2024 NCAA's - Match/discussion threads (merged)
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Penn State is kicking ass.
Penn State pair begins pursuit of 4th NCAA wrestling titles with easy wins
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Carter Starocci thought it a little odd that the selection committee gave him the No. 9 seed for the NCAA wrestling championships. So did most people. After all, Penn State’s star at 174 pounds has won three straight national championships. Now, after advancing to the...
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Topside, I’m antsy about 3, confident in 5. Below deck, I like both chances.
Ah, hell, I’ll go out on a limb and say we’ll still be leading after session 3
Ah, hell, I’ll go out on a limb and say we’ll still be leading after session 3
Braeden Davis is wrestling with a hook for a hand because of a grevious injury in the 1st round
Change the rule and make it stalling. It would stop instantly. The guy on knees can not score unless other wrestler initiates.
I actually think if someone had the guts, they should come in like double leg but catch the guy around his chest. Brown would have stopped it by planting the guy.
Good morning Penn State Wrestling Fans!
Feel free to use this thread for any and all of today's match discussions and PBP's. As always, if you are replying to another post, please remember to use the Quote function. And please try to avoid those totally vague "Wow"'s, "Holy Crap"'s and "WTF"'s type posts - provide some friggin' context, for cryin' out loud! ;-)
When:
Friday, March 22 at 12 pm EDT (Session 3 - Quarterfinals & Consolations), and at 8 pm (Session 4 - Championship Semifinals & Round of 12).
Where:
@ Kansas City (T-Mobile Center)
TV:
12 p.m., March 22 – Quarterfinals & Consolations (Session 3) on ESPNU and ESPN+
8 p.m., March 22 – Championship Semifinals & Round of 12 (Session 4) on ESPN and ESPN+
PRO TIP: If you haven't spent the $10 for ESPN+ yet, you may want to do that (and try to remember to do it before Session 1 next year as well).
ESPN+ has coverage of each mat for those that are subscribers. Here is the link to those individual mats and MATCAST streams: https://www.espn.com/espnplus/sched...84bd2e7f/channel/ESPN_PLUS/startDate/20240322
Radio:
Byers will have the radio call of the action and PBP's. The radio show is supposed to start at 11:40 am EDT, and the later session coverage supposedly starts at 7:40 pm. You can access the LionVision audio at: https://gopsusports.com/watch/?Live=2145&sport=30&type=Live, or via the Penn State Athletics app.
If LionVision ain't working, maybe this link will work: https://www.audacy.com/stations/bigfootcountrylegends.
PBP:
Hopefully, someone will step up and provide some PBP again (BIG THANKS to @SlipperyPete12 and @mcpat for their efforts yesterday!). As always, please remember to provide the score at the end of the match. Thanks!
Mat Assignments:
Mat assignments can be found here: https://bubbaland.net/wrestling/NCAA_Wrestling_Championships_2024.htm (be sure to select the correct tab at the bottom of the page) and also https://twitter.com/pennstateWREST. Thanks to everyone who posts the Mat Assignments in the thread.
Team Scores:
The best source for team scoring throughout the tournament is the Penn State Wrestling Club's website. Their link for live team scoring is: https://pennstatewrestlingclub.org/. Learn it, Know it, Live it. And don't forget it!
Brackets:
Here are the updated brackets thru last night (in PDF): https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/Session 2 Updated Brackets.pdf
Lastly, our guy's matches in Session 3:
125: #1 B.Davis vs. #8 R.Figueroa (ASU)
Consi 133: #10 A.Nagao vs. #24 J.Chlebove (ASU)
141: #2 B.Bartlett vs. #26 V.Vombaur (MINN)
Consi 149: #7 T.Kasak vs. #9 E.Fernandez (COR)
157: #1 L.Haines vs. #8 P.Robb (NEB)
165: #2 M.Mesenbrink vs. #10 M.Amine (MICH)
174: #9 C.Starocci vs. #1 M.Lewis (VT)
184: #6 B.Truax vs. #3 D.Plott (OKST)
197: #1 A.Brooks vs. #8 S.Buchanan (OU)
285: #1 G.Kerkvliet vs. #9 N.Feldman (OHST)
Feel free to use this thread for any and all of today's match discussions and PBP's. As always, if you are replying to another post, please remember to use the Quote function. And please try to avoid those totally vague "Wow"'s, "Holy Crap"'s and "WTF"'s type posts - provide some friggin' context, for cryin' out loud! ;-)
When:
Friday, March 22 at 12 pm EDT (Session 3 - Quarterfinals & Consolations), and at 8 pm (Session 4 - Championship Semifinals & Round of 12).
Where:
@ Kansas City (T-Mobile Center)
TV:
12 p.m., March 22 – Quarterfinals & Consolations (Session 3) on ESPNU and ESPN+
8 p.m., March 22 – Championship Semifinals & Round of 12 (Session 4) on ESPN and ESPN+
PRO TIP: If you haven't spent the $10 for ESPN+ yet, you may want to do that (and try to remember to do it before Session 1 next year as well).
ESPN+ has coverage of each mat for those that are subscribers. Here is the link to those individual mats and MATCAST streams: https://www.espn.com/espnplus/sched...84bd2e7f/channel/ESPN_PLUS/startDate/20240322
Radio:
Byers will have the radio call of the action and PBP's. The radio show is supposed to start at 11:40 am EDT, and the later session coverage supposedly starts at 7:40 pm. You can access the LionVision audio at: https://gopsusports.com/watch/?Live=2145&sport=30&type=Live, or via the Penn State Athletics app.
If LionVision ain't working, maybe this link will work: https://www.audacy.com/stations/bigfootcountrylegends.
PBP:
Hopefully, someone will step up and provide some PBP again (BIG THANKS to @SlipperyPete12 and @mcpat for their efforts yesterday!). As always, please remember to provide the score at the end of the match. Thanks!
Mat Assignments:
Mat assignments can be found here: https://bubbaland.net/wrestling/NCAA_Wrestling_Championships_2024.htm (be sure to select the correct tab at the bottom of the page) and also https://twitter.com/pennstateWREST. Thanks to everyone who posts the Mat Assignments in the thread.
Team Scores:
The best source for team scoring throughout the tournament is the Penn State Wrestling Club's website. Their link for live team scoring is: https://pennstatewrestlingclub.org/. Learn it, Know it, Live it. And don't forget it!
| Team Standings | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Team | Points | Maximum Potential Points | If Seeds Hold | # QF | # SF | # Cons 2 | # Cons 3 | # Cons 4 (Rd of 12) |
| Penn State | 34.5 | 275.5 | 150.5 | 8 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Iowa | 24.5 | 243 | 67 | 4 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 |
| Iowa State | 24.5 | 242.5 | 66 | 5 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 |
| Michigan | 22 | 240 | 57.5 | 5 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 |
| North Carolina State | 22 | 240 | 82.5 | 5 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 |
| Nebraska | 21 | 213.5 | 60.5 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Ohio State | 20.5 | 215 | 52.5 | 3 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 |
| Cornell | 18.5 | 213 | 59.5 | 3 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 |
| Virginia Tech | 17.5 | 236 | 52.5 | 4 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 |
| Missouri | 14 | 135 | 44 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
Brackets:
Here are the updated brackets thru last night (in PDF): https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/Session 2 Updated Brackets.pdf
Lastly, our guy's matches in Session 3:
125: #1 B.Davis vs. #8 R.Figueroa (ASU)
Consi 133: #10 A.Nagao vs. #24 J.Chlebove (ASU)
141: #2 B.Bartlett vs. #26 V.Vombaur (MINN)
Consi 149: #7 T.Kasak vs. #9 E.Fernandez (COR)
157: #1 L.Haines vs. #8 P.Robb (NEB)
165: #2 M.Mesenbrink vs. #10 M.Amine (MICH)
174: #9 C.Starocci vs. #1 M.Lewis (VT)
184: #6 B.Truax vs. #3 D.Plott (OKST)
197: #1 A.Brooks vs. #8 S.Buchanan (OU)
285: #1 G.Kerkvliet vs. #9 N.Feldman (OHST)
And I know people like to complain, but do we really need 50 comments about how bad the ESPN announcers are when there is a perfectly good alternative in JB? But I guess people are going to complain no matter what….
Also, after going to the All Star Classic and watching Carter dismantle Lewis I would never believe I would see this line now
174: #9 C.Starocci vs. #1 M.Lewis
174: #9 C.Starocci vs. #1 M.Lewis
Didn't Ramos squeak bye uninpressively
And we had to wait until Cael came along to capitalize on the gold mine in PA.
Tourney wrestling for a guy at 260+ is a different ordeal than it is for a guy at 1/2 that weight. This is Kirk’s 4th Nationals. Probably he knows how to manage his energy. Winning > Entertainment. Of course, we could devolve back to “dancing bears” and then every HWT match could be boring.
For those who choose to punish themselves by watching ESPNU, we don't need constant reminders of how persecuted you feel.
I used ESPN+ yesterday. Never thought about delaying a match when 2 guys were same time. I would stream the radio and delay the Roku about 12 seconds and the Ironhead audio would be sync to TV video.I watched every single PSU match from start to finish without a single glitch on ESPN+. When there are two PSU guys at the same time....I just pause one of them until the first one is done. Easy. Just 10.00.....although I sold a kidney so I can upgrade to the Disney package for 3.00 more
My only glitch was caused by Ironhead. I was listening for him to know if a second match was starting. He was doing the MM or Truax match and he says Starocci is wrestling and its 2nd period. It was actually 3rd period. WTF!! That's all I saw. Maybe I could of rewind that mat. Never thought about doing that .
Imar, it looks like Imar ate Imar.
Pretty sure there will be 2.
Nagao faces the winner of Bouzakis vs Cardinal if he gets past Chlebove. Kasak gets the winner of Rooks vs Solomon if he beats Fernandez.
You can shoot from a knee especially if the other wrestler doesn't watch their separation and doesn't lower their level. Nothing wrong with going to a knee to change levels and try to create an angle. But spending a prolonged period on a knee and doing it repeatedly such that you're spending the majority of Neutral wrestling time on a knee should be warned and called as stalling (i.e., Ref is permitted to tell wrestler that he has to be more active and if he goes to his knee again, he'll call stalling).
I got caught off guard with this one too. I was able to rewind the stream for his match.
I have to work on the sync with the video and Ironhead's audio that was a little frustrating yesterday. On my feed he was ahead of the video action around 10 seconds.
That was my delay time as well. I didn't bother trying to sync them since I was bouncing around so much between mat feeds.
Thanks.
He came down to the first row to cheer on Starocci like he knew him forever. A guy tried to make some small talk with him and he waved him off like he didn't want to be bothered.
Did you see the Fernandez match? He consistently backed up and I don't think there was a stall... Refs don't seem to be calling much stalling..
Not sure I agree with that, Spiedell, Koll, Lorenzo and Fitz consistently had PSU in the hunt at Nationals and produced a lot of AAs and Champs. It wasn't until Sunderland that the program took a huge dropoff Nationally. Fitz was coach when PSU began wrestling in B1G and he did quite well actually - if I remember correctly, they fired him because of some incidents involving wrestlers and they felt he did not run a tight enough ship in regards to his athletes behavior on campus.
And for those complaining about not seeing PSU wrestlers on the TV feeds, there is an equally simple and good solution in ESPN+. Which had its own dedicated thread on how to sign up. ESPN also keeps the streams up for a while so you can watch replays.
Great stuff, Jefe and thank you for that link, Bosox. PA dominating once again… Looks like Flo is using the “hometowns” metric so Bartlett to Tempe and Bouzakis to Tampa. Only discrepancies/additions are Griffin to Berwick, ME, Henson to Waynesburg, Ungar and Evan Maag (165) to Bethlehem (NDGP), Garrett Thompson (165) to Murraysville (Franklin Regional), Chlebove (133) to Northampton, and Maximus Hale (184) to West Chester (Downingtown West) for a total of 43 NQs for PA.For what it’s worth I came across this breakdown a few days back. Not sure what metric was used to do the categorization but it also lists last year’s totals as well.
2024 NCAA Wrestling Championship Qualifiers By State - FloWrestling
See how many wrestlers your state qualified for NCAAs!www.flowrestling.org
I have noted (and heard several people in my section complain audibly) that stalling for backing up to the edge is basically not being called whatsoever - to the extent that I wonder if there was some kind of meeting about allowing it prior to the tournament.
In unrelated news, Hidlay likes his chances against Brooks.
I live about an hour north of Boone and get down to see Appy two or three times each winter. Great little town, very sports oriented and good bars. SoCon wrestling can be surprisingly good at times.
yes, Illinois added Austin O'Connor to the staff this year, so maybe that's why Ed is gone, or vice versa.
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Question: was watching a match at the arena yesterday and on one particular match the ref required the wrestlers to be touching hands during every restart from the neutral standing position. Wasn’t sure if the all knowing board could explain this. I thought that it might be due to one of the wrestlers having a hearing issue, but it was a WAG on my part.
The complaint is about guys like Mason Beckman who drop to a knee from 25 ft away.
If you're disengaged from the opponent and drop to a knee, it's stalling.
Dammit, I missed a bunch. That should teach me to try it after midnight.
Other way around. Ed leaving opened up the position for O'Connor.
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