2021 World Championships
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I think we all agree--even the people who'd gladly replace folkstyle w/ free, that these types of matches stink. But they do happen in both styles, and IMO, much less frequently in free.
No need to bash Tsirtsis now.
In folkstyle if its 1-1 then both kids at least earned an escape. In freestyle when its 1-1 the referee basically chooses passivity as he likes and last guy to get the point wins in a 1-1 match. That is ridiculous to me. In the case of the Snyder match the Iran guy did nothing the whole match and gets two points for nothing. Sorry you are not going to change my mind, it is a terrible system.
Also i like both styles. I just get frustrated with those type of matches when passivity basically determines the winner.
Agree.
My main point is I just do not care for the passivity system. Just my opinion.
That's fair. I don't particularly love it, but as I have learned more about how they call passivity, I've learned to be more OK w/ it. The disucssion in this thread about a collar tie snap-down for instance. I don't like it, because that's how our guys like to create action and leverage their conditioning advantage--but at least there seems to be a reasoning behind it (breaking the hold is negative wrestling).
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Both styles could use some fine tuning.. I like having both styles..
Great scrappy bronze match between Lehr (Germany) and the Russian. Germany wins! Seeing Russia lose feels almost as good as seeing USA win.
Agree. I'll say this though, if folk went away and every level went to free, I'm not sure if I'd be as much a fan of the sport. And I more than likely wouldnt be on the buy/sell thread groveling for tickets.
Lehr would make a nice 125 for us this year. Cael ought to talk to him.😉
as far as free vs folk i like them both equally , maybe the only thing we can all agree on is that it doesn't appear that folk hinders free given all the success the US has had over the last several years
Wrestlers have to hold center & have to engage / keep contact. The rules are clear.
Besides, in folkstyle, how many matches have been influenced (ruined) by the inconsistent whims of a referee calling stalling ?
Jesus H - half of the posts in PBP threads of PSU duals are fans complaining about the ref & how / when / where stalling is called.
The thing you hate about freestyle happens MUCH MORE often in folkstyle.
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I get it. You don’t like passivity. That’s great. Your opinion.
But your argument is hot garbage & full of holes.
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The Bayramov guy who beat Green is the same guy who Keegan was losing to but came back and decked in the quarters. Shows just how good Keegan is going to be!
That guy has crazy leg defense. James was living on his legs, and only got the 1 4pt TD off the blast double.
I get it, you hate people ragging on the freestyle rules. I not gonna try and argue my point anymore with you, it is pointless. You win man.
Penn State's own Thomas Gilman with the gold medal!
There should be a rule that if you're going to jump onto a thread to bash freestyle while a freestyle tournament is going on, you must also contribute an original thought instead of the same tired bleating.
Hell yeah!!! Turned Flo in exactly perfect timing to see the match! Gilman- NLWC: World Champ! He made. a great decision.
I wonder how many US world champs there have been who never won an NCAA title. Can't be too many.
So happy for Gilman, that guy kept suffering heartbreak after heartbreak, keep living the life, kept improving, matured emotionally and it all came together. Great job...
Continuing to jump levels thanks in part to Cody. Amazing!
You get a like for "bleating" ......The rest of post is needed and spot-on....but mostly for "bleating"
Thank god the office is mostly empty otherwise not sure i would get away with sitting at my desk watching wrestling
HR will say it was a weak bracket without Spencer!
I swear, Thomas is one of my favorite wrestlers now. I didn’t hate the heel version as much as many of you, but the person he’s become: he’s an inspiration and a role model and I’d be happy my kids followed how he seems to be today.
Bring it! Pity he didn’t want that smoke today though.*Uguev
The thing you complain about (ref inconsistency) happens MUCH MORE with stalling than passivity.
Agree to disagree.
If Thomas ends up beating Spencer for the team spot they’ll begin asking “Why didn’t our coaches let them wrestle together when TG was in IC.???”
HR barely has any chatter on 2021 Worlds.
A few of their brainiacs even suggested all winners be given *asterisks* because some OLY medalists chose not to compete.
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