I think Schultz still has that leash around his neck from when Zeke pulled him off the mat as he was about to face Kerk a few yrs backSchultz stayed.
The others .... they all hate tough sunshine.
I think Schultz still has that leash around his neck from when Zeke pulled him off the mat as he was about to face Kerk a few yrs backSchultz stayed.
The others .... they all hate tough sunshine.
being a generalist here... not to say some like it!Schultz stayed.
The others .... they all hate tough sunshine.
It isn't a criticism. We have no idea if the kids were still hurt or healthy and protecting seeds. When we claim we know we look as foolish as Ferentz. Therefore my desire to just make it a blanket thing. If you don't show up with your best. Oh well, other teams will.We should kinda treat each as a distinct case. I can see having some spillover for same staff, different time. But no reason to criticize one staff or wrestler for another’s actions.
I already said what I think. If they are hurt they should not wrestle, but I also think we should move on from wrestling them in the future, with the exception of a promised return visit.So what do you think they should have done with their two best guys who were hurt? What is the solution here?
Have fun watching no duals in the future.I already said what I think. If they are hurt they should not wrestle, but I also think we should move on from wrestling them in the future, with the exception of a promised return visit.
PAgeologist, your Cresson Mountain is killing me. Most likely scrubbing the mission to Wyoming match as your Mountain is more fit for the Ice-Capades tomorrow.
I don't know why was running the clock and the score card but man were they bad!Thanks. I also missed how Luke got two pints there as well. But we’ll take it
not complaining but what are then chances you 2 best are hurt?With Volk and Novak out, Hill was easily the best remaining starter.
This is gonna be a shutout -- in takedowns.
100% when one has been injured for some time and the other injury defaulted one week ago.not complaining but what are then chances you 2 best are hurt?
Actually said this to my friend after Sunday regarding the Buffalo match. I think Cael is understanding to a point. Every bit of the schedule is done for a reason and the last match is supposed to be a light day compared to the B10 schedule but PSU wants their guys against your top guysNot necessarily doing that. I get athletes get hurt and miss competitive moments. I also get i am being a hard ass about it and my opinion isn't shared by many others (possibly any others). I just don't like the roll over and happily take my beating matches, and not coming with their best guys (even through no fault of their own) just adds to the frustration. I think Stutzman did this with a couple Buffalo kids the one year and it bugged me then.
Even Kyle Todrank?Not necessarily doing that. I get athletes get hurt and miss competitive moments. I also get i am being a hard ass about it and my opinion isn't shared by many others (possibly any others). I just don't like the roll over and happily take my beating matches, and not coming with their best guys (even through no fault of their own) just adds to the frustration. I think Stutzman did this with a couple Buffalo kids the one year and it bugged me then.
I already said what I think. If they are hurt they should not wrestle, but I also think we should move on from wrestling them in the future, with the exception of a promised return visit.
I'm sorry Jason Nolf injured his knee against Rutgers, but we will no longer schedule you.I guess it’s a good thing other schools don’t hold us to this same standard. We would’ve run out of opponents to wrestle years ago.
Yeah it makes no sense that either one of these kids would duck a match like this100% when one has been injured for some time and the other injury defaulted one week ago.
Well, it appears this is exactly what Wyoming did. It's just that Wyoming doesn't have a strong team, particularly without Volk and Novak. And the injuries to those two guys appear to be legit.Narrow-minded is an OK description.
I just don't care how narrow-minded it appears, or is. Show up with your best team and try to compete.
It's nice that they do the good will tour, but it would be nice to see a couple kids get a challenge.
Nope. Just venting.Well, it appears this is exactly what Wyoming did. It's just that Wyoming doesn't have a strong team, particularly without Volk and Novak. And the injuries to those two guys appear to be legit.
It's unfortunate that Volk and Novak couldn't compete, but it's almost like you're complaining that the PSU lineup is too good.
The curse - it’s over!In previous years many were frustrated that we didn’t have a strong 125 and that we weren’t shutting teams out.
Now we have studs in all 10 weights… So if our only complaint this year is that we don’t have solid competition, that’s not so bad.
How do you know this? Do you have personal knowledge of what teams Penn State has tried to schedule? The easiest way to duck is to not schedule Penn State.we don't reach out and schedule anybody who would truly appreciate having a crack at the king.
Big Kyle Todrank fan hereEven Kyle Todrank?
I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that. I watched that match again. It was cool seeing Nolf not so pleased and exacting a little punishment.Big Kyle Todrank fan here
I give Todrank a lot of credit in that match. Everything was very sportsmanlike.I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that. I watched that match again. It was cool seeing Nolf not so pleased and exacting a little punishment.
Since I said we don't schedule anybody, the personal knowledge is obtained by looking at the schedule. So yeah,I know.How do you know this? Do you have personal knowledge of what teams Penn State has tried to schedule? The easiest way to duck is to not schedule Penn State.
The biggest different over the last 15 years is the early season schedule, Here is the writeup on the 2010-11 schedule:Since I said we don't schedule anybody, the personal knowledge is obtained by looking at the schedule. So yeah,I know.
It's all volume management.The biggest different over the last 15 years is the early season schedule, Here is the writeup on the 2010-11 schedule:
https://gantnews.com/2010/06/24/penn-state-wrestling-announces-2010-11-schedule/#google_vignette
Before January 7th, PSU had already wrestled,
Bloomsburg
Lehigh
Sprawl and Brawl Duals
Nittany Lion Open
Lock Haven
Ohio State
Southern Scuffle
Virginia Duals
I miss those days.
The 2024-25 schedule has three dual meets instead of four during that time period, and two tournaments instead of four.
I understand the why of the new schedule but I still yearn for more wrestling action tbh.
of course, but one can always yearn for more.It's all volume management.
It is a combination.The biggest different over the last 15 years is the early season schedule, Here is the writeup on the 2010-11 schedule:
https://gantnews.com/2010/06/24/penn-state-wrestling-announces-2010-11-schedule/#google_vignette
Before January 7th, PSU had already wrestled,
Bloomsburg
Lehigh
Sprawl and Brawl Duals
Nittany Lion Open
Lock Haven
Ohio State
Southern Scuffle
Virginia Duals
I miss those days.
The 2024-25 schedule has three dual meets instead of four during that time period, and two tournaments instead of four.
I understand the why of the new schedule but I still yearn for more wrestling action tbh.
Actually, the match with Wyoming is more like a shearing. F'ing autocorrect gotcha.For shear entertainment reasons schedule a dual with NCST or ISU instead of Wyoming.
BingoIt is a combination.
Volume management as noted by BnB is big part of it.
At the beginning it was about getting a look at and a feel for as much of the competition as possible so attack plans could be devised for post season success. Now the look at others' elite talent isn't necessary due to the talent in the room. In the PSU room one can practice with world class compeition on a daily basis and in a week's time never duplicate a practice partner.
I think most people understand the reasons. I, as a fan, want to be entertained. For shear entertainment reasons schedule a dual with NCST or ISU instead of Wyoming.
Very funny. Shearing …. we have a large flock/herd of sheep on our farm and it’s hard work. Interesting kinda-sorta-fact: according to the AI program I use (not Google because I abhor ads) the highest ever college D-1 score is 54 [54 points, achieved by Oklahoma State against Northern Colorado in 2020]. Not sure this is correct, but, if true we tied a record this past Sunday.Actually, the match with Wyoming is more like a shearing. F'ing autocorrect gotcha.
I have a feeling it's is also for some easy rpi points to help keep injuries down.Just a thought or 2.
1. I wish they would compete against a Cornell, NCST, VATech, ISU or OkieSt instead of Wyoming or something similar.
2. If they are going to compete against a Wyoming or something similar and that team can't field their best lineup they should be eliminated from future schedule considerations.
This team is so good they won't be challenged in any match. The final score won't be as ugly as against WY but it will indicate dominance.I thought the Wyoming match was/is perfect: Going to get challenged at a few weights, going to have to break a sweat at a few weights, probably huge favorites at a few weights.
Injuries changed the first part but that's no one's fault. There were ranked on ranked that took place Saturday just the same, and for better or worse, our guys are unicorns and turn most of those into bloodbaths as well.
Exactly.This team is so good they won't be challenged in any match. The final score won't be as ugly as against WY but it will indicate dominance.