winners would all receive automatic bids and there would be 3 at large bids. The first round of 4 games would be on New Years Day (Orange, Rose, Sugar Fiesta). There would only be 16 other bowls and those games would be played before New Years Day. That means top 40 teams only. 6 win teams shouldn't be going to a bowl. The semi finals would be the following week and the championship game the week after that.
I am with you bdgan. I think it will eventually lead to this (not for a few years though). There's too much sponsorship dollars at stake with ALL these bowl games. This year's Playoff rankings are actually spot on, IMO. Talent-wise, Alabama is the best. But as far as playing the best competition this year, Georgia, N Dame and Clemson ARE tops. Georgia still has 3 tough games left, plus they play GaTech whose style can give teams problems. NDame has 2 tough games, both winnable though (I think Miami AND Stanford are overrated). Clemson has 3 tough games left (FSU is still very talented and more than capable of an upset at any time). Alabama still has at least 2 tough games (LSU, Auburn and possibly Georgia in the SEC Championship!). Penn State should easily run over the rest of their schedule, but I don't think there's a way Penn State can get back in unfortunately because of the teams they've played -- they have a combined record of 27-22-- unless Ohio State wins out and everyone else above totally craps out. But if Oklahoma wins out and PSU wins out they're ahead of PSU because of the win over Ohio State unfortunately.
 
I am with you bdgan. I think it will eventually lead to this (not for a few years though). There's too much sponsorship dollars at stake with ALL these bowl games. This year's Playoff rankings are actually spot on, IMO. Talent-wise, Alabama is the best. But as far as playing the best competition this year, Georgia, N Dame and Clemson ARE tops. Georgia still has 3 tough games left, plus they play GaTech whose style can give teams problems. NDame has 2 tough games, both winnable though (I think Miami AND Stanford are overrated). Clemson has 3 tough games left (FSU is still very talented and more than capable of an upset at any time). Alabama still has at least 2 tough games (LSU, Auburn and possibly Georgia in the SEC Championship!). Penn State should easily run over the rest of their schedule, but I don't think there's a way Penn State can get back in unfortunately because of the teams they've played -- they have a combined record of 27-22-- unless Ohio State wins out and everyone else above totally craps out. But if Oklahoma wins out and PSU wins out they're ahead of PSU because of the win over Ohio State unfortunately.

What will be interesting is if Notre Dame loses, Washington loses, Oklahoma loses, Okie State loses, TCU loses, and Ohio State loses in the regular season, but beats Wisconsin, would they jump us over Ohio State? Of course they wouldn't, but it would be worth it to hear the excuses as to how this year is different than last year, even though the scenarios between PSU and OSU are exactly the same.
 
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