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Lets Talk Big 10 Expansion

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LongJakk said:
I think proportional payouts will come along with the next expansion plays. Not just for the newbies, but for all teams. I just don't see OSU, UM, PSU, USC et al accepting the same payouts as NW, indy, Purdue et al for too much longer. They need to pay out based upon viewership numbers, which is also closely related to longterm success.
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Doubt that will happen as it will just exacerbate the competitive unbalance.

The Premier League is cutting down on teams owned by wealthy sovereign funds and the like to buy unlimited players because viewers start to lose interest when the same 1-2 teams keep winning.

More likely is that in the future, teams in the PO will get a larger share of the PO revenue (so more like the NFL model).

As for expansion, seems likely that it will be FSU and a partner; the B1G will hold at 20 unless things come to fore which pushes the Domers to join a conference.
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OT: Memorial Day weekend movie recommendation

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Jerry said:
It was right around the time of Vietnam that the "smart people" created a system, and it still exists today, where it is not they or their kids or friends who pay the price for the catastrophic mistakes you mention.

I graduated high school at age 17 in 1972 by which time our ground involvement was pretty much over, but I nevertheless asked my Dad to sign the papers to allow me to enlist in the Marines. A former Marine himself with a gift for cutting through bullshit, he said, son, I'm not signing you up for a war nobody wants to win...go to college.

I took his advice but joined up four years later...MOS 2641...voice intercept operator...Russian language. Never heard a shot fired in anger during my 3-year tour but did get to know a few Marine combat vets of Vietnam. They fought as well as any men ever in the history of this country but afterward got no parades...no thanks...no understanding of what had happened or why. However, to this day I love those guys and am proud to consider them brothers.
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Wow, I graduated at 17 in 1978 and parents had to sign for me to go to the Naval Academy. Last minute, I got cold feet regarding the Academy and accepted NROTC scholarship to PSU. Most action I ever saw was war games at sea and shadowing Soviet vessels.

Much respect for those guys that fought despite the lack of political will to see it through once they got started.
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On Memorial Day remember those that gave their lives

GregInPitt
Have close friends that lost their only son to a roadside bomb in Afghanistan. They just returned from attending a service in Alaska where their son's Rangers outfit is headquartered. I believe their 7th such event attended there. My friend said he's not sure his wife can get through another one, although he is impressed by the respect and politeness the current soldiers exhibit along with all the work they put in to put on the events of the 3 days they are there.

All the cryers in this country should be required to spend 4 years in the Rangers or Marines. It might make them appreciate the costs of freedom......
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OT: Memorial Day weekend movie recommendation

GregInPitt
Just finished watching Go For Broke, about Japanese Americans fighting in Italy and France. Recorded it on TCM, along with about 10 other great movies about the brave men who gave us and defended the freedoms we enjoy and take forgranted too often in these days we live in. Sadly, Memorial Day makes me wonder how so many in this country abuse the freedoms they have and seek to undermine the freedoms themselves. Surely we need some new leaders that have the guts to stick up to the groups who seem to be growing that seek to undermine our freedoms.
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OT: Memorial Day weekend movie recommendation

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KCLion said:
Agreed! I was in tears for quite a bit of that production. And much like my recent hosting of several fraternity brothers at the WW1 museum during the National tournament, I was disgusted at how supposedly smart people would walk themselves right into catastrophic wars.

Approx 10 years too young for Vietnam, but know many who said they came back changed forever.
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It was right around the time of Vietnam that the "smart people" created a system, and it still exists today, where it is not they or their kids or friends who pay the price for the catastrophic mistakes you mention.

I graduated high school at age 17 in 1972 by which time our ground involvement was pretty much over, but I nevertheless asked my Dad to sign the papers to allow me to enlist in the Marines. A former Marine himself with a gift for cutting through bullshit, he said, son, I'm not signing you up for a war nobody wants to win...go to college.

I took his advice but joined up four years later...MOS 2641...voice intercept operator...Russian language. Never heard a shot fired in anger during my 3-year tour but did get to know a few Marine combat vets of Vietnam. They fought as well as any men ever in the history of this country but afterward got no parades...no thanks...no understanding of what had happened or why. However, to this day I love those guys and am proud to consider them brothers.
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OT: Tobaccos, Coffees, & Libations

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Mat Burn said:
Well I learned something, but how do the cigars pass customs?
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The key word in your quote is "discretely". Most sellers ship discrete. Add in a little luck, and you're home free. I've placed dozens of online orders and they all made it to my mailbox in under a month. Once they arrive, toss them in a humidor to acclimate for a few weeks and then you're off to the races.
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