2 weeks from tomorrow. We find out?
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Thanks, great input. The betting line caught my attention too.
West Virginia is a good team and will be boosted by a full house of crazy Mountaineer fans.
But we're not worried: Lando says the game is a lay-up.
I wonder if he’s calling for WVU to win 3 games again this year like he did last year after we beat them….and then stick with it all year long. You can’t fix stupid.
You still can't accurately state what I said last year but I've accepted your stupidity
My recollection is that you said (in effect) that West Virginia sucked, that they were more likely to lose 5 of their first 6 games than to win 8 over the course of the season, and that their head coach was sure to be fired before the 2024 season.
None of these predictions aged well. In fact, West Virginia went on to win 9 games, including a blowout of Norh Carolina in their bowl game, and everyone in Morgantown seems high on Neal Brown whose job is not in jeopardy.
The point, Lando, is that you have a long track record of downgrading our opponents to make it seem like victories over them are meaningless. And you've started off this year in the same vein.
Screw the FPI. We have to beat West Virginia on the field. The reality is they're a good team this year just like they were a good team last year...and this is a challenging road game to start the season.
I was going to reply ‘Hope Franklin is reading this!’ 😹
See the top part here is accurate but then you somehow decided to count a bowl victory and you're acting as though 8 wins with their schedule was impressesive. Who was their best win last year?
Neal Brown is still on the hot seat and, no, not everyone in Morgantown has changed their mind based on a mediocre season.
I'm not downgrading our opponents. I'm accepting us for what we are. FPI matters. It tells the whole story here. WVU is a mid tier, subpar Big XII team (Like last year when they lost to the only team in the top of the Big XII they played) while we're a top 8 team projected to win 11 games.
Like last year, if we okay our C game we win. If we okay our best game we dominate even if they play their best. If we lose, like when any elite team loses to a lesser team, it says more about us than them.
You are ready to accept our program as where it's at and desperately want to make others out to be better than they are trying to give us better wins instead of simply acknowledging we're beating everyone we should
Again, at 8-4 who was WVU's best win last year?
Yikes ... I didn't know you had this obsession with being wrong since, at least, last year ... so I did a quick search ...
WVU moves to 4-1 with road win @TCU
Gee, I guess they're a little better than someone claimed.
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You were absolutely DESTROYED in that thread (and others before and after).
That you keep persisting in talking about WVU as if you know anything after egg after egg after egg kept getting splattered all over your face last year ...
Well, you're just a glutton for punishment. A negative attention troll whore.
Look at you owning your old screennameYikes ... I didn't know you had this obsession with being wrong since, at least, last year ... so I did a quick search ...
WVU moves to 4-1 with road win @TCU
Gee, I guess they're a little better than someone claimed.
You were absolutely DESTROYED in that thread (and others before and after).
That you keep persisting in talking about WVU as if you know anything after egg after egg after egg kept getting splattered all over your face last year ...
Well, you're just a glutton for punishment. A negative attention troll whore.
Nothing in there destroyed me
Wait, wut? My old screenname? LOL .. oh, joy ... tell me who you now think I was?
I want to see you continue on your roll of being wrong ...
No, sparky ... I literally wasn't familiar with your past nonsense because I didn't follow this board much in the past, so I used the search function, typing in "WVU" by LandoCommando to see what everyone was referencing. And it was brutal for you.
"I obvious"? Who is that? Come on, kid. Tell us.
And it was BRUTAL. Still is. It was brutal when I just knew about your rantings and ravings this year ... but after seeing last year's shenanigans. It's BRUTAL.
We all know who you were--it's in countless threads
Not brutal--who was WVU's best win last year?
Come on ... tell us, according to your powers of deduction, who I was in that thread.
Granted, I've been no one else but PurposePitch since I joined in January of 2023 ... but I want to see where your failed powers of deduction have led you ...
BRU. TAL. You were so wrong, but rather than learn your lesson, you only admitted you were superficially wrong, but kept on with your failed argument.
Winning 9 games (contrary to your prediction) as a P4 conference member is the mark of a good team by any measure. Whether such a season could be considered successful would depend on expectations and potential coming in.
Given that the Mountaineers had been picked to finish last in the B-12 before the 2023 season, their 9 wins greatly exceeded the predictions of the "experts," which is why Neal Brown's contract was extended through 2027.
Yeah, some fans are still not convinced, but there's a lot of excitement in the air in Morgantown, and besides, you'll never please every fan regardless. The point is, no, Neal Brown is not on the hot seat...or else his contract would not have been extended...nor was he fired as you also predicted.
I see this as a challenging game for various reasons. I think we'll win, but it wouldn't be a surprise if it were competitive the whole way. Then again, it also wouldn't be a shock if we were to end up pulling away. One thing for sure: going in there with your "lay-up" attitude would be a recipe for disaster.
By the way, a lot of money has been coming in on West Virginia, which is why the line has moved downward...now in the range of 8.5. Granted, this factor is no more meaningful in deciding the outcome than your FPI, but it does suggest that most people see this game as anything but a lay-up.
Finally, you're wrong about my attitude. I've never been either a cheerleader or a nay-sayer. I don't have to pump up West Virginia's credentials. Their record last year, their talent this year, and the circumstances surrounding this game are more than enough to understand that a victory next Saturday would count as a good win against a good team.
8 wins and it's not a measure of a good team. Did Maye play in the bowl game? Of course not, them beating UNC meant nothing--nothing us losing our bowl game meant nothing. Again--what was their best win? Answer the question...
What team doesn't have "excitement" heading into a new season? Usually its misguided.
It's not a challenging game--see last year--if we show up and play our C game we win
That's saying betters believe WVU can cover--they aren't putting it on the money line. We could win by 3 or 4 but we win this game
If you believe I'm wrong about your attitude (outlook) answer my question--who was their best win last year? Or--better yet--who did they beat on our level that's causing you any concern
We are expected to win next Saturday--and the season will determine if it was a decent win, a good win or a great win or just a win over a mid-tier Big XII team that means nothing other than it's a win.
You all think way too many teams are "good"--there's only about 15-20 good teams each year. Watch them last year against Ok State who was destroyed by South Alabama. Just watch instead of looking at a record.
9 wins. What happened happened.
And stop with these arbitrary attempts to pick apart, and build up, certain teams. "How'd they do against Team X? What was their best win?" and on and on. Last year you thought they were a crap team who couldn't win even a handful of games. You didn't say they'd win a lot of games but they'd be against crap teams. You change your supporting evidence to fit a preexisting narrative. Suddenly FPI is controlling. Until it isn't.
And, yeah, if we win by 3 or 4 points, it was DEFINITELY a challenging game.
You are just arguing for attention at this point.
8 wins
Those things matter
FPI has been controlling since it existed
All I've said is we win--I don't care if it's by 1-3--look at our "close" games last year and who was calm and who was freaking out
9 wins. What happened happened.
2023 Football Schedule - West Virginia University Athletics
The official 2023 Football schedule for the West Virginia University Mountaineers
wvusports.com
2023 Football Schedule
Season Records
- Overall
9-4 - Overall PCT
.692 - Conf
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FPI’s accuracy
Over the last 10 seasons, the FPI favorite has won 75 percent of FBS-versus-FBS games, which is comparable to the Vegas closing line.
Yet, allegedly, no one cares about the Vegas line and the FPI is controlling.
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You claimed it won't be a challenging game, and then claimed you don't care if we win by 3-5 points ... now 1-3 points.
Again, you've either flatlined, or you're just arguing for attention ... because a 5 point game is MOST DEFINITELY a challenging game.
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I'm still waiting for that logical syllogism, kid ... and now for the big reveal of who you mistakenly think I was in that thread I linked to.
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8 wins9 wins. What happened happened.
2023 Football Schedule - West Virginia University Athletics
The official 2023 Football schedule for the West Virginia University Mountaineers
2023 Football Schedule
Season Records
- Overall
9-4- Overall PCT
.692- Conf
--------------------------------------------------
FPI’s accuracy
Over the last 10 seasons, the FPI favorite has won 75 percent of FBS-versus-FBS games, which is comparable to the Vegas closing line.
Yet, allegedly, no one cares about the Vegas line and the FPI is controlling.
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You claimed it won't be a challenging game, and then claimed you don't care if we win by 3-5 points ... now 1-3 points.
Again, you've either flatlined, or you're just arguing for attention ... because a 5 point game is MOST DEFINITELY a challenging game.
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I'm still waiting for that logical syllogism, kid ... and now for the big reveal of who you mistakenly think I was in that post I linked to.
Gallagher reportedly was a top target for PSU the whole cycle, even after he committed to WVU. Seemed to be PSU's top target at slot WR. But with the lack of success that PSU has had lately in identifying ready to play WR talent it doesn't surprise us that Gallagher is not lighting it up at WR for WVU.......
I think I'm making progress with Lando. He's dialing down the "lay-up" talk and is now content to predict a simple W...maybe even close: "We could win by 3 or 4 but we win this game."
Meanwhile, in the Florida State/Georgia Tech result, we see the value of the FPI indicator. It's an old story: the games are won by the players on the field, not by statisticians with their paper computations.
#LandoLogic from this thread:
1. You can win by 1 in a non-competitive game.
2. FPI matters, Vegas spreads do not, even though the creators and administrators of FPI claim it has an equal rate of predictive success as Vegas spreads.
3. FPI is the all-telling oracle, and counts bowl wins and losses, but bowl wins and losses don't count
4. Whatever happened happened, and you can't change that ... unless you don't want it to have happened. Then it didn't (like wins and losses).
5. He knows exactly who I am from a previous thread, but he's not telling ... and I was never in that thread.
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I've said all along by 1 or 30 all that matters is the win
FSU is not on our level with FPI...we're significantly better than them. FSU would have been significantly worse if they weren't in the ACC.
People still fail to comprehend the expectations for this team this year especially when looking at WVU.
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