2 point try..................what's the analytics on this as CJF says
- By j-buff
- Penn State Football
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I thought it was a horrible decision to go for 2 almost as deep ball that got picked
47-20? I guess she’s been on the receiving end of a few leg cradles. No wonder she’s so proud.
Oregon did have a PF penalty not called on the first drive of the second half that would have put us in the red zone looking to tie. Instead we got nothing out of the drive.PSU makes too many blunders in big games and should have run the ball more vs. the Ducks. Blame the officials all you want but it was 28-10 in the second quarter. How many mistakes did Oregon make? No turnovers and 1 major penalty. PSU had 2 TO’s, 4 major penalties, and a missed FG. You can’t do that vs. #1!
Or at the least…..doesn’t know when to go for 2.I don’t know if there is a way to research this, but PSU under Franklin HAS to have the worst 2 pt conversion percentage in the entire NCAA.
I hate this league with a passion. If this isn't the game that shows there should not be "league officials" instead of the nfl model. I don't know what is. Just like the Iowa game long ago when Hoe basically forced college football to start using instant replay. This stinking league can't even get that right. Then, the officials let Oregon talk them into the "fair catch signal" when nobody in the booth thought so. Ridiculous, and Kraft should be preparing his arguments for the league office.I'm trying to be fair, so I discount SOME of the non-calls against Oregon for holding, I guess I can discount the non-call on the late hit(s) on Allar and I also think the DPI against Wallace late was an OK non-call (while the defender was grabbing Wallace's collar, he wasn't obviously pulling on him), but there were some REALLY egregious calls and non-calls in this game and even if you were an Oregon fan, you'd have to acknowledge them.
Hopefully this game showed the team what playing like #1 is like. Sometimes a challenge can be good, better to learn lessons in a meaningless CCG than the first round of the playoffs. We still need to tighten up and stop with stupid penalties (doesn’t excuse the refs for their added jobbing though), CJF needs to stop mishandling critical game moments, and the team needs tight play and no turnovers. Oregon may have benefited from some calls, but they also didn’t throw picks or fumble.We'll be on the road today but wanted to get a comment in.
I posted here last week but didn't want to make a big deal of the fact that there was an argument to be made we'd be better off if Ohio State had beaten Michigan and gotten the high honor of appearing in a 13th game.
I mean, we had a great 11-1 regular season...looking at a likely #6 playoff seed. Everyone feeling pretty good.
Then we end up having to play a largely meaningless CCG as an underdog. We get the predictable hose job from league refs. Mistakes. Recriminations. Complaints. All-around sour taste in the mouth. We go into the playoffs on a down note while at best we looking at a #6 seed...possibly 7 or even 8. (I do think the home game is safe.)
Who needs it.
Just get me away from this conference's refs and let us play on an even field.
Alabama should be OUTEven though our loss was just as close as anybody else’s a championship game, I think SMU and Penn State get penalized for their championship game losses while other schools do not. Based on what I saw in championship games today the 12 teams that would have been in should all still be in. The only team that played in a championship game today that should be out of the top 12 as Iowa State.
Amazingly, I forgot about the OPI by Ferguson because I was more fixated on the fact that Oregon should have been driven back into 1st or 2nd and long to start that drive by some EGREGIOUS no-calls. Again, on the first play, Abdul was held by the damn facemask!!While the holding by the Oregon OL was constant and blatant, I'll give them those non-calls without complaining (to be fair and so nobody can claim I'm a homer). Let's called it the "let them play" rule. But there were multiple calls and non-calls which not only made no sense, they would appear to prove that "the fix was in" and I've NEVER suggested something like that publicly on a forum. I'm not sure about the personal foul on the kickoff because I didn't see the replay, but was there ANYTHING there to call? I think the most blatant and obvious call was the Evans catch that mysteriously was called back AFTER it was called a catch on the field and spotted as a first down with no apparent review. How/why can they arbitrarily pick up the ball and march backwards and call it an incomplete pass when the call on the field was a legal catch (and the replays obviously confirmed that it WAS a legal catch)? Then you have the 49 yard touchdown where Gabriel was close to the LOS (I personally don't think he crossed it, but don't know what the rule is when you're in the air when you release the ball and your feet land past the LOS), but you CLEARLY had an OL downfield and there is clearly a line judge who is watching it. I don't recall down and distance on that play and perhaps Oregon would have still scored, but an obvious penalty and loss of down at midfield would have clearly benefitted PSU. Then you had the VERY obvious push off by their Tight end on 4th and 2. Obviously if it was called, that could have changed the outcome. Finally, you have the "fair catch". The replay seems to show the PSU receiver making an adjustment to the ball in the air and he waves his hand to keep his balance. His hand never went above the shoulder pads and even if it was close, the play should have been called dead and PSU should have been flagged for trying to return the ball. Obviously neither of those things happened. You have one ref who is watching the receiver and has been tasked with determining if a fair catch was called and he never whistled the play dead, nor did any of the other officials until after he was 30 yards downfield and out of bounds. They called that back because the Oregon HC complained and for no other reason at all. You also have the dead ball call where Allar was getting mugged well after several whistles were blown. On this one, again, I'll give you the "let them play" rule, but nobody would have thought a personal foul call there was unjustified. And even with all of these patently obvious calls/non-calls, I don't remember one very obvious penalty that PSU got away with or even one ticky tacky call that went against Oregon.
Anyone who claims that PSU benefitted as much as Oregon from the officiating has their heads up their butts and like many other posters on this thread, I don't complain about these things week in and week out.
Number 1 seems a certainly.If you're a Penn State fan you can take this loss one of two ways.
Way 1) Penn State can't still win the big games, there's no hope in the playoffs
Way 2) Penn State went toe-to-toe with perhaps the national championship favorite and if the offense shows up like they did tonight, they can beat anyone.
Interested to see how the reaction is split.