He would be a great backup and practice partner. I don't see how he could win a starting spot unless he can cut to 157.For what it's worth.... Hearing there has been definite interest and discussion between Max Dean and Penn State. Also, that Gabe Dean is retiring.
Good case-making = Good Internetting, thank you!Definitely smoke to Real Woods to Oklahoma State instead of Michigan especially now that he has his Stanford degree.
Verk could be the face of Citadel Wrestling to be honest. Wrestling SoCon competition could allow him to get a better seed and favorable draw at NCAAs. That has to be appealing because tbh, he isn't transferring to a school that has trophy aspirations. You have to remember, not every program operates under the same standards. Sending NQs to NCAAs is special for a lot of programs. Want to know how many Citadel had last year? 1 and he went 0-2.
They have 4 AA's in team history, could you imagine if Verk can be the 5th? He has 2 years of eligibility left. Say what you want about his style but Verk hasn't had a chance to wrestle NCAAs yet even. He might just be a damn good tournament wrestler (he won Cadet worlds for a reason)
For what it’s worth, Jefe, Alex was interviewed by MLive earlier this week and he said he’d be headed to Penn State in June. The guy headed to the OTC is probably the secret blue chipper none of know about (I too recall the Cael interview) 😄
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I could see him challenge Beard for a starting spot at 197, but I think Max is short for 197.He would be a great backup and practice partner. I don't see how he could win a starting spot unless he can cut to 157.
Who wouldn't trade a Cornell degree for one from Penn State? :-0For what it's worth.... Hearing there has been definite interest and discussion between Max Dean and Penn State. Also, that Gabe Dean is retiring.
Who wouldn't trade a Cornell degree for one from Penn State? :-0
The Cornell vs. PSU Academics take is especially misapplied here, with Dean supposedly leaning toward Michigan State -- which is not as strong academically as Penn State.Your Ivies/Cornellian takes have been extremely well-put, but they're really misapplied here.
It's been well-sourced that Max Dean is seeking a non-Ivy program b/c he feels he can't trust that his competition opportunities at Nationals will be guaranteed / not taken away from him, like they were this past year. Add to that the now widely-understood lack of Grad Student Athlete competition availability
An academic superiority play here is a big miss.
Lighten up, fellas. I understand why Max is leaving Cornell, at least as far as Rob Koll has said. It would appear Max went to Cornell for the wrestling program primarily, so whatever his diploma has in funny letters would seem to be less important.Your Ivies/Cornellian takes have been extremely well-put, but they're really misapplied here.
It's been well-sourced that Max Dean is seeking a non-Ivy program b/c he feels he can't trust that his competition opportunities at Nationals will be guaranteed / not taken away from him, like they were this past year. Add to that the now widely-understood lack of Grad Student Athlete competition availability
An academic superiority play here is a big miss.
I've seen nothing on this other than what Rob Koll has said and a cryptic content-free tweet from Gabe Dean. What's your source for Max leaning towards the Spartans? Did he confuse them with Spartan Combat?The Cornell vs. PSU Academics take is especially misapplied here, with Dean supposedly leaning toward Michigan State -- which is not as strong academically as Penn State.
So your saying he might fit in at Ok state?He would be a great backup and practice partner. I don't see how he could win a starting spot unless he can cut to 157.
Willie's podcast yesterday.I've seen nothing on this other than what Rob Koll has said and a cryptic content-free tweet from Gabe Dean. What's your source for Max leaning towards the Spartans? Did he confuse them with Spartan Combat?
Who wouldn't trade a Cornell degree for one from Penn State? :-0
Degree matters less the networking. PSU has a much broader networkWho wouldn't trade a Cornell degree for one from Penn State? :-0
Beard's gas tank improved dramatically this past season. I would expect it to become larger this season. The bigger Beard's tank gets, the better his positioning and attacks will become.My mind would be blown if Max Dean is considering Penn State. I don't think he could beat Michael or Aaron but it's possible him at 184 and AB at 197 next year (if we start that process early) could be more points than Aaron and Michael.
197 is very volatile, I can see a scenario where Michael places Top 3 next year or get bounced R16. I'd feel better about Aaron (if he adds the right weight) because well ... he's just a lot more consistent than Michael.
That being said, once again, I'd be shocked if he was considering us.
Agreed ... man I feel if he had beaten Amine at Big Tens .... his season finishes way differently. Get over the mental hump of beating a truly elite guy. He looked virtually immobile Day 2 of Big Tens. As shown (and as we knew), his top game is insane. He always seems to be able to crank at least 4 nearfall points the first period if he gets the first takedown.Beard's gas tank improved dramatically this past season. I would expect it to become larger this season. The bigger Beard's tank gets, the better his positioning and attacks will become.
Beard will be just fine.
Don't be too proud of the Ivy League terror. The ability of a Cornell degree is insignificant next to the power of Cael Sanderson memories and a team NCAA title and a better chance at an individual NCAA title.Who wouldn't trade a Cornell degree for one from Penn State? :-0
Who wouldn't trade a Cornell degree for one from Penn State? :-0
That is an awesome gif reply
I've read this theory on tHR, so consider it plausible.Even if Max doesn't come to PSU, just Cael bringing him onto campus could drive up the % scholarship offer for Dean required by other programs.
I'm not sure this has to be "a plan." One of the top wrestlers in the country is interested in coming to PSU - you host him, it's that simple. You don't say "no, we're not interested." It may work out smoothly, lineup-wise. If not, everyone who signs on here knows the deal. There are great wrestlers coming in every year so odds are you may have to beat one to win a spot.It's possible Cael thinks Dean at 184 and AB at 197 gets more points than AB at 184 and Beard at 197. I'd guess that is the most likely plan also.
Good point worth emphasizing. Given all the unknown variables, the parties can't actually know whether there's a fit until they meet and talk. The parties might even have preconceived assumptions about what will and won't work, just as fans online do, but for an ex NCAA finalist who might improve your team, you'd probably want to meet them, even if you assumed going in that it probably wouldn't work. Most of the real world sales meetings people take they take despite strongly assuming that it won't amount to anything.I'm not sure this has to be "a plan." One of the top wrestlers in the country is interested in coming to PSU - you host him,
It's also possible that Cael tells Dean: Brooks is our 184, you compete for the 197 spot.It's possible Cael thinks Dean at 184 and AB at 197 gets more points than AB at 184 and Beard at 197. I'd guess that is the most likely plan also.
@js8793 is an Iowa fan, so his GIF reply is a great reaction to Cael and his strategic movesTo what?
No better place for a Myles Martin killaThey have talked. I posted a while back that PSU had dinner with Max and Gabe Dean. There was interest on both sides getting Max to Penn State. Gabe is retiring.
#beaverwrestling? No,no,not gonna say it.Gas Tank Gary efficiently gets to keep all his OSU gear relevant.
You good?In all seriousness, I don't get this at all unless Brooks can't make 184. I haven't been impressed with Dean at all the last 2 years. I think he's a mid to low AA at 184 and a fringe AA at 197, and frankly wouldn't be surprised if he couldn't beat Beard who was coming on late.
He had a miracle win against MM, but people seem to forget he had to get completely bailed out by the officials against....Cash Wilcke 2 rounds earlier.
The biggest benefit to landing him for PSU would be keeping him away from Michigan. I don't think he scores more than a couple more points than Beard if any at all. And I think Beard's long term upside is much better.