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What to expect from Wisconsin

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tboyer said:
One thing you can say about them is they've played a tougher schedule than PSU
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They played Bama. Our best opponent is probably Illinois. Otherwise, we've both played USC. Not sure where you got they lost to LSU though.

tboyer said:
All in all I would guess a pretty similar game to Illinois. Tougher in that it will be an away game, but Illinois may have better athletes in a few places and a very good QB.
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Wisky is definitely a weaker team than Illinois. This being a road trip for us is the only advantage I see for them. The middle and lower Big 10 is a mess. Wisky shutdown NW, who thumped Maryland, who upset USC, who beat Wisky. Good luck making projections off that mess.
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Did anyone else see the not reviewable call get reviewed in the Texas/Georgia game.

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psu00 said:
It’s a weird case. I think the original call was wrong but they did huddle up and then announce the penalty. The crowd melted down as the replay was shown in the stadium and they began throwing water bottles on to the field. During the delay to clean it up the officials huddled up again and suddenly changed the call.

I think, in the end, the correct call was made so there’s no bitching about how it changed the outcome of the game, (which Texas fans would be clinging to today as why they lost had it not been reversed).

However, the way the officials handled this was very wrong. If there were doubts about the call they should have been made in the first huddle before the penalty was announced. Once it’s announced, it’s too late to change your mind.

They basically showed that they’d be influenced by the crowd and the precedent is now set (in the SEC at least) that if the crowd does a mini riot the SEC officials will rethink the call.
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100% agree. The officials stood there and looked at the play on the video board. They were influenced. The proper call was made in the end. The process was flawed.
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What to expect from Wisconsin

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Help me out here if you know anything about the Wisconsin players and matchups.

One thing you can say about them is they've played a tougher schedule than PSU. They've lost to the good teams, beaten the bad teams. They may have played their best game of the season handling NW but NW doesn't have much going on this year. Blew out Rutgers but the bottom has dropped out for RU so that may not mean much. Beaten soundly by USC -- USC outscored them 28-0 in the 2nd half (game was at USC). Lost to Alabama.

Passing yards per completion, PSU ranks 12th, WI 68th, but they have played better teams so that may not mean much.
Scoring defense, WI ranks 18th in the country. That may mean something. IL ranks 22nd and that's probably the best defense PSU has seen. (PSU ranks 9th by the way, but again, hasn't played the kind of teams Wisconsin has played). PSU's 10th in Rushing D, Wisconsin 61st, again see schedule.

Sacks allowed, PSU ranks 16th, WI 30th. Rushing offense, PSU 25th, Wisconsin 35. Turnover margin, Wisky ranks 101 bc they've lost 7 fumbles and 5 Ints. (PSU is middle of the pack in TO margin). But you could turn that around to mean, maybe Wisky would have won a couple more games if they hadn't fumbled so much. Still, I bet PSU is emphasizing forcing fumbles this week.

Team tackles for loss: PSU is 30th, Wisky only 120th. So they do not have a D-line that gets a lot of penetration and/or not a lot of blitzing. That may be style of play if they're playing a relatively passive BBDB kind of scheme. Still, that looks like one potential area of opportunity for PSU.

I really don't know what the WI players to watch are. Reportedly a good secondary, great safety (though they only rank 106th in interceptions -- PSU is only 69th), good running backs. Their QB looked good against Rutgers but he was under no pressure, so who knows.

All in all I would guess a pretty similar game to Illinois. Tougher in that it will be an away game, but Illinois may have better athletes in a few places and a very good QB. PSU has done well in recent years against Wisconsin -- they've usually won with speed and explosive plays. But this year, with this offensive line and Kotelnicki's running schemes, they might be able to play bully ball a little bit too.
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Did anyone else see the not reviewable call get reviewed in the Texas/Georgia game.

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OKLionFan said:
www.on3.com

David Pollack calls out officials on overturned pass interference call, Texas fans throwing objects on field

David Pollack called out officials following an overturned pass interference following Texas fans throwing debris on the field.
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The official SEC position is that the officials overturned the original call after review. I think they let the crowd influence the decision. The initial call was terribly wrong, but they have set a very bad precedent IMO.
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After review? There's no review on that.
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‘Abandon Harris’ movement expands into swing states, calls VP a ‘cease-fire teaser’

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I thought the Abandon Harris movement was just a play on words. It isn't. It's a thing.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/oct/18/abandon-harris-movement-expands-into-swing-states-/

A coalition of Muslim and Arab American leaders has expanded its movement to the swing states of Wisconsin and Georgia to keep Vice President Kamala Harris from winning the presidency, saying she is a “pro-genocide candidate.”

The group, which operates as “Abandon Harris,” announced the push into the battleground states on Friday. It also plans an extensive effort to steer voters away from Ms. Harris and toward Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate whom Abandon Harris has endorsed.

Hassan Abdel Salam, an Abandon Harris spokesman, said the group cannot support Ms. Harris because she has not aggressively pushed for a permanent cease-fire in the Gaza Strip and rejected the idea of a full arms embargo to Israel.

He also accused Ms. Harris of “teasing” the potential of a cease-fire to appeal to Muslim and Arab American voters while doing little to stop the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Mr. Salam said the group’s “destiny” is to ensure Ms. Harris loses in swing states.

“We have become familiar with the way in which the president and vice president double-talk to our community by making vague allusions of ending the genocidal war while permitting the state of Israel to continue their attacks on innocent people on the verge of disintegration,” Mr. Salam told The Washington Times.

“The vice president engages in ‘cease-fire teasing’ — a common practice that began with [President Biden] — by claiming that a cease-fire is on the horizon while children, women, and men are in flames, burning before our eyes,” he said.

The Abandon Harris movement sought a meeting earlier this year with the vice president, but her campaign rejected the sit-down.
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Did anyone else see the not reviewable call get reviewed in the Texas/Georgia game.

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OKLionFan said:
It may not have been an official review, but any time there’s a penalty the officials discuss, and then the referee (white hat) announces the penalty. Every official has weighed in at that point. That’s what happened at :53. The only thing left to do is spot the ball and signal ready for play and watching it live, that’s what they appeared to be doing when the first water bottle hit. Any discussion after that, regardless of what you call it is an after the fact review. Pass interference is not reviewable.
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So, we disagree on how it's being defined but agree about the issue with the actions providing time for that to happen
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Did anyone else see the not reviewable call get reviewed in the Texas/Georgia game.

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LandoComando said:
They were kind of dealing with the fans throwing things on the field. We agree the fans acting horrible allowed time for them to discuss but I don't know why you're saying it was reviewed.
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It may not have been an official review, but any time there’s a penalty the officials discuss, and then the referee (white hat) announces the penalty. Every official has weighed in at that point. That’s what happened at :53. The only thing left to do is spot the ball and signal ready for play and watching it live, that’s what they appeared to be doing when the first water bottle hit. Any discussion after that, regardless of what you call it is an after the fact review. Pass interference is not reviewable.
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